Moerman Liquidator

[kev]

Why the small squeegee though lol that door has got 14 inch written all over it

 

[Dave B]

Because i was playing around

I would normally do that with my 18"

 

[Dave B]

I get bored very easily and have to play around..can't do sitting on bum watching tv

Think i have aspergers as i show all the same traits as my son

 

[kev]

Cool dave

 

[Eric Gilliand]

View attachment 4100 Ok. Weekend away. Arrived home tonight. Easter Bunny had left me a present at my front door ... It's going to be a fun week

 

[Eric Gilliand]

Read this people... Black handle, 10" blade...no damned adjustment or 'phaffing' around. A couple of straight pulls on a steamy bathroom mirror to get the angle right and I was away. Couple of small hiccups on the turns and then a couple of goes later ...nailed. This is going to be a GREAT week..I will tighten the clips once I've played with the 14 and 18 but as I suspected the only issue with this channel is...the willingness of the user to adapt to the angle and the lighter pressure. As it stands? A winner...

 

[Eric Gilliand]

Have just finished playing with the 10" 14" and 18" on each of the two Moerman handles I received. Yes I've had to consciously change my hand angle ...a little bit... but apart from that all three lengths work exactly as publicised. Mine are from the first batch so I will squeeze the back of the clip in a touch but that is all, nothing more needs done. The dog-ear, on eyeballing it does look a touch more angled than I would normally have BUT because there is a touch of flex in the plastic, (unlike DIY dog formed with pliers on the metal channel) as long as you get the blade angle right, no problems. I will be trying them on an appropriately modded Wagtail PC and I'm pretty sure it will work fine, but note I will be modding the Wagtail to suit the Liquidator and NOT the Liquidator to suit the Wagtail handle. In closing. Clips fine (barring the one small highly recognised caveat) Channel fine, Rubber fine and handle fine. Get your adjusted technique right and all will be ...FINE. Stop Press...Have even pressed my trusty old Unger Ergotech handle into service...result...NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER...View attachment 4109

 

[boarcity]

its a gamechanger . 20 or 30 minutes timesaved each working day says it all to me.

looking closely at the channel profile and design of channel itself and clip design shows me that the designers at moerman are skilled

 

[Eric Gilliand]

So any one tried using it on a pole??Everyone's taking about how it goes by hand.

Anyone give some sort of review on how the Liquidator works on a pole.?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR9SGOkus-0[/media]

 

[Dave B]

I use it on a pole both 40 and 0° with no problems

 

[Dave B]

1st floor normal windows any size and above conservatory on ladder

 

[Smurf]

Well you are now officially a grand master window cleaner.... Who need a wfp /emoticons/biggrin.png

1st floor normal windows any size and above conservatory on ladder

 

[Smurf]

More to the point how many scrims are you now having to wash in an evening now the lads and yourself are using liquidator channels?

its a gamechanger . 20 or 30 minutes timesaved each working day says it all to me.looking closely at the channel profile and design of channel itself and clip design shows me that the designers at moerman are skilled

 

[Dave B]

I've been using the same 2 since Friday

If one gets damp it goes over the headrest to dry and i use the other 1

 

[boarcity]

More to the point how many scrims are you now having to wash in an evening now the lads and yourself are using liquidator channels?

defo less washing than before .

 

[James Allen]

Used one cloth all day today

 

[Dave B]

Used one cloth all day today

Only did 1 job though lol

 

[James Allen]

Only did 1 job though lol

Cheeky so and so

 

[Dave B]

 

[rugbywolf]

So now I have had a good few hours with the liquidators (10 & 14 inch) i thought i would post some observations that might help some. took me a while to get to used to it but now i think have a couple of techniques sussed.
MOVEMENT: clearly there has been a lot of thought gone into the design and these are precision tools, to me the liquidators are not that forgiving if you don't use the correct technique. I found that any movement that caused the blade or part of the blade to push across the glass rather than pull caused issues with either residue left or jumping. The main culprate was large or exaggerated fanning motions where you usually end up "steering" the blade in too tight a curve at the end of each fan. When turning too tight a curve you tend to pivot the blade on the glass and one end of the channel will travel across the glass in the correct direction (pulling) but the other will (push) in the wrong direction. By using shallower turns, avoiding dive bombing and not trying to turn the blade on the spot all helped reduce problems with jumping and residue being left on the middle of the glass.

PRESSURE: I found i had to use much less pressure on the blade against the glass. A fairly light pressure worked best and i expect this will have the added advantage of making rubbers last longer rather than my old modded Ungers that I had to press quite hard with in comparison. Also using a lighter pressure i was able to feel the blade against the window rubber so I knew if i was "drifting" over the rubber or off it altogether. out of interest my modded 14inch unger weights 205grams the 14 inch liquidator in an Eurotec handle come in at 143 grams, this weight difference was quite noticeable and the feeling of the blade on the glass and bumping the rubber was much "clearer" than with my Ungers.

CLIP MOD: I found the Polznblades mod of squeezing the end clips tighter to grip the rubber, made a significant improvement to the tools ability to perform with the tighter turns, i'm not going to order any more channels until Meorman release the updated version.

EYE FORWARD: This might sound an odd one but trust me it helped alot, i found that when i made conscious effort to look at the corner of the frame ahead of where i was running the squeegee tip to, rather than look at the tip of the squeegee itself, the accuracy of my eye hand coordination was much better, and the leading tip of channel followed the rubber seal perfectly.

sorry guys if ihave rambled on a bit, but maybe someone will find this useful. (better get the jacket potatoes int he oven now) cheers

I was interested in what you said about pressure. I hadn't thought about that much, but sounded like a good idea. So, today, my first day after altering the blue ends, it was working right, so I tried it. You have to be conscious of not putting pressure, but it did work. Next time I change rubbers I'm going to put in a soft (as I always use hard Ungers).

 

[kahoona]

I was interested in what you said about pressure. I hadn't thought about that much, but sounded like a good idea. So, today, my first day after altering the blue ends, it was working right, so I tried it. You have to be conscious of not putting pressure, but it did work. Next time I change rubbers I'm going to put in a soft (as I always use hard Ungers).

after using heavy old stainless steel channels I find these lightweight ali channels a delight to use, I can feel the edges and rubber seals much more precisely as i move the channel over the glass. to me thats a big bonus the liquidators have over other channels.