SLX or Extreme?

[peter rogers]

its twice the price but at end of day it must be better in some way its 200g lighter on 22ft

 

[Alex Gardiner]

@Alex Gardiner what do you think
difference in slx and extreme

The difference for me is that one of them makes me a better margin that the other /emoticons/smile.png - The SLX has better margin than the Xtreme poles, so I would rather sell £400 worth of SLX poles than £400 worth of Xtreme poles!

Leaving that to one side /emoticons/wink.png, I would say the difference comes down to working method and priorities.


Working Methods

Those who tend to care for their equipment well and have a more precise working method, usually will get the best out of an Xtreme and appreciate the difference. The SLX is better able to cope with being poorly maintained and bashed about in use. If you are in doubt about whether you would be able to care for the Xtreme, then stick with the SLX poles (below 30ft) as they are also very good.

Priorities

If you have any kind of injury or difficulty in pole work, then the Xtreme will often jump to the top of the list, regardless of height working at.

If you are working at height regularly then the larger Xtremes are a natural choice.

Some simply like knowing that they are working with the easiest possible pole available - the cost is often secondary.

From my own working perspective (just spent 5 hours out cleaning windows)

I think that the SLX poles are great to work with and provide a user and body friendly option. The advantage of full carbon can be readily felt in use - it is more than just the weight saving over a CLX.

However having worked now with Xtreme poles for 4 years, I simply would not want to work with any other pole for a full days work. The weight savings on the small sizes are fairly small, but it is more about the balance, rigidity and bounce suppression in use. The Xtreme25 I have in the van is now 4 years+ and has been used about 2-3 days a week over this time. It has been regularly cleaned and maintained and is well looked after, it has only had 1 replacement top section. The Xtreme 35 + 47 poles in the van are 3-4 years old and are in very good condition as they gets used less and have never needed any section replacing in this time. The 2x Xtreme18 poles get used the most and treated the worst and generally need a replacement section 1 or 2, once a year.

For me the main difference is that working with an Xtreme often makes me smile - the SLX less so /emoticons/smile.png

 

[Jake]

Good answers Alex, your a crafty salesman!

Send me a free Xtreme and I'll make my mind up /emoticons/wink.png

Until then, I just couldn't justify it,

You must laugh when you see fit and healthy window cleaners buy the Xtreme at 18' though...!

Gotta hand it to you, very good company and very helpful, but send me that Xtreme pole and I'll report back with gladness :thumbsup:

 

[Alien Human]

The difference for me is that one of them makes me a better margin that the other /emoticons/smile.png - The SLX has better margin than the Xtreme poles, so I would rather sell £400 worth of SLX poles than £400 worth of Xtreme poles!
Leaving that to one side /emoticons/wink.png, I would say the difference comes down to working method and priorities.


Working Methods

Those who tend to care for their equipment well and have a more precise working method, usually will get the best out of an Xtreme and appreciate the difference. The SLX is better able to cope with being poorly maintained and bashed about in use. If you are in doubt about whether you would be able to care for the Xtreme, then stick with the SLX poles (below 30ft) as they are also very good.

Priorities

If you have any kind of injury or difficultly in pole work, then the Xtreme will often jump to the top of list, regardless of height working at.

If you are working at height regularly then the larger Xtremes are a natural choice.

Some simply like knowing that they are working with the easiest possible pole available - the cost is often secondary.

From my own working perspective (just spent 5 hours out cleaning windows)

I think that the SLX poles are great to work with and provide a user and body friendly option. The advantage of full carbon can be readily felt in use - it is more than just the weight saving over a CLX.

However having worked now with Xtreme poles for 4 years, I simply would not want to work with any other pole for a full days work. The weight savings on the small sizes are fairly small, but it is more about the balance, rigidity and bounce suppression in use. The Xtreme25 I have in the van is now 4 years+ and has been used about 2-3 days a week over this time. It has been regularly cleaned and maintained and is well looked after, it has only had 1 replacement top section. The Xtreme 35 + 47 poles in the van are 3-4 years old and are in very good condition as they gets used less and have never needed any section replacing in this time. The 2x Xtreme18 poles get used the most and treated the worst and generally need a replacement section 1 or 2, once a year.

For me the main difference is that working with an Xtreme often makes me smile - the SLX less so /emoticons/smile.png

Nice one Alex - I didn't realise that you get out and clean windows as well.

 

[Alex Gardiner]

Good answers Alex, your a crafty salesman!
Send me a free Xtreme and I'll make my mind up /emoticons/wink.png

Until then, I just couldn't justify it,

You must laugh when you see fit and healthy window cleaners buy the Xtreme at 18' though...!

Gotta hand it to you, very good company and very helpful, but send me that Xtreme pole and I'll report back with gladness :thumbsup:

That ship has sailed now - no need for any trialling /emoticons/wink.png, but thanks for the offer. They have been out now for 4 years and are quite able to sell themselves if needed!

I never laugh at a window cleaner spending money with us /emoticons/smile.png. Usually there is a good reason that they have chosen the Xtreme or they are very experienced and know exactly what they want. Myself and the chap I was working with today were both using the Xtreme 18 poles for about 80% of the working day - no one was laughing at us (I hope) /emoticons/smile.png

For yourself it is obvious that a standard carbon pole fits what you need for your work - the majority of our clients would agree with you on this. The Xtreme is not the mainstream option.

 

[Alex Gardiner]

Nice one Alex - I didn't realise that you get out and clean windows as well.

Not as much as I used to - I still need to spend some time on the glass cleaning real clients windows just so that I can test and assess new equipment and prototypes. There is still no better way to assess something fully than by spending a day working with a new bit of kit on paying clients windows.

 

[Alien Human]

Not as much as I used to - I still need to spend some time on the glass cleaning real clients windows just so that I can test and assess new equipment and prototypes. There is still no better way to assess something fully than by spending a day working with a new bit of kit on paying clients windows.

If you ever want to trial some new kit in Brighton then I'm sure my customers will be happy to be the houses tested. My fees are very small for this 'once in a life time opportunity ' .....call it 1k?......not including Vat which is 500%........

Sales was never really my thing /emoticons/wink.png

 

[peter rogers]

i think that was a very gd answer mate

for me id choose the slx as i need to jump maybe 15 fences a day and the pole needs to go over to

im extremley overdue buying a pole a gd one as im still using thy beast 30ft extel pole lol just under 5 years now and cost 180 ish including delivery /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[Alex Gardiner]

If you ever want to trial some new kit in Brighton then I'm sure my customers will be happy to be the houses tested. My fees are very small for this 'once in a life time opportunity ' .....call it 1k?......not including Vat which is 500%........
Sales was never really my thing /emoticons/wink.png

:thumbsup:

 

[tench0771]

1 thing to think about guys is if ur tax bill is say 6k then insted of paying 6k tax y u not treat ur self to a couple of extreme poles that will knock ur tax bill down 5k or wat ever an u will have the best pole on the ,market i have felt a extreme25 for a couple of minits not with aquadapter ofcorse but it fely fether lite compaired to my slx22

 

[Jake]

You only get the vat back...

 

[Jake]

Alex I meant you must secretly laugh when they buy an Xtreme when you know deep down an Slx is brilliant at 18' /emoticons/wink.png

But if margins are better with slx then maybe not...

 

[Tuffers]

The difference for me is that one of them makes me a better margin that the other /emoticons/smile.png - The SLX has better margin than the Xtreme poles, so I would rather sell £400 worth of SLX poles than £400 worth of Xtreme poles!
Leaving that to one side /emoticons/wink.png, I would say the difference comes down to working method and priorities.


Working Methods

Those who tend to care for their equipment well and have a more precise working method, usually will get the best out of an Xtreme and appreciate the difference. The SLX is better able to cope with being poorly maintained and bashed about in use. If you are in doubt about whether you would be able to care for the Xtreme, then stick with the SLX poles (below 30ft) as they are also very good.

Priorities

If you have any kind of injury or difficulty in pole work, then the Xtreme will often jump to the top of the list, regardless of height working at.

If you are working at height regularly then the larger Xtremes are a natural choice.

Some simply like knowing that they are working with the easiest possible pole available - the cost is often secondary.

From my own working perspective (just spent 5 hours out cleaning windows)

I think that the SLX poles are great to work with and provide a user and body friendly option. The advantage of full carbon can be readily felt in use - it is more than just the weight saving over a CLX.

However having worked now with Xtreme poles for 4 years, I simply would not want to work with any other pole for a full days work. The weight savings on the small sizes are fairly small, but it is more about the balance, rigidity and bounce suppression in use. The Xtreme25 I have in the van is now 4 years+ and has been used about 2-3 days a week over this time. It has been regularly cleaned and maintained and is well looked after, it has only had 1 replacement top section. The Xtreme 35 + 47 poles in the van are 3-4 years old and are in very good condition as they gets used less and have never needed any section replacing in this time. The 2x Xtreme18 poles get used the most and treated the worst and generally need a replacement section 1 or 2, once a year.

For me the main difference is that working with an Xtreme often makes me smile - the SLX less so /emoticons/smile.png

Yeah, but you get your poles for free /emoticons/tongue.png

 

[Jake]

You still have to pay for them...

I'll stick to slx's and put the profit towards holidays rather than more work gear /emoticons/wink.png

 

[Alex Gardiner]

Alex I meant you must secretly laugh when they buy an Xtreme when you know deep down an Slx is brilliant at 18' /emoticons/wink.png
But if margins are better with slx then maybe not...

You're absolutely right an SLX is brilliant at 18ft....... an Xtreme18 is even better though, which is why I work with one /emoticons/wink.png

 

[tench0771]

You only get the vat back...

u get the hole lot m8 its bizzness expence

 

[tench0771]

alex would u say puting a aquadapter on it will runine its performence or will i fiel a big difference in use compaired to my slx?

 

[Jake]

u get the hole lot m8 its bizzness expence

Yeah but you still have to pay for it, your only avoiding the tax on the item

 

[Alien Human]

@Alex Gardiner

Have got an idea for a promotional video for you.

Set to the theme tune to 'Am I a man or a muppet' .......cause it's a good song.

'Fed up of having to eat x4 lunches to keep being able to lift your fookin heavy poles?.....'

'Tired of being asked if you are pregnant?'

'Being constantly turned away from all forms of public transport because your just so god dam big?'

'These are just some of the side effects of using a massive heavy fookin WFP pole can do to your life.......look what it did to this man in just 3 hours:

https://earlthebutcher.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/valentino1.jpg

'To avoid any of the above then buy an SLX or Xtreme pole immediately!

* Special offer - buy both for £5000......each......offer ends in 2 mins'

/emoticons/wink.png

 

[Jake]

You're absolutely right an SLX is brilliant at 18ft....... an Xtreme18 is even better though, which is why I work with one /emoticons/wink.png

So would I if I didn't have to pay for them...

 

[davewindowcleaner]

I will be needing a new pole soon, my 42ft clean tech pole I bought in 2006 is pretty much knackered.

Will a slx 39 pole be more than enough to clean 3 storeys town houses that I do? (My important big paying customers)

These town houses also got conservatories so to clean top windows I am unsure if slx 39 will be long enough to reach as I can only just about reach the top windows with the 42ft pole I got now.