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Why didn't i do this sooner

The quicker i get a van and stop fannying about with drums the better as then i will have enough water to do bottoms as well without having to try to conserve it

I will still defend the tradders as it is a hard job up and down ladders all day but also am feeling it from holding a fibreglass pole in the air all day

Still gotta keep my squeegees as i do insides but the more wfp i can do the better

Did some in the rain without slippery rungs which was excellent

After first 2 houses I stopped checking my work as is drying clear

Can't believe i used to slate the stick wagglers

 
It's gonna be good Dave! You'll be flying soon,

Yep keep the trad alive! Always good to do a few houses trad where the wfp system isn't suited...

Once you get a carbon pole you'll find it much much easier and quicker

 
I have a holiday to book for alicante in 2 weeks..well flights my mate is lending me a villa

Then have a few other bits like the garden to sort so gonna stay like this for 6 months then go balls out for a van

 
Once you get quick mate your round won't be enough for you. Its a wise move for a windy with an established round. At least you have lots of custies and trad skills to boot unlike the folk that spend 1000s before they've done their first job. Keep us informed how it progresses. And I think you're right, a van mount must be the way to go for it to work.

 
I will always keep my hand in with trad as i think it is a valuable skill in case of breakdowns etc

Also i still enjoy it even after 26 years

But i do have to say that wfp is a lot quicker for me on tops even after just 1 day and i am a quick tradder

I think the time spent moving ladders and changing tools etc takes longer than the extra time scrubbing the frames etc with wfp

Plus my custys are impressed by the extra clean frames even though i always clean them when trad

 
I'm sure a van would slow me down a bit tolish as have to pissarse about with hose etc but also not carrying water around is appealing

Going to a bni meeting next week with my mate as a guest

He has his own plumbing firm and went once and got in with the right people..now he spends over a grand a year to go but 1 job he got was worth 82k to him..hence why he has a villa in alicante for me to use

I'm not gonna go regularly unless it works but i am primarily going so he can introduce me to the people he knows including the guy who owns :turd:loads of car dealerships

Worth a punt and would be good to get a big contract to justify spending out on a van asap

 
Nice one dave, let us know how the bni goes, I got invited to one but was put off with the costs...

Van system will speed you up mate, defo be faster

 
I'm really happy for you @daveyboy1 . I was trad, went wfp and have never looked back. Got a van, water on tap, its not hard work with hoses and you can still do an excellent job.

Glad to have you on the 'Dark' side.

 
I will always need a setup like i have now also as a lot of houses in this town only have access through the house

Don't want to be trailing my hose through houses

 
As aboveWhy didn't i do this sooner

The quicker i get a van and stop fannying about with drums the better as then i will have enough water to do bottoms as well without having to try to conserve it

I will still defend the tradders as it is a hard job up and down ladders all day but also am feeling it from holding a fibreglass pole in the air all day

Still gotta keep my squeegees as i do insides but the more wfp i can do the better

Did some in the rain without slippery rungs which was excellent

After first 2 houses I stopped checking my work as is drying clear

Can't believe i used to slate the stick wagglers
Look forward to doubling your hourly rate :thumbsup: and what's this about WFP'ing the bottoms too Davey? Tut tut /emoticons/biggrin.png

 
When I first started with a van mount I was annoyed for about 3 months, shouting and screaming at my hose tangled on every damn thing.

Then I took the karate kid approach, started doing each job real slow, paid attention to where hoses got laid, where access issues were and so on. It took about two months but then started flying through them, some of my more compact days it's 30 houses and home by 2.30. /emoticons/biggrin.png

Persevere, when it clicks you will be smiling all the way.

 
It's a sad day.Another tradder gone. Taken by all the hype /emoticons/tongue.png

Wfp bottoms. Tut tut.

Not many of us left now.
I still trad Posh, when asked, and the typical £10 customer gets to pay an extra £5 just for me to get my ladder off.

It's gotta be worth while to break out the ladder. /emoticons/wink.png

 
I'm the other way round. I love trad. My squeegee is just how I like it. My mix is now perfect. But I break out the pole sometimes just for a change.

 
I need to learn to trad better never had much chance to practice as wfp from the beginning i think i need my system to break down for a while to have no choice but to trad /emoticons/wink.png hope i didnt jinx it :)

 
I did trad for awhile at the start but quickly realised WFP was the way forward, awkward windows, pratting about with a ladder sinking in flower beds, taking it on and off the bloody pick up all the time etc etc

Back pack, fill with water, clean windows, next house, repeat, fast, safe and easy.

 
As aboveWhy didn't i do this sooner

The quicker i get a van and stop fannying about with drums the better as then i will have enough water to do bottoms as well without having to try to conserve it

I will still defend the tradders as it is a hard job up and down ladders all day but also am feeling it from holding a fibreglass pole in the air all day

Still gotta keep my squeegees as i do insides but the more wfp i can do the better

Did some in the rain without slippery rungs which was excellent

After first 2 houses I stopped checking my work as is drying clear

Can't believe i used to slate the stick wagglers
Glad it went well Daveyboy /emoticons/smile.png

Liked your comment about WFP being quite tiring as well. Some of the positions can be quite straining on the old arms. Have said a few times that my first WFP pole was a heavy meaty bannana which very almost got me looking like the Hulk when fully extended /emoticons/wink.png

 
You need to go full carbon asap Davey. Much lighter and more accurate. A fibreglass pole bouncing around all over the shop will slow you down and results will suffer.

 
Glad it went well Daveyboy /emoticons/smile.png
Liked your comment about WFP being quite tiring as well. Some of the positions can be quite straining on the old arms. Have said a few times that my first WFP pole was a heavy meaty bannana which very almost got me looking like the Hulk when fully extended /emoticons/wink.png
I got 2 townhouses, a full length conny roof on a 4 bed and a fascia job to do monday as well as the rest of my round..well what of it i can fit in..will feel that i reckon

 
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