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Wink2202 I called diwrnach an idiot because every reply I made to him he dodged it all and spun off in a different direction. Sure it was a frustrated cheap shot, but if anyone takes offence to the soft insult idiot then they shouldn't ever visit a football ground, go to the pub after dark etc, he's a big boy. He made the point about dna and I read his article and then he dodged my response and went off on one about religion. He wants to go back to the ice age to show who 'belongs' here and then its first come first served. Thing is I doubt there are many 'pure' bloods left, if any, if that matters to anyone. Then his reaction to the picture was to try to argue where the boy was from and say the dad was stupid and to blame! Who says that seriously. I feel sorry for his poor dad, I choose not to insult him, but then saying the word idiot gets more of a reaction from everyone and diwrnach gets the sympathy instead, baffling! I'm sure many have seen it, but it puts home a different viewpoint of the situation to the pictures diwrnach was posting. How is it out of order posting it, bury your head in the sand if you'd rather.

I never once said religion is the be all and end all and best thing before sliced bread. I agree, religion sure does cause the world alot of grief, but everyone still has the right to believe what they want to. If it leads to violence then its bad, but people have to accept their own responsibility for the bad and not blame religion or a country and everyone else associated with them for others actions. Look up diminished responsibility. The uk went to war on many occasions, say iraq for example, did everyone agree (choose any of the times)? No. Should everyone in the uk be blamed for it? I would take offence if I was blamed for them personally.

Sure all points you made about you not getting help is bad and I wish you would of got help, but over someone else? Thats debatable, just because someone is from somalia makes them no less a human in need. I do not know her situation so I cannot comment further. But I would guess you both required help. I'm glad you all who were in trouble and hard times got back on your feet. Thats just what all these refugees and even migrants are hoping for too.

I believe in freedom of movement, not metaphysical borders dictated to me by someone else. I was born on the earth and the earth is my home. As it is everyone elses. Sure everyone needs a little space, like a home, but not a country defined by colour, religion or whatever else. Whether you like it or not the earth is all of ours. And if someone disagrees with me and tells me I have to stay where I was born or where my great grandfather was born then thats their perogative, but its mine to not listen and make up my own choice. As long as I am not hurting anyone else, physically, mentally and so on, I am morally entitled to live my life wherever I please, as is everybody else. If we have to seperate people, I would like to do it by people who are kind and open-minded vs nasty and dog eat dogs, rather than religion, colour and so on. Although of course we have to respect all, so here a paradox lies. I think we should help all that we can, not just people who's dna can be traced back pre-viking and believe our 'country' is better without change and everyone else should stay out. Think about that next time you are in hopsital on the nhs and getting treated, taken care of and operated on by a foreigner to save your life. Oh yeah because we 'need' them so its ok, but if we don't need them they can **** off.

Just like we can take, take, take whatever we like as we are so superior to the rest of the world, but still have the view of not helping. Thing is we do help and we have a large aid budget and thats all good, although their were cries before the election to axe it which was disgusting. We are at the front of the line when it comes to dropping bombs from planes, we should be leading the line from a humanitarian perspective too.

 
Ahhh $hit, I really was avoiding getting into this but ..............

Sure all points you made about you not getting help is bad and I wish you would of got help, but over someone else? Thats debatable, just because someone is from somalia makes them no less a human in need.
No it does not make them any less of a Human Bumpster, HOWEVER, they have not yet worked here, not yet put a single bean into our welfare state, not yet done a darn thing to help improve the quality of any life in this country yet!

So (ONCE AGAIN JUST MY OPINION) They should not get help from British Funds BEFORE those born and raised here, (REGARDLESS OF COLOR OR CREED) that have put into the system for many years, or even just a few years.

Can you HONESTLY say we have an obligation to take care of those (BY JUST GIVING HANDOUTS AS WE ALWAYS DO) that are just arriving on our shores before we take care of those that are already here living through hardships and often around or just below the poverty line?

It's nice to be an idealist Bumpy but it aint an ideal world!

As you are all aware, I have just landed a major project on a site that has 1500 workers on it, walking around site you see all skills and creeds, however the ones doing the menial chores of moping the floors and collecting garbage, well I doubt out of a hundred or so of those they can string together two sentences of English and most have been in this country for about 10 minutes.

HOWEVER here is the reason there are loads of immigrants on the site - not because they are here to 'TAKE JOBS FROM THE ENGLISH' cause quite simply the English youth coming onto the workforce today with no skills or experience feel they are 'ENTITLED' to more, more money, better jobs, if you put them on this site they would all think they know better than the bosses with hundreds of years combined experience 'CAUSE WE IS LIKE WELL WIKED INNIT!'

You put an English youth on a site with a mop and bucket and tell him he's gonna be there for 8 hours 6 days a week and in most cases they have quit by lunch time, 'DAT GAME IS FOR DEM MUGS INNIT, I AINT NO CLEANING LADY'

You give an immigrant a mop and bucket, tell them they will be there, 8 hours a day, 6 days a week, AND they get 30 minutes a day lunch and two 15 minute tea breaks a day and you are going to pay NI for them so if they are unwell they will get assistance and you are going to pay them £6.50 per hour, they will turn around and ask for more hours!

Here they work in conditions that many of them could only aspire to in their own countries.

I know some are now going to give it 'my kids anit lazy, my kids anit like that, but COME ON! you know full well that 99% are cause at the end of the day as parents if my daughter was unemployed tomorrow she will not go hungry or homeless as my door is always open and as a parent if I have to pick up a mop and bucket for 8 hours a day to feed my family i will AND I DO!

Idealism is fine Bumpy, but it is not an ideal world.

I do admire you leading by example, by which I assume as a humanist you are willing to take in all those less fortunate, downtrodden, hungry, homeless fresh of the boat, feed them clothe them and put a roof over their heads indefinitely until they can stand on their own two feet?

As this is obviously the case, just post your home address here so I can share it with any migrants or citizens of the world I come across in need of a meal and a place to stay!

A lot more of us could lead by example by being willing to give a leg up to an immigrant, or even by simply dropping a couple of cans of soup at a food bank (YES THAT IS A TAX DEDUCTIBLE CHARITABLE DONATION RIGHT THERE) to help those hungry and less fortunate.

You can all cry about getting no assistance from the Government, but enough of you get Working Ta Credit, Child Tax Credit, and various other things that you 'forget' to consider when being righteous on here.

I am a middle aged male, married, no kids (below 18 years of age) with no 'disability' (I am not fat, nor do I wear a wrist brace as a fashion accessory nor do I have respiratory issues due to chugging 40 fags a day sat outside Weatherspoons) So there is not a SINGELE benefit or handout I am 'ENTITLED' to.

If you really want to fi this country, 'START WITH The SCROUNGERS, DODGERS, SKIVERS & PI$$ TAKERS' that can afford to sit outside Weatherspoons 18 hours a day.

One small example / question: What makes them ENTITlED to a TV Licence? Why do they need a TV? It does not help them eat, sleep, stay warm or healthy but we still give these TO$$ERS £100 per year cause they are ENTITLED to watch television. COME ON!! Start eradicating these issues here and we will begin to move forward.

Until England 'GROWS SOME BALLS' and used the finest fighting force in the world to go and ANNIHILATE these dictators, war lords and general arseholes off the face of the planet, (and we would only need to do it once or twice to set the example, then we will continue to have a mass immigration problem in this country.

Eradicate the issue in THEIR country and they no longer have reason to come here.

Bump is entitled to opinion and belief and so is Bob (Diwrnach) and all of you but now please let this thread die the death it now deserves as it has become nothing more that tit for tat now.

(I already know you address bumpy so there are 14 Somalians I met on site yesterday that you can expect to be with you in time for a nice Sunday lunch) /emoticons/tongue.png:p YES I AM JOKING

 
Loads of people saying they will put up refugees in their homes if they are homeless, that's nice, why have they not been putting up British homeless people then?

Oh and just watched a video of aid being given out by the red cross, they are refusing it because it has a red cross on it....... they must be desperate then?

 
Current numbers suggest over 1.5 million refugees, lets say half are male, that's being conservative looking at videos and pictures, that is over half a million men, give them all a baseball bat and send them back, they can overwhelm isis in a few weeks no problem with those numbers. There you go fixed it!

 
The problem is with Assad etc not Isis?

Can't fight modern warfare with sticks n stones.

We're sending nappies, baby milk, clothes, sterilising stuff to those that need.

And yes, I give to British people too.

If you've lost kindness, then there's no hope.

 
The problem is with Assad etc not Isis?

Can't fight modern warfare with sticks n stones.

We're sending nappies, baby milk, clothes, sterilising stuff to those that need.

And yes, I give to British people too.

If you've lost kindness, then there's no hope.

 
Blah blah blah, let's close this thred now, no ones gonna win,

We're all highly opinionated, that's why we alll work alone as window cleaners, we can't tolerate people who are different than us :rofl:

 
Politics and religion..what a good combo for a thread:D

is that POLZN BLADES lad polish ? he doesnt sound it
No he is English mate

 
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Politics and religion..what a good combo for a thread:D
No he is English mate
im now thinking polznblades = poles n blades , makes sense-

for years i thought it meant Polish n blades ,possibly the early years in Warsaw where he used a knife to get his own way

 
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He has a Polish wife who used to do the filming..maybe that has something to do with the name also

 
latest news about the family of the 2 poor kids which drowned and recovered in bodrum turkey,

ironically the family have been living in turkey for the last 3 years, the father needed new teeth which he couldnt get in turkey for free.

they boarded a dinghy and set off to get to greece, then hopefully recieve free treatment.

they tried to get in canada but were refused over 3 years ago so they ended up in turkey..

he had no moral reason to put his kids in this dange

this all comes from his sister who got asylum in canada. he ended up in turkey.

this has not been mentioned on national news. WHY.

 

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