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[tench0771]

this guy gives us wfp guys a bad name comes in town does the banks i checked the windows after he did them ones they dryed an was shocked how bad they were huge salt streaks runs just a totel mess ,all i can say is teignmouth needs to b left to the big boys me ray and @Bishy

 

[tench0771]

these out of towners dont have a clue lolo:

 

[Bishy]

I feel sorry for the staff , if they didn't have so many sites to do there attention to detail with be alot better , that guy today traveled from Plymouth to do 1 bank, it makes you wonder how they make money as there prices are cheap but must be as new vans and all over , but yes agree work results are shocking and even are local Cowboys attention to detail is better

 

[Posh]

I was talking to one on Sunday funny enough. He was cleaning dfs in Cambridge which he did all trad with a pole for the high Windows. Nice bloke & done a good job.

 

[tench0771]

cnc ur bk :thumbsup:

 

[Taxlossloz]

I was in sainsbury today

Asked staff who's doing Windows ? ( right mess)

It's a Contract firm from out of town they do all shops

I said well they'd look better if they just let rain wash them

 

[tench0771]

ive met a few in town none of them r very good all slap dash and none last in the firm there in lol

 

[Tuffers]

this guy gives us wfp guys a bad name comes in town does the banks i checked the windows after he did them ones they dryed an was shocked how bad they were huge salt streaks runs just a totel mess ,all i can say is teignmouth needs to b left to the big boys me ray and @Bishy

Illegally parked too. Seen their vans round my way a while ago but seem to have disappeared.

 

[tench0771]

tossxxxxers m8 the lot of them

 

[Markyboy 50]

I've lost jobs to those sort of firms. Ladbrokes and Barclays and boots. I done them weekly as required now these boys turn up 3 monthly and make a mess. Why do the customers let em get away with it?

 

[Cghwindowcleaning]

I know a few who work for these they have to take photos of jobs to prove they have done them.

I have watched one lad walk in to a shopping centre without his tools and take a photo then leave he couldn't even be bothed to scrim off the marks.

I priced dfs recently which this lot have just one,the price they are doing it for is a joke.

They are the largest window cleaning firm in the uk right now but there standard of work is awful.

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

tossxxxxers m8 the lot of them

Bit harsh @tench0771.

I used to work for a nationwide company that shall remain nameless....... oh OK you twisted my arm, CMS facilities out of Wakefield in Yorkshire.

I ran the 'local' van and had my man Vinny as my helper, now by 'Local Van' we covered Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Derbyshire, and Northamptonshire,

Our regular cleans were, Premier Inn Hotels, (including all restaurants attached) All Crown Carveries, Toby Carveries, Nationwide Banks, Derbyshire Building Societies, Greg the bakers, Allied Irish Banks as well as shite loads of independent premises.

More than regularly we would be called on to cover for lads in Birmingham, London and so on cause they couldn't handle their work loads.

The systems in our vans were all DI only, when our TDS climbed to 003 I called the office for resin, was told it was not high enough to change. Was told to wait till it got to 020ppm. Then told to to get some at local supplier, went there called office on phone whom then had to stand there embarrassed as no less than six company credit cards were declined due to lack of funds (this is a company with 60 windy vans over 300 domestic cleaners and a clinical waste disposal business.

Vinny and I always did whatever we could traditionally as the seriously poor condition of our WFP water was so shocking it was pointless, may as well have used a garden tap.

So please @tench0771 feel free to slate the company but the poor employees receive sod all training and sub standard tools so not really their fault. IMO

 

[tench0771]

that dont saprize me @Green Pro Clean Ltd /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[tench0771]

@Bishy :rofl:

 

[mark m]

hope every thing s going well Matt and Tench

 

[Dave B]

I chat to some of them when i am getting my water as they fill up there also

From talking to them it seems to be if you pay peanuts you definitely get monkeys

 

[Bishy]

hope every thing s going well Matt and Tench

All good mark what about your self ?

 

[Bishy]

Yh I don't blame the staff , I used to work for company and they sent me to bristish window cleaning acamdy for training ( cleaned the same clean bit of glass for the day ) but only trad training so when got back to office said here's your van and was only wfp no trad equipment and I got chucked in deep end and had to learn the hard way by making mistakes and I always was in wrong when I wasn't when told office resin or this or that but being employed you have no leg to stand on as they think there right , but that what made how my business is today a success. If I need tools il buy it if need that il go get it, there cheap and to make money they taken short cuts and don't realise when they got the contract it great but soon as you lose it big impact on income so I'm happy with so many smaller contract not chains

if I loose 1 site won't be a big impact in income were having chain of 10 sites will be big impact to profit

 

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

That's commercial contract window cleaning for you- cleaned to a budget not a standard!! They will be getting cleaned for peanuts, the type of money most wouldn't even consider drawing the curtains back for. I know a guy who does this kind of work, he gets run ragged just to make a wage- my bungalows are priced higher than some of his "cream"!!!!

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

They used to send me and Vinny all the way from Nottingham to Skegness just to do the two front doors of the Nationwide building society. Time alone cost them £40.00 not including diesel and wear and tear etc.

We have a large Toby carvery near to my house, in and out all traditional all Georgian frames an easy two hours and they only paid £16 per clean. 50% of the labor costs.

I have no idea how they are still in business. (or even if they are)

 

[Cghwindowcleaning]

I know cms lost a lot of work.A friend of mine has the premier inn contract down south.

Don,t be fooled into thinking there is no money in it I sub a small bit of retail work from some of them and the work is very profitable.

Companies like nationwide don't sub out work.There employees are paid a wage and are run ragged for it I know lads that will drive 50 miles to clean a shop for£7.Nationwide have also had some very big investment something silly like £5 million so that is probably helping them out.