cleaning and pricing conservatory roofs?

[Cghwindowcleaning]

I don't clean con roofs,fascias etc any more and when I did I hated them.

90% of the time they can be rotten and most only get them done yearly some if that.

I see them a specialised job they require certain tools and chemicals and are harder than maintance work due to access and dirt.

So I believe this type of work should be earning and paying more.

Although what they do is slightly different and a more thorough and detailed service some of you should look a what Thomas Sanderson charge you would have heart attacks.

 

[Poles Apart]

I don't clean con roofs,fascias etc any more and when I did I hated them.90% of the time they can be rotten and most only get them done yearly some if that.

I see them a specialised job they require certain tools and chemicals and are harder than maintance work due to access and dirt.

So I believe this type of work should be earning and paying more.

Although what they do is slightly different and a more thorough and detailed service some of you should look a what Thomas Sanderson charge you would have heart attacks.

Best post I've seen on here for a while and very true why toil doing this kind of work they wait till there's years of filth on them then we go and charge them peanuts waste of time.

 

[Dave B]

Best post I've seen on here for a while and very true why toil doing this kind of work they wait till there's years of filth on them then we go and charge them peanuts waste of time.

Then don't charge peanuts then

I have done 2 today already and 1 in and out which people seem to not want to do either then another one in about an hour

Add that to the windows i have done and i know who has earned more today lol

Up to you but i like to do them as easy money

 

[Adams0211]

Then don't charge peanuts then
I have done 2 today already and 1 in and out which people seem to not want to do either then another one in about an hour

Add that to the windows i have done and i know who has earned more today lol

Up to you but i like to do them as easy money

I agree. I don't care if it hasn't been cleaned in four weeks, four months or four years as long as I'm getting paid good money for it.

Thomas Sanderson have their place but from my (admittedly limited) experience, most people round here would rather pay a local windy to come and give their conny a clean that pay Thomas Sanderson rates.

The customer gets a clean conny without spending mega bucks and I get £60 in my pocket for an hour and a halfs work. Everyone's a winner.

It's a bit like having your car cleaned. You can pay £8 to have your car cleaned at a local car wash or you can pay £80 for someone to come and detail it for you.

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[Poles Apart]

Most of the "dirty" ones I've done don't take an hour and a half, haven't had many people ask for the service as maintainance cleans they normally wait till they're green.

 

[Cghwindowcleaning]

I agree. I don't care if it hasn't been cleaned in four weeks, four months or four years as long as I'm getting paid good money for it.
Thomas Sanderson have their place but from my (admittedly limited) experience, most people round here would rather pay a local windy to come and give their conny a clean that pay Thomas Sanderson rates.

The customer gets a clean conny without spending mega bucks and I get £60 in my pocket for an hour and a halfs work. Everyone's a winner.

It's a bit like having your car cleaned. You can pay £8 to have your car cleaned at a local car wash or you can pay £80 for someone to come and detail it for you.

Very true but I don't see myself or business on par with Eastern European car cleaners.

And take in to account travel time and packing away that 1 1/2 hours is probably nearer 2hours so £30 an hour.You could earn more on regular houses.

Don,t get me wrong I know lads who love doing them and if your round is a little quiet there a good way of bumping your money up.

Like I say Thomas Sanderson are a slightly different service but if thay are getting £600 upwards what to say you can't charge £400?

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[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

90% of my conny cleans (external) are between £150 & £250

10 % are below, these are usually real quick 'lean to' style conservatories around £40 - £80

If they want internal cleans then it is simply double.

If they want each window opened, all the shuts cleaning and hinges oiling etc then they can probably double that again.

Thursday I will clean windows on a house that will take 45 minute and it is a £60 job and she will have my cash in her hand without a question she has a large conservatory and if she wanted it to the Thomas Sanderson level she would not think twice about £1000 - £1500. She is the type that knows you pay for quality, simple.

 

[Adams0211]

I guess it comes down to what people are happy to earn. We all want to earn as much as possible but if a job takes two hours including setting up and packing away I can live with £30 an hour.

I think that in the right area (and if you had all the gear) you probably could undercut Thomas Sanderson and pick up some of their potential customers. I dont know how successful you'd be in a town like ours though. I don't believe there's many people round here who would choose to pay for that level of service over a £60 clean from the local windy.

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[Cghwindowcleaning]

Every body wants different things from running their business and thats the good thing about working for your self.

But never self doubt or believe a customers won't pay that price.Belive in the service your selling,you have to always be prepared if someone won't pay what you want to then walk away.

if all cleaners took the same approach the overall price will be raised.

Like I said I don,t clean them any more and so do quite a few window cleaners I know meaning supply and demand should push the price up.

Thomas Sanderson have just started advertising in our area so they must see a market for it.

 

[Poles Apart]

If I can get £30+ an hour cleaning windows then I don't want conservatory roofs unless I get big bucks I'd sooner clean windows, my round isn't full by any means me and my partner both do it part time so 2 of us about 20 hours a week each I have the capacity to more than double my workload and I'm currently trying to expand the business through flyers and advertising I would of course not refuse add ons but if I don't get more from it than window cleaning then I don't see it as making business sense to do something that takes longer and is harder to do for a price that doesn't reflect the service provided if window cleaners charge double for a one off or irregular clean then a conservatory roof clean that in the main gets requested only when they are green or very bad should demand a price that reflects all the effort I've rarely come across straight forward ones and glass roofs I've never completely been happy with.

 

[aceman]

If I can get £30+ an hour cleaning windows then I don't want conservatory roofs unless I get big bucks I'd sooner clean windows, my round isn't full by any means me and my partner both do it part time so 2 of us about 20 hours a week each I have the capacity to more than double my workload and I'm currently trying to expand the business through flyers and advertising I would of course not refuse add ons but if I don't get more from it than window cleaning then I don't see it as making business sense to do something that takes longer and is harder to do for a price that doesn't reflect the service provided if window cleaners charge double for a one off or irregular clean then a conservatory roof clean that in the main gets requested only when they are green or very bad should demand a price that reflects all the effort I've rarely come across straight forward ones and glass roofs I've never completely been happy with.

....and breathe .... spot on - it is harder work than maintenance window cleaning and should be reflected in the price accordingly.

 

[aceman]

90% of my conny cleans (external) are between £150 & £250
10 % are below, these are usually real quick 'lean to' style conservatories around £40 - £80

If they want internal cleans then it is simply double.

If they want each window opened, all the shuts cleaning and hinges oiling etc then they can probably double that again.

Thursday I will clean windows on a house that will take 45 minute and it is a £60 job and she will have my cash in her hand without a question she has a large conservatory and if she wanted it to the Thomas Sanderson level she would not think twice about £1000 - £1500. She is the type that knows you pay for quality, simple.

Double the outside rate, or same again for inside?

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

if someone won't pay what you want to then walk away.if all cleaners took the same approach the overall price will be raised.

Preaching to the choir.

Double the outside rate, or same again for inside?

Probably same again. More if a minger.

 

[adamangler]

so you would charge 150-250 for outside, or 300-500 in and out for an average conny?

thats about £100 p/h or more

kinell

 

[Dave B]

You gotta be realistic with pricing

It gets to the point where you start taking the ****

I earn well enough out of them to be worthwhile doing them but there is only so much you can charge for 2 hours work

 

[slippy]

Did this one for £60 today for the roof4 panels wide both sides and the finials and that is it

Took under an hour with customer out and then did widows and frames etc on the house..obviously did the windows above the conny before i rinsed it

£80 in my pocket in 1 hr 30

Wooooohoooooo

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Did you clean all the PVC on there and get the glass as clean as normal windows?

 

[Dave B]

All cleaned to the same standard as a window clean including frames and sills as normal

No point doing it if not doing it properly

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

You gotta be realistic with pricingIt gets to the point where you start taking the ****

No mate I disagree. You can price them however you like, that's down to each individual. Only difference is if it's a splash n dash you can't ask premium prices. If it's full UPVC restore and every last inch like new then you can charge big bucks.

Thomas Sanderson probably works on the theory that if he quotes 10 jobs at £100 he will get all 10. If he quotes them all at £1000 he will only get 1 but earn the same money.

Also remember we talk of £30 - £40 per hour for this sort of work and he will have 2 or 3 lads there for the day so say 3 for six hours that's still £720.

Theres two levels in all industries, the people that can do the job and then the people that are known for doing the highest standard work in the industry (and I have to say his lads look pretty dammned thorough) and there will always be people willing to pay yhe premiums to say 'oh we had it professionally cleaned by Thomas, he's the best you know'

Pricing should always be done so that the customer can appreciate that it's not a matter of 'oh can you just wash off the conservatory whilst your here?' It is a luxury service not an essential one.

I am happy for them to reject my prices as that means I don't have to sod about with it but I am also happy when they accept my price as I am getting the money I want to sod about with it.

 

[dasslr1]

sorry had to do it .this is some custys when I show the bill

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[adamangler]

Don't be like me I made a right feck up of a quote last month and knew it at the time.

I underpriced a large flat roof glass conny pretty badly but it wasn't a parent how badly until I went to clean it today.

Now this was the first time I've done a flat roof conny to make it more difficult it couldn't be done from the ground due to the angle and had to be Don on a pair of ladders.

I quoted £100 for inside and ouT.

Well today after an hour rying to clean this this this thing I realised this was going to be an all day job after 2 hours I realised it might be a two day job!.

From the ladders I could just not get the right angle and pressure on to clean sll the nooks and crannys perfectly on top of this the decking thing wouldNT rinse with it being flat.

After 3 hours I thoughT I had done the outside roof until I went inside and cleaned a panel. Now by this time I had sever neck and shoulder pain and was fuming with myself how badly I'd underprice. I knew I would have to redo the roof but the guy didn't want me climbing on and I hadn't even done inside yet.

This home is just shy of a million pound house and honestly I could see this job taking a second day.

Now when I'm stressed I'm not the most rational person I throw the teddy out and carry on a bit with myself.

I went and told the guy I had seriously under quoted and that to do the job properly was going to be £200+

Now obv he wasn't keen on that idea and after all it was my fAult.

So I've had to walk away from it after 3 hours and chalk it down to experience.

There's no way I was spending 2 days on it for 100 quid.

What an idiot. Funny thing is I knew I'd got the quote wrong and my gut was telling me not to do it.

So thee you go. Please think through every job. And stay away from flat glass roofs they are ridiculousView attachment 6859

 

[Poles Apart]

Put it down to experience it happened to me won't go near glass roofs.