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First day with Gardiners new PU pole hose

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Fitted it last night.

First impressions so far today:

-Univalve is more responsive as there's less give in the hose and more pull on the valve

-the colour is retina burning but I like it

-it kinks worse than anything I've had before, however, it's also stupidly light so I just pick it up even if it's ravelled

-it's made the pole even lighter

-was easy to cut with a pair of pliers

-got 30m for £16 so pretty cheap

Pics below.

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When you say kinks, do you mean coils. If you do there's one one or two things you can try. First, lay the hose out flat and straight. To get it as flat as possible, when you have it all layed out you may need to untwist it by turning the hose in your hand at one end until the coils come out of it. then weight it down so it lays straight. Then pour boiling water on it from a kettle working your way slowly along it. This softens it and allows it to cool without so much coil memory. I did mine before connecting it all up by putting the whole lot of it in a very large pan full of boiling water and boiled it for about 5 minutes, then quickly uncoiled it at the back of my house in the car park and weighted it both ends till it was cold. That really helped straighten it out. When using it though you will find that if you keep turning one way whilst working every now and then you will need to untwist the hose by turning the pole in your hand the opposite way to the twist.

I really like PU hose as it is really light but very tough, but it does take some managing.

PS: I love the colour

 
Fitted it last night.
First impressions so far today:

-Univalve is more responsive as there's less give in the hose and more pull on the valve

-the colour is retina burning but I like it

-it kinks worse than anything I've had before, however, it's also stupidly light so I just pick it up even if it's ravelled

-it's made the pole even lighter

-was easy to cut with a pair of pliers

-got 30m for £16 so pretty cheap

Pics below.
You've had that brush and pole for a while now. It doesn't look as though its done any work yet. /emoticons/biggrin.png

 
have you used gardiners reinforced hose & if so how does it compare ???
This is what I've just swapped out for the PU. The reinforced was good and didn't have any issues kinking but it was a bit stretchy as others have reported with the standard yellow /emoticons/smile.png

 
You've had that brush and pole for a while now. It doesn't look as though its done any work yet. /emoticons/biggrin.png
Haha, it rained all of June then I was off ill for a week... And I gave it all a clean down yesterday too after using it on a gutter job /emoticons/laugh.png

 
i had the reinforced hose for a few weeks & thought it was very good, then i got a univalve. now when i turn the univalve off the hose acts more like microbore & coils everywhere gardiners told me a few people have rung them with this problem but didn't say if they are going to do owt about it, but it will happen with the thing they're bringing out as well.

i have to turn the water off at the flow tap on the end of the microbore , then, open the univalve to empty the hose at least after every house & often more. not the end of the world but a proper pita

 
i had the reinforced hose for a few weeks & thought it was very good, then i got a univalve. now when i turn the univalve off the hose acts more like microbore & coils everywhere gardiners told me a few people have rung them with this problem but didn't say if they are going to do owt about it, but it will happen with the thing they're bringing out as well.i have to turn the water off at the flow tap on the end of the microbore , then, open the univalve to empty the hose at least after every house & often more. not the end of the world but a proper pita
Had the same thing. Or water would come back down the hose etc but that didn't happen once yesterday

 
i had the reinforced hose for a few weeks & thought it was very good, then i got a univalve. now when i turn the univalve off the hose acts more like microbore & coils everywhere gardiners told me a few people have rung them with this problem but didn't say if they are going to do owt about it, but it will happen with the thing they're bringing out as well.i have to turn the water off at the flow tap on the end of the microbore , then, open the univalve to empty the hose at least after every house & often more. not the end of the world but a proper pita
We now do 4 different pole hose types for different users preferences. Adding a flow valve to the top of a pole will put pole hose under very different stresses compared to having a valve at the beginning of the hose. This does not mean there is a fault with these hoses just that they then start to react differently when used differently. One way that this can be controlled is by accurately setting the shut-off point on the pump controller so that the water flows shuts off with less back pressure. We recommend fine-tuning your controller whenever changing hoses to get the best performance from your pump and hoses.

I personally have been using our new gooseneck valve with our standard all-season pole hose and have had no coiling or stretching issues - I have got the controller tuned to shut-off quickly though which helps prevent over-pressuring.

 
Alex, will your new gooseneck valve work with a swivel? I really want to give it a go but I love my swivel. The Uni-Valve is excellent but if I can keep my hands on the pole to operate the tap that would be great.

 
Alex, will your new gooseneck valve work with a swivel? I really want to give it a go but I love my swivel. The Uni-Valve is excellent but if I can keep my hands on the pole to operate the tap that would be great.
It can work with a swivel, but is not as easy to use without a swivel - my recommendation would be that if you like using a swivel to stick with an alternative flow control option.

 
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Alex, will your new gooseneck valve work with a swivel? I really want to give it a go but I love my swivel. The Uni-Valve is excellent but if I can keep my hands on the pole to operate the tap that would be great.
to keep both hands on the pole just operate the univalve by standing on the hose & giving the pole a quick push up, takes a bit of practise & can't be done in every situation but works very well most of the time & reinforced hose is dead easy to nip shut as well

 
We now do 4 different pole hose types for different users preferences. Adding a flow valve to the top of a pole will put pole hose under very different stresses compared to having a valve at the beginning of the hose. This does not mean there is a fault with these hoses just that they then start to react differently when used differently. One way that this can be controlled is by accurately setting the shut-off point on the pump controller so that the water flows shuts off with less back pressure. We recommend fine-tuning your controller whenever changing hoses to get the best performance from your pump and hoses.
I personally have been using our new gooseneck valve with our standard all-season pole hose and have had no coiling or stretching issues - I have got the controller tuned to shut-off quickly though which helps prevent over-pressuring.
when you say fine -tuning do you mean turning the calibration down, as i've done this with no noticeable difference, i still think the reinforced hose is the best i've tried so far though.

 
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