pricing windows

[HALTON]

pricing game how much front and side of this

each area is different i know but looking at a average price.

and how you priced it per window or how long etc.

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[Reach For The Glass]

£12

 

[Den]

£10

 

[Clisty1989]

£8 round here

 

[spruce]

We would try for between £9 and £10 in the North East. In Skelton it would be £9 and in Guisborough it would be £10.

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[HALTON]

ok thanks guys

how do you get to these prices as i was thinking 20p per window so two top openers thats 40p then bottom window 20p so thats 60p for the first section of window then round up t £1 so £1 per section thats £3 top £3 bottom only £6.00

so if back was same what would you charge?

 

[Jamesndc]

I would do that £8-£10 4 weekly cycle

Like spruce I'm based in north east however in Newcastle upon Tyne.

I know many lads here who would do it for less, probably even half the price I would charge. But wouldn't touch Upvc frames doors etc.

Good to see people charging decent prices here in north east.

 

[spruce]

ok thanks guyshow do you get to these prices as i was thinking 20p per window so two top openers thats 40p then bottom window 20p so thats 60p for the first section of window then round up t £1 so £1 per section thats £3 top £3 bottom only £6.00

so if back was same what would you charge?

You are getting too complicated IMHO. Many tried to use the £1 per window, £2 for a bay £1 for the door, £4 for an average conservatory etc and then added extra for obstacles and difficulties. I couldn't mentally tot up each pane of glass as I was walking around the house with the customer. Theoretically, you should add traveling time to get there and back as well.

What we are up against is customer perception. When we first started we had a customer with a conservatory on the back of his house. We charged £7.50. We then pushed the price up to £8.50 and he wasn't happy but tolerated it. We kept that price for years and then raised it to £10.00. We would charge £12 for that job now. He cancelled straight away. Last year he was still looking everywhere for a cleaner that would do it for £7.50.

He is now retired, new car (Astra) with a personalised number plate and plays golf at the local club several times a week. He's a member there. But he sees anything more than £7.50 is a rip off for window cleaning. Both he and his wife are nice people but we don't need them as customers.

ATM we have too many customers, so we price high as we don't need the work. But we also need to keep a reputation. We don't need news spreading that we charge extortionate prices.

There are also areas that we can get a better price for than the same house in other areas. We stay away from Loftus for example as prices for a 3 bed semi are still around £5. People are poor there as any disposable income goes on cigs and booze.

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[adamangler]

Front and side £7-8

Full house £12

4 weekly

On how I come to that figure is simple.

It looks similar to most others I do at that price.

 

[Gavin]

£10 front and sides. Although I've not been cleaning for a while now I would have charged around that.

 

[Goodkingnige]

I'd price it at £10-£12 for front and side - although in practice I'd actually price the whole house because there's obviously full access.

 

[1393jason]

£12- 13 for whole house.

£10 front and sides.

 

[padman]

£10 for me

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

£15 4 weekly £18 8 weekly.

 

[HALTON]

thanks for reply guys

how do you get to your price ?

 

[spruce]

thanks for reply guyshow do you get to your price ?

If you want to earn £30 a working hour then you need to decide how long that house would take you. Through years of doing this job most able bodied window cleaners I expect would take 20 minutes to do the whole house so that was an easy one. If the job was close by other work traveling time would be minimal. That would include unpacking and packing away afterwards. (If I think the house will take me 30 minutes, then I need to quote £15 or find a way to reduce the time spent cleaning it.)

However, if the area would accept a price of £12 I would go with that. But as I said, I don't need the work. If I needed the work then I would stay on £10. You are trying to get the maximum the market or your potential customer will pay you for that job and be happy about paying it. (If you have a cleaner charging £5 for a similar house then expect not to keep the job for very long if you got it.)

However if that house was in a different area it may only be an £8 job. Do you really want the house at £8? That depends. We have an estate that doesn't pay very well but 95% of our customers pay on the day. If they aren't in their neighbours will sometimes pay on their behalf. Internet banking isn't a given as most customers are older ones. (We bought that round due to its compactness.)

Lets throw something else into the mix. I know what my running costs are last tax year. I divided those by the number of cleans I did in the same year. So for me to park up outside the customer's door and clean the windows cost me £3.97. These running costs exclude earnings/wages.

So I now need to ask myself whether I actually need that job for £8 or would I be better off concentrating my efforts in areas where I will have higher rewards.

There is a window cleaner in Charltons just outside Guisborough. Charltons is a small village comprising of a couple of streets of terraced houses. According to friends who live there, the window cleaner charges £2 for fronts, 2 windows and a door. He does 95% of the houses in that village. He rushes through the work and quality isn't a high priority. But at £2 no one complains. £90 houses at £2 = £180 for 3 hours work. His work is safe as no one can compete against those prices.

How would I have priced the work in Charltons if they didn't have a windie? It would probably have been higher per house as my circumstances are different to other cleaners. I doubt I would get through 90 of those house in a day without dropping down dead.

Think of it in the terms of an estate agent. How much is my house worth if I put it on the market to sell it. The agent won't go through the house counting every brick making up the house. But they will have an idea of what a square meter sells for what price in that area. Then they will add on a value for features - lovely garden, etc and take off value for any repairs/upgrades that need doing; ie kitchen and bathroom.

The house valuation is not what the house it worth in its single components, bricks, windows, roof tiles etc. It what the estate agent thinks the market will pay for that house at that time. The house is only worth what a customer is prepared to pay for it and what the bank is prepared to loan the money for.

Its the same with window cleaning.

I've used this example before. Here is a cleaner on another forum. The guys say he can't be getting those prices, yet he is.

Perfect Windows Pricing

He is expanding and preparing to take on a third franchisee.

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[Leeds]

It's simples Halton,

Big Window £2

Average window £1

Small window £1

Tiny Window £1

Bay window £2

Patio Door £2

Door £1

So what I do is add up all the windows, doors etc, then I add £3 on top and that is your price.

So house like that is probably 10 windows, 2 doors, add 3, equals £15. Serves me well. And I'd do that house in 10 mins no problem, maintenance cleans I rarely spend more than 30sec on a window, and no complaints. (In 2 years, my formula will be - add £4 and so on)

Green said a while back he wanted £1 a minute, I found that also works quite well.

In all fairness, how you sell it to the customer is a lot more significant than how you do the maths. You could charge £20 if you could convince them that it's worth it.

The lifeblood of any business is the ability to sell. Be interesting to know how many on here have been in sales before?

 

[HALTON]

So would you still charge £1 for the small side windows each?

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[Leeds]

So would you still charge £1 for the small side windows each?
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Yes I would. And it also makes up for larger windows at £1, balances itself out that way.

 

[Gavin]

It's simples Halton,
Big Window £2

Average window £1

Small window £1

Tiny Window £1

Bay window £2

Patio Door £2

Door £1

So what I do is add up all the windows, doors etc, then I add £3 on top and that is your price.

So house like that is probably 10 windows, 2 doors, add 3, equals £15. Serves me well. And I'd do that house in 10 mins no problem, maintenance cleans I rarely spend more than 30sec on a window, and no complaints. (In 2 years, my formula will be - add £4 and so on)

Green said a while back he wanted £1 a minute, I found that also works quite well.

In all fairness, how you sell it to the customer is a lot more significant than how you do the maths. You could charge £20 if you could convince them that it's worth it.

The lifeblood of any business is the ability to sell. Be interesting to know how many on here have been in sales before?

I pretty much used to use this formula. While also keeping in mind how long it might take and if the price I came to roughly fits what I wanted as an hourly rate. Once you do a few you start to get a feel for how long houses take and what to charge.

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[spruce]

It's simples Halton,
Big Window £2

Average window £1

Small window £1

Tiny Window £1

Bay window £2

Patio Door £2

Door £1

So what I do is add up all the windows, doors etc, then I add £3 on top and that is your price.

So house like that is probably 10 windows, 2 doors, add 3, equals £15. Serves me well. And I'd do that house in 10 mins no problem, maintenance cleans I rarely spend more than 30sec on a window, and no complaints. (In 2 years, my formula will be - add £4 and so on)

Green said a while back he wanted £1 a minute, I found that also works quite well.

In all fairness, how you sell it to the customer is a lot more significant than how you do the maths. You could charge £20 if you could convince them that it's worth it.

 


The lifeblood of any business is the ability to sell. Be interesting to know how many on here have been in sales before?

You could charge £20 if you could convince them that it's worth it.

 


The lifeblood of any business is the ability to sell. Be interesting to know how many on here have been in sales before?

You make some very valid points @meridion. Selling service is a very route to getting the price you need.

"We (even if you are a single operator) would be happy to provide this service for a first time clean of £15 and then every 4 weeks for £12 or every 8 weeks for £15.(Without hestitaing) Part of our service is to clean the whole window including the frames and both the front and rear doors. We will also wipe the lower sills off to ensure we have exceeded your expectations. As I'm already here, would you like us to clean them now for you?"

If you get the go-ahead then also add. "We also clean garage doors for just an additional £2 which will really make all the difference to how good your property will look afterwards."

I was in sales for many years, but hated it. I preferred the after sales service side of the business.

To regress; how would you price those ground and first floor windows?

For me those windows flash up all sorts of warning signs. There are 2 openers above a large pane of glass on either side upper and lower. You can guarantee that water will run down onto the lower glass and leave streaks. We have a neighbour with the same type of windows. Cleaners start and then she doesn't see them again. The only way we do them is to do the tops 2 openers all the way round top and bottom and then do all the other houses in the street. We then come back after the windows have stopped bleeding down and do the lower panes.

If it was my enquiry I would only consider it if I had other work in the area and I would price it high explaining what the problem is regarding streaks on the lower windows. (Our neighbour was quite 'happy' to have runs down the lower glass but it isn't acceptable to our standards. If visitors came in and saw the streaks, what would they see and think?) If I didn't have work in the area then I would just explain that it isn't economical for me to clean them.

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