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martin bass

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Can anyone that has gone Vat reg on residential work let me know if its worth it. at the min my business is just below the vat threshold. so iv started a canvassing business witch is good and good profit but I wish I could keep all the work I sell for my self but I don't wont to pay vat because I cant charge it to residential customers.

 
Yes you can and will have to charge it to residential clients when you go over the threshold.

If a job is priced right and you're not a bucket bob type then say for example you have a minimum price of £15 (should be industry standard in my opinion regardless of the job or where you are in the country) then you are still earning £12.50 after paying the VAT.

Also you are getting back all the VAT you spend. Personally I spend £400 per month on diesel alone. So that world be £80 back and that alone would off set at least 32 clients VAT.

The key factors here is that you will no longer be shackled and restricted in your growth potential as you will be registered and not worrying about 'do I don't I' you will just go and get on with it.

 
Yes you can and will have to charge it to residential clients when you go over the threshold.
If a job is priced right and you're not a bucket bob type then say for example you have a minimum price of £15 (should be industry standard in my opinion regardless of the job or where you are in the country) then you are still earning £12.50 after paying the VAT.

Also you are getting back all the VAT you spend. Personally I spend £400 per month on diesel alone. So that world be £80 back and that alone would off set at least 32 clients VAT.

The key factors here is that you will no longer be shackled and restricted in your growth potential as you will be registered and not worrying about 'do I don't I' you will just go and get on with it.
Yes you can and will have to charge it to residential clients when you go over the threshold.
If a job is priced right and you're not a bucket bob type then say for example you have a minimum price of £15 (should be industry standard in my opinion regardless of the job or where you are in the country) then you are still earning £12.50 after paying the VAT.

Also you are getting back all the VAT you spend. Personally I spend £400 per month on diesel alone. So that world be £80 back and that alone would off set at least 32 clients VAT

The key factors here is that you will no longer be shackled and restricted in your growth potential as you will be registered and not worrying about 'do I don't I' you will just go and get on with it.
True about being restricted I've sold about 50k canvassed work in last year I wish I keep it all thanks for your help. I was also after a debt letter I've looked on here but cant find one. I know u have put some thing on here.

 
Dear P.I. Staker.

Your balance of £100'000 million for the last two window cleanings at your property (December 2016 & January 2017) are now considerably past due.

We have called at the premises more than once but so far have been unable to collect payment.

I am sure this is an oversight on your part and would appreciate your prompt attention to this matter,

Please ensure the account is settled within 7 days otherwise it will automatically be filed with with the small claims court as it is our company policy not to allow accounts to run past 90 days.

As well as being liable for the court filing cost of £25 there will also be an additional administration charge by or office of £40.00 to cover all paper work involved.

This account can be settled online by sending payment to Account Number #12345678 Sort Code: 11-22-33. Please use your address as a reference in all correspondence to ensure we credit the correct account.

Sincerely Mr A. Noyed-Windy.

 
Dear P.I. Staker.
Your balance of £100'000 million for the last two window cleanings at your property (December 2016 & January 2017) are now considerably past due.

We have called at the premises more than once but so far have been unable to collect payment.

I am sure this is an oversight on your part and would appreciate your prompt attention to this matter,

Please ensure the account is settled within 7 days otherwise it will automatically be filed with with the small claims court as it is our company policy not to allow accounts to run past 90 days.

As well as being liable for the court filing cost of £25 there will also be an additional administration charge by or office of £40.00 to cover all paper work involved.

This account can be settled online by sending payment to Account Number #12345678 Sort Code: 11-22-33. Please use your address as a reference in all correspondence to ensure we credit the correct account.

Sincerely Mr A. Noyed-Windy.
thanks

 
Dear P.I. Staker.
Your balance of £100'000 million for the last two window cleanings at your property (December 2016 & January 2017) are now considerably past due.

We have called at the premises more than once but so far have been unable to collect payment.

I am sure this is an oversight on your part and would appreciate your prompt attention to this matter,

Please ensure the account is settled within 7 days otherwise it will automatically be filed with with the small claims court as it is our company policy not to allow accounts to run past 90 days.

As well as being liable for the court filing cost of £25 there will also be an additional administration charge by or office of £40.00 to cover all paper work involved.

This account can be settled online by sending payment to Account Number #12345678 Sort Code: 11-22-33. Please use your address as a reference in all correspondence to ensure we credit the correct account.

Sincerely Mr A. Noyed-Windy.

Nicely put GP I think i need to sort out some T&C's more so regarding commercial clients to ensure prompt payment on some and avoid them switching schedules or messing me about and thus me losing money .

 
Yes you can and will have to charge it to residential clients when you go over the threshold.
If a job is priced right and you're not a bucket bob type then say for example you have a minimum price of £15 (should be industry standard in my opinion regardless of the job or where you are in the country) then you are still earning £12.50 after paying the VAT.

Also you are getting back all the VAT you spend. Personally I spend £400 per month on diesel alone. So that world be £80 back and that alone would off set at least 32 clients VAT.

The key factors here is that you will no longer be shackled and restricted in your growth potential as you will be registered and not worrying about 'do I don't I' you will just go and get on with it.
Isn't vat 20%?

 
Yes you can and will have to charge it to residential clients when you go over the threshold.
If a job is priced right and you're not a bucket bob type then say for example you have a minimum price of £15 (should be industry standard in my opinion regardless of the job or where you are in the country) then you are still earning £12.50 after paying the VAT.

Also you are getting back all the VAT you spend. Personally I spend £400 per month on diesel alone. So that world be £80 back and that alone would off set at least 32 clients VAT.

The key factors here is that you will no longer be shackled and restricted in your growth potential as you will be registered and not worrying about 'do I don't I' you will just go and get on with it.
Blimey, you spend more on diesel a month than me, I'm doing 100 miles a day and spending £75 a week. How many miles a day are you doing green?

 
:eek: I thought I was bad spending nearly 200 a month, just put a deposit on an electric van for 600 miles on it and the 200 a month for my existing bill will cover the payments for it

 
Yes you can and will have to charge it to residential clients when you go over the threshold.
If a job is priced right and you're not a bucket bob type then say for example you have a minimum price of £15 (should be industry standard in my opinion regardless of the job or where you are in the country) then you are still earning £12.50 after paying the VAT.

Also you are getting back all the VAT you spend. Personally I spend £400 per month on diesel alone. So that world be £80 back and that alone would off set at least 32 clients VAT.

The key factors here is that you will no longer be shackled and restricted in your growth potential as you will be registered and not worrying about 'do I don't I' you will just go and get on with it.
So you get away with charging £15 for a couple of windows I charged £6 last week for a front that took 5 minutes It's in a row of Houses I do don't think so.

 
£15 minimum is probably a bit steep....

I mostly do terraced houses about 6 per hour, £7 or £8 is reasonable (£40-£50per hour)

If i charged £15 that'd be £90 per hour and that is a bit excessive imo

Particularly as i will be in 1 or possibly 2 roads all day. Other cleaners have to factor travel in and moving to next job so maybe they'd have a higher minimum.

maybe £15 minimum for a back and front is more acceptable although i always charge more then that

 
A lot of roof cleaning all ove country @Tuffers can easily do 7-8 hundred in week.


Yes it is.

20% of 15 is 3 ain't it???????

That'd leave you 12 not 12.50?

We're going vat registered next month too. Nowhere near the threshold though.

 
So you get away with charging £15 for a couple of windows I charged £6 last week for a front that took 5 minutes It's in a row of Houses I do don't think so.
What you think (as you have made clear on many occasion) has no bering on hard facts.

Why don't you pop a couple of Zoloft and start seeing the glass as half full for a change?

You really are the most negtive person I have had the disspleasure to encounter.

The 'poles' part in your name obviously refers to the one you have stuck up you a**e when it comes to anything I have to say.

The fact that you even bother to bill a client for £6 speaks volumes as to the type of 'business' you run.

Do me a favor and "put a lid on it" as you would say as you as so far beyond tiresome that you're not even amusing any more!

 
Yes 20% of £15 is £3. However vat is added on at 20% of the price excluding vat so to get to £15inc vat you would start at £12.50, then add 20% vat £2.50. So the vat on £15 is £2.50 as green rightly said.

However the vat on £400inc vat of fuel isn't £80 it is £66.67

I'll post a link to a handy website that has vat calculators as well as self employment tax and national insurance calculators. Comes in handy. Tools To Help Small Businesses - Assist-U Business Services

Window Cleaner Chelmsford Chelmsford Cleaning Services

 
What you think (as you have made clear on many occasion) has no bering on hard facts.
Why don't you pop a couple of Zoloft and start seeing the glass as half full for a change?

You really are the most negtive person I have had the disspleasure to encounter.

The 'poles' part in your name obviously refers to the one you have stuck up you a**e when it comes to anything I have to say.

The fact that you even bother to bill a client for £6 speaks volumes as to the type of 'business' you run.

Do me a favor and "put a lid on it" as you would say as you as so far beyond tiresome that you're not even amusing any more!
You reckon youcharge

15 quid minimum that's Bull you are going to charge that for a couple of windows in a row of Houses you are a Newbie to me I've been in this game for 25 years you haven't got a clue.

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