So after several years I decided that I wanted to make my life a little easier. I have george which I love. I print out my weeks work and work out a days work and crack on then when I get home its (paper work) time. But I decided I wanted to do it quicker so I went onto ebay and bought a tungsten E2 for £20. I downloaded the palm software an installed it and then read the bad news... palm does not work on a 64 bit windows pc... bugger... but being a ex engineer I didnt give up. So after some googleing I found a workaround. Bluetooth .. But I didnt have a bluetooth laptop. Its toutchscreen but not bluetooth.. so ebay again for a bluetooth dongle. I got it delivered on Wednesday so plugged it in and set it up. Next I installed palm, and george palm I also had to follow the palm setup and create a virtual port on my bluetooth. Then I synced and george was on my palm. Cool. So I worked all thursday with george but as a backup I used paperwork. Got home and synced. Dam it didnt work. Then I saw a link on my desktop saying palm config.. You have to tick update and choose your days.. NOW it works. All my data syncs and I also have my debt list which I can update on the fly Hope this helps others. And now I have a extra half hour at the end of the day.