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andy w

There was a trad guy doing the house next door to the one i was doing the other week, we got talking for about an hour and ended up swapping business cards i took his for if anyone want trad only and he took mine for any high work he gets that he cannot do!

We also got onto pricing and it appears i am charging more than double his price, told him he was mad and to get his prices up :)

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Barney

Well I've been WFP for several months now. Just converting most of my customers over from trad to wfp. Prices remain the same for me.

WFP is quicker and safer for me.

Most customers seem ok with change over (propably because I've done a good job trad for years and wfp is just as good). Regards quality of clean, both methods have advantages/disadvantages. I used to think that trad was the best method being up close to glass, but since using wfp, I really like the results.

I do several customers houses both inside and outside. Even with trad, when u think u done a good job, (possably because of light on window or angle viewed at) when u go inside and clean u might see a little smear or mark. If it's bad u have to go back out and put it right.

I find the same with wfp. One my first cleans there was a little spotting somtimes when viewd from inside, but since my 2nd and 3rd cleans this is now minimal.

Me, I now prefer wpf over trad (and that is after 11 years trading).

Basically whichever method u use u need to do a proper job. There are good cleaners using trad and there a good cleaners using wfp.

But there are also bad cleaners of both methods.

 

edit.

I always ask customer for feedback. I've had no bad report from any customer yet concerning WFP. But to be honest I didn't have many bad results in all those 11 years trading.

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Dave B

23 years tradding for me but feel i have reached the point where pised off with ladders

Plus all the extra jobs that are easy stick waggling

It's not the tool at fault..it is the tool using the tool

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andy w

Does that mean the force from the darkside is pulling you @daveyboy1 :eek::hehehe:

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daveryboy1

23 years tradding for me but feel i have reached the point where pised off with ladders

Plus all the extra jobs that are easy stick waggling

It's not the tool at fault..it is the tool using the tool

daveyboy1.

It's a really hard choice to make the move from trad to wpf. But after my change I'm finding it the best choice ever made. wish i made it years ago. I found is not to rush it all at onse, but gradually change over customers.

Yeh ladder are hard work, but wfp can be hard work to. I did a whole day wfp including several 3 storey hosues and my neck and shoulder ached.

Talk about easy stick waggling, customer comes out toaday seeing my wfp and says can i do her velux windows in roof.

Well really green only 3 small windows so I say yeh £10 (10 mins). Job done happy customer, happy me. now every 2 months. (will be even easier) might post pics.

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Scottie
I don't get all the animosity between fellow windies

We're all in the same boat trying to feed the family and keep a roof over our heads

Way i see it if we can help each other then that is a good thing

For example i just found out a forum member is from my town so told him where i know there is no windie as i don't need anymore for now

Why not help rather than be rude for the sake of it

 

SPOT ON!! This is why I was so angry, I was going to say I am a windy and are you saying my method is crap? Your going to go to houses I do and tell them trad is crap? as your flyering my street where I clean and your telling them trad is crap and not a good clean. I was just of the opinion sell your work your business and is there any need to slag off others. I may well do WFP one day but at prsent I just feel trad is for me as I can see my work plus I feel like a windy doing it lol. Just was a bit shocked by the attack on trad style, he did go on and on about how poor it was, that was only a short part I wrote about.

 

I am worried now as he is in my area telling people trad is crap and proven insufficent clean and everyone is doing WFP now. Is this business going to get to the stage where everyone is a window cleaner coz they can WFP? Its going to be a war one day people nicking custys off each other as not enough to go round lol.

 

Well put Daveyboy1 - I came on here and got so much help and to have that in my face today was a shock and not only no another guy diggin trad here not the first and in my area, I got no hope now...... I been dong it 4 weeks now and only have 16 customers and some quotes too, plus lots of my firneds will join in new year. Just worry now this numpty will steal it all as seems like there is a few of them in the business. Grrrr

 

Thats me out saturday now door knocking 10-4 my feet are killling already....

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Scottie
daveryboy1

 

daveyboy1.

It's a really hard choice to make the move from trad to wpf. But after my change I'm finding it the best choice ever made. wish i made it years ago. I found is not to rush it all at onse, but gradually change over customers.

Yeh ladder are hard work, but wfp can be hard work to. I did a whole day wfp including several 3 storey hosues and my neck and shoulder ached.

Talk about easy stick waggling, customer comes out toaday seeing my wfp and says can i do her velux windows in roof.

Well really green only 3 small windows so I say yeh £10 (10 mins). Job done happy customer, happy me. now every 2 months. (will be even easier) might post pics.

 

Does it kill your neck and back? I tried it once and i thought fook this it killed my neck, I jst felt fair play its actually harder than ladders on your neck/back all day. Maybe skills come into it to help make it easier.

 

Going on prices, I charge £10 for a 3 bedroom 6 windows and two doors, would a WFP guy charge more? I would think so, its intersting to know? The running costs muct be large and the work load also after a days work to get water ready etc and equipment maintained must take some time and £££ - I would change over if I could no the windows uptairs would be perfect, I just do not like not knowing what the sill looks like as can not see it or the window close up if any marks are there....

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SPCleaning
Is this business going to get to the stage where everyone is a window cleaner coz they can WFP? Its going to be a war one day people nicking custys off each other as not enough to go round lol.

 

No I don't think so. There has to be a considerable financial investment that will put off most. Most start up's are like yourself Scottie and go Trad. There are a number of new guys on here, so it appears more people are trying the business. This does not mean they will like it, or can stick the bad weather, or are disciplined enough to get up and get out there.

Window cleaning is not for everyone.

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Scottie
No I don't think so. There has to be a considerable financial investment that will put off most. Most start up's are like yourself Scottie and go Trad. There are a number of new guys on here, so it appears more people are trying the business. This does not mean they will like it, or can stick the bad weather, or are disciplined enough to get up and get out there.

Window cleaning is not for everyone.

 

Your right mate, I am new to this but I know in my heart this is suited to me, I love outdoors, winter does not put me off at all, quite like it. I am a bit down of late getting custys but gotta stick it, it can only get better.

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Dave B

Want me to have a word with him scottie..lol

Chin up matè

You just have to suck it up and get on with it

You can only go forwards and get more work so carry on mate

Don't let the bast ards grind you down

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Barney
Does it kill your neck and back? I tried it once and i thought fook this it killed my neck, I jst felt fair play its actually harder than ladders on your neck/back all day. Maybe skills come into it to help make it easier.

 

Going on prices, I charge £10 for a 3 bedroom 6 windows and two doors, would a WFP guy charge more? I would think so, its intersting to know? The running costs muct be large and the work load also after a days work to get water ready etc and equipment maintained must take some time and £££ - I would change over if I could no the windows uptairs would be perfect, I just do not like not knowing what the sill looks like as can not see it or the window close up if any marks are there....

 

It can make your neck and shoulders ache if u do it allday, just like ladder work knackers your knees and legs after a hard day. But it gets easier with practice and technique.

I've been told on here that if you step forward and backward with the pole rather than using your arms too much it helps.

 

Pricing wise i don't go out to charge extra for wfp work because it's generally easier and quicker, so u make the same money to cover cost of water because you do it quicker and can get more jobs done.

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Ryskviking
I'm from the Netherlands, moved over a year ago!

Whoa! I've spent 3 years in Holland - first 18 months in Amsterdam (5 minutes walk from Rijksmuseum), and last 18 months - in Alkmaar. I miss Holland, if I had a chance I'd go back.

How come you have ended up here, meneertje?

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Ryskviking
I met a brittish beauty... :D

Yeh, I mean, if some of the guys I know can do it, then I can definitely do it aswell.. :P

Heavens... From my point of view Dutch girls are one of the prettiest in the world (although Swedish probably would steal the crown here). Still, Dutch girls are proper heart stoppers - and my female beauty standards are really high!

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