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How may of you have tried vision yet



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Tuffers
I,m sure it will smell lot better than the dog

Saturday night looking for a bit of pashion and the hound has a stinking arse

 

:fubar: :worried:

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andy w

I bet the poor hound get blamed for every fart! I know mine does! :rofl:

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balaia

ived tried it a few times now, and i havent really noticed any difference. im not knocking the product because like i said its only been a couple of times. most people seem to be getting on with it though because theres been lots of positive comments. dont know if youhave to use it numerous times on the same glass to get it sheeting better because i havent noticed the glass to be any different and ive done my house a couple of times!

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hi smurf,hope you allow this message,am glad balaia posted this,i said to tuffers a few days ago regarding the experience of this,am not wishing to be drawn into the conversation at all,vision can be perceived as a placebo,it depends on what you are searching for,it does clean/easier to rinse etc etc,it does quite a few things infact but if the end user is wanting say the speed of working then that is all they'll see for the initial few weeks,not the other things,its down to the individual user to see the benifits,like i said i'm glad balaia posted he's looking for the sheeting,that takes a while to see any benifits,please feel free to delete this posted if you feel i have overstepped the mark

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norm

windy- i only use pure water for cleaning your windows not like those trad guys

customer - why does it smell of oranges then?

windy- eh your imagining it :blush:

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comby
How may of you have tried vision yet..If so what do you think?

 

Please note I'm only interested in honest unbias opinions of ppl using the product and not wanting affilates involved in the product to comment nor others to comment on it either if they have never tried it. Thanks...

Got this product on Friday and used it all day brushing was faster over class and smells brill had no complaints when asked for feedback but a very good product be interesting on how next week goes I did notice some bits on window and had to rinse more but putting down to additive cleaning pipes for first time or I was just 2 quick or bits wasnt rinsing off windows sticking on product ill post again tomoz with more detailed review and notice it

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Tuffers

Has anyone tried it today? I have and wasn't impressed to be truthful. I have added a double dose in the tank for tomorrow and see if that helps. On totally hydrophilic glass it's a joy, but hydrophobic is not sheeting for me :(

 

Still early days though, like I said before, I wonder if the glass needs a kind of coating of this stuff before it works.

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Smurf

who said it would sheet? :rolleyes:

 

 

Why did you think it might make any difference by adding a double dose.:confused:

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tried it today on my pace could not see any difference to be honest but earlydays

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Tuffers
who said it would sheet? :rolleyes:

 

 

Why did you think it might make any difference by adding a double dose.:confused:

 

The makers have said that it makes phobic glass act like philic, or have I got that wrong? :rolleyes:

 

My thoughts on adding more is that it isn't a strong enough mix. If I added less I'd be thinking it would be a weaker mix and not work as well, surely?

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Smurf

I got my delivery today so will have a play and will keep an open mind and report back my findings in a few days or so. Even sooner if I think it is shite :D

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Tuffers
who said it would sheet? :rolleyes:

 

 

 

Here you go Smurf "you will notice the brush head will glide along the glass very smoothly, while also making windows more hydrophillic than usual which really speeds up the final rinse"

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Smurf

Here is the full version from their website

 

Vision’ pure water additive is the first in a long line of additives to help window cleaners achieve better and faster results with water fed pole window cleaning.

There is no doubt that pure water does a fantastic job at cleaning windows, but have you ever felt that you need that extra ‘oomf’ or power?

At Jigsaw innovations we believe that window cleaning with pure water technology can sometimes be a bit of a puzzle. Many window cleaners experience difficulties in achieving spot and streak free windows on a constant basis. This is because certain windows have always required different techniques to achieve a spot free clean. Just one of the differences among many others is hydrophobic (water hating) and hydrophillic (water loving) glass. We aim to help all WFP window cleaners to consistently achieve great results, while being able to work faster and earn more.

‘Vision’ pure water additive is designed to be added directly to pure water at a ratio of 1 millilitre per 100 litres of pure (1-100,000). At this ratio you will notice the brush head will glide along the glass very smoothly, while also making windows more hydrophillic than usual which really speeds up the final rinse. Another benefit is cleaning power! With ‘vision’ added to your water, stubborn marks like bird mess and snail trails will come off easier which speeds up your working day and helps achieve all round better results. We’ve even added a pleasant and natural aroma of citrus so you can instantly tell if it is mixed thoroughly in your pure water.

  • Faster cleaning
  • Great shine
  • Added cleaning power
  • Reduced spotting issues
  • Most windows become more Hydrophilic
  • Does not raise TDS
  • Just one 250mill bottle Will dose up to 25,000 litres of pure water
  • Can be used along with Isopropanol

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comby

Tried it again today definitely brush head fast over glass still some windows didn't sheet but it easy with vision I've got a 350 tank and add 3 ml of vision today tomoz trying 4 ml and see that even better I quess it will be and by end of week prob go up to 5 ml as I said in last post about bits all sorted must have been my hose in van this product his better in pure water has smells nice and leaves glass more shiney and I've notice I am working faster and some customers have notice windows gleaming weather they notice or because I've told them about this and they had a good look but there not bothered really as long the window clean

This product his better in pure water and his something I'll be using all the time if it makes u faster and windows easy to clean and van smells nice then why not.sorry for spelling and long feed .

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andy w

I tried it today while working, i found it a bit strange for a start this morning, i could tell when the old RO had finished coming through the hose as the bubbles started :eek:IMAG0028.jpg.015492f0684489c5e995f90c17301e5e.jpg

it concerned me for a start as it made the water seem gloopy and syrupy, i did think it made the brush glide easier while using (unless that was me imagining it o_O) as for rinsing it did seem a bit strange on the hydrophillic glass with the bubbles but it seemed to run off well, on the hydrophobic glass it rinsed well, all day i was using pencil jets and used my pump controller on the setting i always use it at. i would say that i used about 50 litres less water today than normal.

I went back to check on a few windows at the end of the day and they have all dried fine with no spotting (plus no complaints from anyone as yet) :thumbsup:

i will keep using it for now and see how it goes over time :)

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comby
ived tried it a few times now, and i havent really noticed any difference. im not knocking the product because like i said its only been a couple of times. most people seem to be getting on with it though because theres been lots of positive comments. dont know if youhave to use it numerous times on the same glass to get it sheeting better because i havent noticed the glass to be any different and ive done my house a couple of times!

I tried it today while working, i found it a bit strange for a start this morning, i could tell when the old RO had finished coming through the hose as the bubbles started :eek:[ATTACH=full]5415[/ATTACH]

it concerned me for a start as it made the water seem gloopy and syrupy, i did think it made the brush glide easier while using (unless that was me imagining it o_O) as for rinsing it did seem a bit strange on the hydrophillic glass with the bubbles but it seemed to run off well, on the hydrophobic glass it rinsed well, all day i was using pencil jets and used my pump controller on the setting i always use it at. i would say that i used about 50 litres less water today than normal.

I went back to check on a few windows at the end of the day and they have all dried fine with no spotting (plus no complaints from anyone as yet) :thumbsup:

i will keep using it for now and see how it goes over time :)

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comby

It does feel strange having to leave windows with soap on them and u got wording spot on making water gloopy put all his well when drys what your mixture ratio and how do u mix I've tried just putting in top of tank and now today for tomoz mixed 4 squirts in 4 pint pots and added while filling up cos today sometime felt like I didn't mix it Wright today cos sometime didn't feel like was working and then it did example first thing nothing then bang on for 3 hrs then 1 hour not then all afternoon great and enjoyed it when was working wright that why I like it cos I didn't like it when it wasn't working good so must be good to won't working all the time

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I tried it today while working, i found it a bit strange for a start this morning, i could tell when the old RO had finished coming through the hose as the bubbles started :eek:[ATTACH=full]5415[/ATTACH]

it concerned me for a start as it made the water seem gloopy and syrupy, i did think it made the brush glide easier while using (unless that was me imagining it o_O) as for rinsing it did seem a bit strange on the hydrophillic glass with the bubbles but it seemed to run off well, on the hydrophobic glass it rinsed well, all day i was using pencil jets and used my pump controller on the setting i always use it at. i would say that i used about 50 litres less water today than normal.

I went back to check on a few windows at the end of the day and they have all dried fine with no spotting (plus no complaints from anyone as yet) :thumbsup:

i will keep using it for now and see how it goes over time :)

 

Good pic Andy. Wouldn't it be ace if every window rinsed like that :h:

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Tuffers
It does feel strange having to leave windows with soap on them and u got wording spot on making water gloopy put all his well when drys what your mixture ratio and how do u mix I've tried just putting in top of tank and now today for tomoz mixed 4 squirts in 4 pint pots and added while filling up cos today sometime felt like I didn't mix it Wright today cos sometime didn't feel like was working and then it did example first thing nothing then bang on for 3 hrs then 1 hour not then all afternoon great and enjoyed it when was working wright that why I like it cos I didn't like it when it wasn't working good so must be good to won't working all the time

 

I had a thought. If you add Vision to your tank and drive to your first job, it'll mix right? I was thinking that if you didn't move your van much, was it becoming detached from the pure? I noticed that the bubbles came and went at times today.

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andy w
Good pic Andy. Wouldn't it be ace if every window rinsed like that :h:

It would! Wish all the windows i do were like that instead of some of the :turd: ones on my round!

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