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adamangler

Lost a Custie to VISON!



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rafawindowcleaning

Wow that is some speed i have to admit. I think I rinse a bit too much that is where i am going wrong. Also it looks like all the windows in the above example are hydrophillic which helps but still quite impressive

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Smurf

The difference is jonathan knows what he is doing and is skilled at his job all be it having to use vision as makes his job easier to do.

 

cant argue with that jonathan:D

 

great video nice action....I have tried to make one myself and will do soon to give you all a laugh...

 

twice I tripped over the bloody hose and pulled the trolley over today...

 

and hauled the trolley up to do some roof walking so didnt put too much water in and yep it was one two foot window short of water....grrrr..

 

and catch things with my hose ....hmmm

 

its actually easier to just try and lassoo things in advance ..on that roof walk I managed to catch a garden bench down below....I was NOT amused...

 

now you know why I like to wfp when no one is about...

 

and ...yep ...I DID NOTICE....it was the nice glass...:whistle:

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Duncs

ideal house though no letter boxs to do i,m up north too

i,d be well pleased with£10 for that

two guys 15 mins

jonathan i do more rinsing

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Jonathan Sanderson
cant argue with that jonathan:D

 

great video nice action....I have tried to make one myself and will do soon to give you all a laugh...

 

twice I tripped over the bloody hose and pulled the trolley over today...

 

and hauled the trolley up to do some roof walking so didnt put too much water in and yep it was one two foot window short of water....grrrr..

 

and catch things with my hose ....hmmm

 

its actually easier to just try and lassoo things in advance ..on that roof walk I managed to catch a garden bench down below....I was NOT amused...

 

now you know why I like to wfp when no one is about...

 

and ...yep ...I DID NOTICE....it was the nice glass...:whistle: in your vid...

 

yeh plenty like that at a tenner around me too..

 

 

Haha cheapy. Your comments always give me a chuckle.

 

Believe it or not the glass is actually hydrophobic. I do use the vision in my water, and that Along with the fact that I use a high flow rate helps me clean this type of glass just as fast.

 

3 mill (wider ) pencil jets with my flow controller set at 085 which gives me just under 3 litres per minute at the brush head.

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Duncs

just picked up house today about the size what jonathan has shown with letter boxs the last window cleaner charged £4

i nearly fell over

the guy ex fireman doylum

she had trad guy price £10

mine WFP £12

she took me on becourse i would do skylights only one

and would,int need to climb on her roof

what chances have you got when guys are cleaning for £4

i think doing it trad on your own 30 mins

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Jonathan Sanderson

One of the major factors in me being able to work quick is flow rate.

 

I can't stress it enough.

 

If you want to increase your speed then increase your flow.

 

I see some guys working with a trickle and it takes them 3 or 4 times longer to rinse.

 

In the video when I rinse water is flooding every inch of the glass, it just happens in a few seconds because I use a good flow rate.

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Duncs

your flow is high there mate

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Duncs

so your using vision all the time

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Jonathan Sanderson

Letter boxes are a pain @Duncs

 

They do slow me down a bit. Have to go along the top opener first on each side if the house, then back to the lower panel.

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Jonathan Sanderson
so your using vision all the time

 

 

Yes mate.

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Duncs
One of the major factors in me being able to work quick is flow rate.

 

I can't stress it enough.

 

If you want to increase your speed then increase your flow.

 

I see some guys working with a trickle and it takes them 3 or 4 times longer to rinse.

 

In the video when I rinse water is flooding every inch of the glass, it just happens in a few seconds because I use a good flow rate.

gd point mate

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Duncs

must give it go

if it is as gd as folk are saying

my mate will just have to stop drinking the water out of the tank

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Duncs
Letter boxes are a pain @Duncs

 

They do slow me down a bit. Have to go along the top opener first on each side if the house, then back to the lower panel.

yeh same here

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cheapncheerful

ta for that info jonathan I have just the house from hell to try that on...

 

ltd water on a backpack doesnt help...:D

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Duncs

mind cheap using backpack makes you work quick

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tiktik

dont be too worried about those companies that try to take over the world ive seen it alot they usually pack up like they came in a flash.

 

my mate had a steady round for years and then these new kids came and started making a big scene, one day they even came over to him saying sell us your round or loose all your customers to us cos we are the next best thing!!! well sure enough 3 months down they just dissapeard.

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cheapncheerful

yep duncs really really annoying though when its caught as I have no tap and I hate wasting my water...

 

yeh you have to fly its true..:D

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Smurf

That's the main reason why I think a backpack or trolley is a total waste of time for everyday use.

 

Haha cheapy. Your comments always give me a chuckle.

 

Believe it or not the glass is actually hydrophobic. I do use the vision in my water, and that Along with the fact that I use a high flow rate helps me clean this type of glass just as fast.

 

3 mill (wider ) pencil jets with my flow controller set at 085 which gives me just under 3 litres per minute at the brush head.

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cheapncheerful

your right but....im still hybrid so I alternate according to mood....and er...glass likeability.

 

all trad tomorrow for a change...:D

 

probably regret not having it in the car when I get there and it starts raining...:D

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Duncs
yep duncs really really annoying though when its caught as I have no tap and I hate wasting my water...

 

yeh you have to fly its true..:D

get tap on top of pole makes all the difference cheap

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Duncs
dont be too worried about those companies that try to take over the world ive seen it alot they usually pack up like they came in a flash.

 

my mate had a steady round for years and then these new kids came and started making a big scene, one day they even came over to him saying sell us your round or loose all your customers to us cos we are the next best thing!!! well sure enough 3 months down they just dissapeard.

bellends eh

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tiktik

i once put dishwasher polisher liquid in my bucket to squeegee a shop and it made a cool shiny effect

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Poles Apart

It would take me 15 mins at least to do that job on the video but I am more thorough I'm not criticising as he may have forgot but the middle top window wasn't rinsed, I work only with back packs as I have tried all, Trolley, van mount and b/pack and find back pack quicker given all the pros and cons, currently I am emptying 25 litre containers into 2 backpacks but going to get a tank fitted with a bilge pump to fill backpacks that will reduce the need to lift and empty heavy containers. I have a technique that works well, I have the backpack set on full flow but use a pole tap I brush the frames and glass on a low or medium flow then rinse on full it's the rinsing that's 75% of the job.

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Guybrush

Thanks for the video Jonathan. You make that look so easy and effortless.

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Keir999

You missed the front of the house jonathan !

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peter rogers

at end of the dy if a customer chooses to go with someone else its there decision

 

if like me u do a great job are on time chat to them when u see them and be polite u shudnt lose customers

 

if u do its not ur fault its there fault

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Tuffers
It would take me 15 mins at least to do that job on the video but I am more thorough I'm not criticising as he may have forgot but the middle top window wasn't rinsed, I work only with back packs as I have tried all, Trolley, van mount and b/pack and find back pack quicker given all the pros and cons, currently I am emptying 25 litre containers into 2 backpacks but going to get a tank fitted with a bilge pump to fill backpacks that will reduce the need to lift and empty heavy containers. I have a technique that works well, I have the backpack set on full flow but use a pole tap I brush the frames and glass on a low or medium flow then rinse on full it's the rinsing that's 75% of the job.

 

I noticed he didn't rinse the glass over the conny too. Maybe he will say he rinsed on the glass for that one?

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Poles Apart
I noticed he didn't rinse the glass over the conny too. Maybe he will say he rinsed on the glass for that one?

Yep was on about the one over the conny, my lady is the best window cleaner in the world and noticed it first. The problem with this video as well is it's "ideal world" work, no cars in the way or snagging no clutter in the garden or cr*p and no houses to go through or gulleys, some of my work takes 10 minutes to access. Also earning ten pound for that doesn't mean he's earning £60 an hour, he may have to drive to the next job and set up or any manner of things that mean your not continually window cleaning it's not as simple as that.

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peter rogers

theres plant pots an that to get snagged on etc

 

 

also we all have houses in rows i myself have one street all 10 pound ones 13 houses i get done in 2 half hours

 

then theres other ones i do and its one here one there jobs

 

all this about making xx per hour is upto who u are were ur jobs are and how tight they are togther

 

also i think he done a perfect jobbie on the back windows

wouldnt be as fast if

it were first clean

if the pigeons were playing target practice out back

etc etc

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Natty1972

Back to your thread , I personally think your have been undercut . Whether you use vision or not .....but changing just for the shine mmmmmmmmm

 

 

Vision is good for rinsing .....I used it for three months .. Had issues with the storage of it ... The inducer way looks a very good way of using it , I would have no storage issues then . Mmmmmm

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