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MCWC
Just now, wezza13 said:

 

I carry a nice, clean pair of trainers that I use for interiors.

Oh clever nice pair of waterproof for outside and clean shoes for inside 

 

So shopping list for the weekend then trad gear step shoes and resin

Lost always seems to find a way to grow doesn't it

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wezza13
Just now, MCWC said:

Oh clever nice pair of waterproof for outside and clean shoes for inside 

 

So shopping list for the weekend then trad gear step shoes and resin

Lost always seems to find a way to grow doesn't it

 

It certainly does! 🙂

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Tango
15 hours ago, wezza13 said:

 

I carry a nice, clean pair of trainers that I use for interiors.

 

I just bought some disposable shoe covers from ebay. They just slip right over the footware and mean you can go inside with minimal fuss. They're also handy on the trolley wheels too...

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mike007
8 hours ago, Tango said:

 

I just bought some disposable shoe covers from ebay. They just slip right over the footware and mean you can go inside with minimal fuss. They're also handy on the trolley wheels too...

I have disposables too....never thought of using on the trolley wheels....GENIUS!

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wezza13
12 hours ago, Tango said:

 

I just bought some disposable shoe covers from ebay. They just slip right over the footware and mean you can go inside with minimal fuss. They're also handy on the trolley wheels too...

 

I used to use those but they can (and do) split sometimes. Wouldn't want that to happen on a nice white carpet!

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MCWC

Is there any particular brand of resin I should go for or are they all pretty much the same I see the most popular are tulson and unger

Tried to call my local supplier but they don't do weekends apparently shame wanted to get sorted today

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dmw
1 hour ago, MCWC said:

Is there any particular brand of resin I should go for or are they all pretty much the same I see the most popular are tulson and unger

Tried to call my local supplier but they don't do weekends apparently shame wanted to get sorted today

Tulsion MB 115. is what seems to be the most popular and long lasting, just make sure you go to a reputable supplier like Daqua or Gardiner's as there are a few  dodgy suppliers selling inferior resin as Tulsion.

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MCWC

My wife has suggested a method of potentially boosting growth 

She has suggested that I give a free clean to someone who has provided 2/3 referrals she said if only 10 customers do it then that's an extra 20/30 customers and if tonly 10/ do it again out of that then that's another 20/30 customers with those numbers that would be great as I'm still using the family bus to transport my equipment to and from work places but as I still work full time and the dark nights will be rolling in quickly then I fear I wouldn't manage to get to do the work but also want to grow as quickly as reasonably possible so I can rely. On window cleaning to pay the bills and do it full time

 

What do you think is it a good idea especially as reading over the forum that this tie of year is usually a slow period of growth and spring a d summer are quicker I was hoping if I had enough to cover what I earn now over wi ter then when spring and summer time comes I could start trimming the work and only take the jobs that's worth it instead of taking any at the min

 

TIA guys

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Skxawng
35 minutes ago, MCWC said:

My wife has suggested a method of potentially boosting growth 

She has suggested that I give a free clean to someone who has provided 2/3 referrals she said if only 10 customers do it then that's an extra 20/30 customers and if tonly 10/ do it again out of that then that's another 20/30 customers with those numbers that would be great as I'm still using the family bus to transport my equipment to and from work places but as I still work full time and the dark nights will be rolling in quickly then I fear I wouldn't manage to get to do the work but also want to grow as quickly as reasonably possible so I can rely. On window cleaning to pay the bills and do it full time

 

What do you think is it a good idea especially as reading over the forum that this tie of year is usually a slow period of growth and spring a d summer are quicker I was hoping if I had enough to cover what I earn now over wi ter then when spring and summer time comes I could start trimming the work and only take the jobs that's worth it instead of taking any at the min

 

TIA guys

If you've got time on your hands at the moment then whatever gets you customers is fine. A free clean for 2 referrals (could do 1/2 price for 1?) Is cheap for a new customer compared to buying work or even lead generation. Or another way of looking at it is 15 mins work (or however long it takes) for 2 new customers.

This is better than the other way which is giving new customers a free first clean, as that's the most difficult. The free clean is a regular maintenance clean which is fast but you can still charge extra for the first clean on the new customer.

Once you are full and don't need the work then knock the free cleans on the head though.

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MCWC
37 minutes ago, Skxawng said:

 

Once you are full and don't need the work then knock the free cleans on the head though.

 

Yea I was. Thinking of testing the water in November with this one as I was having a competition on Facebook for a Halloween hamper to get more likes and shares on the page which has worked to some extent but not much work came from it

 

But I may start this week with it u know the sooner the better and end it at the end of November maybe

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Pane

Id personally be very dubious about "giving cleans away".Its a business for a reason.Work out how much FREE cleans'll cost you,then decide..A discount,fair enough maybe..

E.G..Initial clean say £20 then £15 after that...as there's a reason for doing so.Helps to encourage Client base interest mate.

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MCWC

I was thinking that too was really. On the fense about doing it to be honest but I was thinking a small short term loss for a long term gain

Was thinking t&cs was that people had to sign up to regular cleans to qualify to safeguard against just gett a one and done then be back to square one and then was also thinking we'll if I'm doing as good a job as I think I am then I should be converting those ones anyway really need to think but I believe there is merit in the idea 

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Tango
On 12/10/2019 at 08:06, mike007 said:

I have disposables too....never thought of using on the trolley wheels....GENIUS!

 

Heh, one of the perks of being desperate is you come up with a lot of problem solves in unusual ways lol.

 

I figured carrying a trolley weighing 30kg through someones house wasn't practical.. but neither was leaving marks from the wheels all over the carpet. Whats good for the shoe is good for the wheel..

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Pane

Hey Tango.Dont forget the trolley on wheels might weigh 30 kgs...then upto 50 kgs of Pure Water inside..thats nearly 80 (even) kgs mate!...

As long as youve got an extended water line,to go via someones house.Should be ok.

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Pjj
11 hours ago, Tango said:

 

Heh, one of the perks of being desperate is you come up with a lot of problem solves in unusual ways lol.

 

I figured carrying a trolley weighing 30kg through someones house wasn't practical.. but neither was leaving marks from the wheels all over the carpet. Whats good for the shoe is good for the wheel..


 

would it not be easier to take the hose through the house and leave the trolley out the front that’s what I did years ago , don’t do that type of work any more though but if starting out that’s how I would do it 

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Pane

Thats excatly what i implied pjj...An extended water line via the clients house...

Pjj,if you dont do that type of work anymore,what type do you do then ?.

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Pjj
2 hours ago, Pane said:

Thats excatly what i implied pjj...An extended water line via the clients house...

Pjj,if you dont do that type of work anymore,what type do you do then ?.


 

we won’t go through customers houses to access the backs , most where I am are semis or detached so not generally a problem , if doing rows of terraced houses we only do the fronts , I find it to time consuming and the customer needs to be in so we won’t do them any more 

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Davit
22 hours ago, MCWC said:

Was thinking t&cs was that people had to sign up to regular cleans to qualify to safeguard against just gett a one and done then be back to square one

 

You might struggle to get folks to agree to any sort of terms & conditions... Especially those "off the grid" kind of customers who only pay by cash and you don't even know their name 😂

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Pjj

Evan if they agree to it try enforcing it it’s never worth the hassle and would cost a fortune 

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Pane
36 minutes ago, Pjj said:


 

we won’t go through customers houses to access the backs , most where I am are semis or detached so not generally a problem , if doing rows of terraced houses we only do the fronts , I find it to time consuming and the customer needs to be in so we won’t do them any more 

Fair play Pjj.Unfortunately,theres quite a few of them about.As you say,just the front,if at all.

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Davy G

I no longer take on jobs that involve going through the house, either. I still have some but as I say I'm not taking any more on. They are a pain, what with folk needing to be in, doors banging in the wind and trying not to get carpets dirty.

I'm lucky enough to have enough work with semi's, detached etc. Though I fully understand that folk starting out might not have the luxury of turning down work that may not be ideal. 

 

I'd say for anyone canvassing; don't necessarily accept or target everything and anything. I'd target the areas and house types that you would like to be working with long term, if possible. 

1 hour ago, Davit said:

 

You might struggle to get folks to agree to any sort of terms & conditions... Especially those "off the grid" kind of customers who only pay by cash and you don't even know their name 😂

Nowt wrong with the Queen's currency, Davit. 😁

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Tango
18 hours ago, Pane said:

Hey Tango.Dont forget the trolley on wheels might weigh 30 kgs...then upto 50 kgs of Pure Water inside..thats nearly 80 (even) kgs mate!...

As long as youve got an extended water line,to go via someones house.Should be ok.

 

I use the gardiner back pack on a clarke strong arm folding trolley. Back pack is around 8kg empty i think, + 23L of water (at around 1kg per L) so that's around 31Kg. Okay.. the trolley weighs around 7 too so around 38 i think all in at a push..

 

13 hours ago, Pjj said:

would it not be easier to take the hose through the house and leave the trolley out the front that’s what I did years ago , don’t do that type of work any more though but if starting out that’s how I would do it 

 

Gardiner say the BP should be limited to 20m of hose. Besides, how on earth would I do the rear door with the hose going through it? - couldn't close it properly! Must confess though I did wonder about doing it this way after reading a few other users saying they use longer lengths of hose than recommended but all the time i still had a warranty on the pump i wasn't going to be doing that.

 

I still need to hack a remote control into it. Apparently the pure freedom trolley already has one, can't see why Alex hasn't done this too but i'll hack my own in at some point when i can afford some 3.3v regulator chips for the RF transceivers lol.

 

Admittedly though i can't really be bothered with terraced houses and do try to avoid them but i will do them if requested but i won't knock on their doors.

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wezza13
5 hours ago, Tango said:

 

Gardiner say the BP should be limited to 20m of hose. Besides, how on earth would I do the rear door with the hose going through it? - couldn't close it properly!

 

Do the back door by hand - spray some purified water on it (out of a spray bottle) then wipe with microfibre cloth to get all the dirt off, then finish with a glass scrim. 

 

Or, do what I do, and unclip the microbore from inside the pole and feed hose through a letterbox or cat-flap then reattach.

 

If you're unable to do those, then get the customer to hold the door shut, just enough to allow your hose to be through but not pinched 👍

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Pane
50 minutes ago, wezza13 said:

 

Do the back door by hand - spray some purified water on it (out of a spray bottle) then wipe with microfibre cloth to get all the dirt off, then finish with a glass scrim. 

 

Or, do what I do, and unclip the microbore from inside the pole and feed hose through a letterbox or cat-flap then reattach.

 

If you're unable to do those, then get the customer to hold the door shut, just enough to allow your hose to be through but not pinched 👍

To be honest guys.With all the above advice,me included.I think in future,i'll be sticking with houses i can get round with an opening a side gate or detached.Unless of course,owners approach me.Havent got time to mess about to be fair.Im trying to build a business up.If their abhorrent about it,i wont bother,nice about it.Then i'll have alook & may do it.They could recommend.

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Pjj
6 hours ago, Tango said:

 

I use the gardiner back pack on a clarke strong arm folding trolley. Back pack is around 8kg empty i think, + 23L of water (at around 1kg per L) so that's around 31Kg. Okay.. the trolley weighs around 7 too so around 38 i think all in at a push..

 

 

Gardiner say the BP should be limited to 20m of hose. Besides, how on earth would I do the rear door with the hose going through it? - couldn't close it properly! Must confess though I did wonder about doing it this way after reading a few other users saying they use longer lengths of hose than recommended but all the time i still had a warranty on the pump i wasn't going to be doing that.

 

I still need to hack a remote control into it. Apparently the pure freedom trolley already has one, can't see why Alex hasn't done this too but i'll hack my own in at some point when i can afford some 3.3v regulator chips for the RF transceivers lol.

 

Admittedly though i can't really be bothered with terraced houses and do try to avoid them but i will do them if requested but i won't knock on their doors.


 

you just shut the hose in the corner of the door , and don’t dead lock it don’t usually have a problem, but I agree it’s not ideal . But will do the job 

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Skxawng
On 23/10/2019 at 08:19, Pjj said:


 

you just shut the hose in the corner of the door , and don’t dead lock it don’t usually have a problem, but I agree it’s not ideal . But will do the job 

If it's an inward opening door, I find it works well if you trap the hose in the top corner rather than the bottom because then the door doesn't let water in.

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MCWC

I'm sure this has been covered but I keep getting confused 

Was just updating the books and putting down expenses asd income and stuff and obviously if I buy new gear like poles/van/trolley/trad gear it's a business expense 

My confusion is travel expenses I read online the standard is 45p a mile and I only put that to the destination not back is that right

Eg if house is 20 miles away is that a 40 mile trip or 20 keep in mind thst I some days only have the o e house to do as I'm still full time in my other job and honestly can't fit more in because of shift pattern and returning to pick up gear and travelling to them

 

Thanks in advance guys

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Part Timer

Full journey, legally you're supposed to keep a list of where you have actually driven to. This is a full itinerary, so 1st house mileage, second house etc. Before everyone says they don't do this and haven't been asked to by their Accountant, if you get inspected by the tax man and he deems your claim to be high he will ask you where you have been. Not remembering isn't an excuse. 

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MCWC

OK great full journey 

Remembering shouldn't be a  problem using the squeegee app so it has the details saved in there 

And I'm aware that I would charge for Eg 10 for the first house then the distance between it and the next house which is handy the squeegee app gives me the distance between there too I know some people on here have had problems or issues with it but maybe I'm just not big enough to be experiencing those issues yet

 

Took your advice part timer too bought some trad gear to do some internal cleans and then also thought it may also be a bonus over the winter incase of a bad winter and don't want to be leaving puddles on the ground to freeze for people to fall on so maybe trad them and sprinkle a little salt underneath the windows for the drips 

But wajt to use to stop the water freezing on the glass (hopefully it doesn't happen but failing to prepare and all that) someone advised buying the windscreen solution and using it I know halfords sell one that has a up to -10 as bought it a couple years back fory car didn't much like the scent put on it though 

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MCWC

How is all my fellow newbies finding their first winter so far

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