Rough guide price

Hey any rough ideas on pricing? All cladding , signs and windows. Building is 60 meters front and back and sides 15 meters . Mate of mine runs it so won't go anywhere else so don't want to over price but don't want the fall short  ?

Just charge your daily rate and then work out how long it’ll take you.

Before you can price or work out how long a job will take there are a lot of questions to  ask . 

What does the dirt consist of on the building ? 

What is the building construction? 

Does it have to be cleaned out of normal working hours ? 

Will you have to work around all the vehicles or will they be out of the way ? 

How many people will be working with you ? 

Have you got to cordon off the area providing the nessasary barriers ? 

Does the company have a health and safety police that you have to work to ? 

Theses are just a few of the things to take into consideration with this type of job .

Have you done  a test panel so you can guarantee that you can clean it ok ?. Many bite off more than they can chew with this type of job and find they cannot remove the grey tiger stripes , we have been called in on a few jobs like this where someone else has not been able to achieve satisfactory results,so make sure you can actually remove the dirt and the staining that will more than likely be on this type surface . 

If you haven’t done a job on this scale before it might be better to try something smaller first , to get some experience, or get someone to help you that has experience of this type of work , good luck with the quote , if you get the job take plenty of pictures it will be very good for your portfolio.

They often get the internals done as well. If he's your mate then start off by saying I would like to get £600?? what's your idea of a price. Personally find, where I am, these are either cleaned by one of the big Nationals, poorly, or every Tom, **** and Harry chases the work.

Part Timer said:

They often get the internals done as well. If he's your mate then start off by saying I would like to get £600?? what's your idea of a price. Personally find, where I am, these are either cleaned by one of the big Nationals, poorly, or every Tom, **** and Harry chases the work.

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£600 have you missed off a “0” ??? you cannot clean that for £600 we charge that for a 4 bed detached , got to be minimum of 2:5k surely ?. 

Pjj said:

£600 have you missed off a “0” ??? you cannot clean that for £600 we charge that for a 4 bed detached , got to be minimum of 2:5k surely ?. 

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You might get that down your way but wouldn't get 4 figures up here. I'm assuming it's a relatively easy maintenance clean, no chemicals, not some oil stained mess. Days work for 2 people if cleaned when cars are moved. Bought a new car for my wife this time last year and that showroom, glass only, was being done for £100 and there was more glass then on that one pictured.

Pjj said:

£600 have you missed off a “0” ??? you cannot clean that for £600 we charge that for a 4 bed detached , got to be minimum of 2:5k surely ?. 

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With you being a millionaire window cleaner do you still go out and clean ? 

Part Timer said:

You might get that down your way but wouldn't get 4 figures up here. I'm assuming it's a relatively easy maintenance clean, no chemicals, not some oil stained mess. Days work for 2 people if cleaned when cars are moved. Bought a new car for my wife this time last year and that showroom, glass only, was being done for £100 and there was more glass then on that one pictured.

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I was pricing for the whole of the building external cladding and all windows , usually that cladding has difficult  remove tiger stripes we did a vw dealership half the size of the one in the picture years ago and it took two days with two people Ime too embarrassed to say what I charged but let’s say it was a sharp learning curve ???

Wind o kleen said:

With you being a millionaire window cleaner do you still go out and clean ? 

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Yes on the tools every day 

Part Timer said:

You might get that down your way but wouldn't get 4 figures up here. I'm assuming it's a relatively easy maintenance clean, no chemicals, not some oil stained mess. Days work for 2 people if cleaned when cars are moved. Bought a new car for my wife this time last year and that showroom, glass only, was being done for £100 and there was more glass then on that one pictured.

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Glass only in and out would be around £150-200 , the timecand money is on the building clean 

Wind o kleen said:

With you being a millionaire window cleaner do you still go out and clean ? 

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I wish ??

From the picture it appears to be plastic clad. The vast majority of modern car showrooms are kept very clean. Obviously if it's very dirty with tiger stripes it then falls into the specialist clean and the price would be substantially more. This is one of the reasons why people asking for advice really need to provide far more information then we currently have. 

Part Timer said:

From the picture it appears to be plastic clad. The vast majority of modern car showrooms are kept very clean. Obviously if it's very dirty with tiger stripes it then falls into the specialist clean and the price would be substantially more. This is one of the reasons why people asking for advice really need to provide far more information then we currently have. 

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We have done  a few car showrooms most have been plastic coated aluminium panels that have black tiger stripes on them and Louvre type of sun shade above the windows that are very difficult to clean mostly vw dealers ,audi ,the tiger stripes are difficult to remove I have now found a product that works well . The windows are also a pain as they have big ledges that hold the water and it has to be swept off or it leaves bad runs down the glass again it’s very time consuming . We generally do them long hours over a weekend , and charge accordingly, that’s why I said starting price of 2:5 k I wouldn’t consider   doing something for anything less preferably a lot more , and wouldn’t be worried if we didn’t get the job , I don’t think that’s expensive , I know another member on  hear pm me with pictures of a commercial building  and he charged a lot more than 2:5 k , so it’s not just me being expensive others charge very similar to me for this type of work . 

Hi

If you need 4 hours to do it, charge 20 euro per hour for work & another 20 euro for equipment

160 euro plus vat for 4 hours project

If you trade as an LTD, you need to charge double that to cover taxes, insurances, accountant fee

Sofa Cleaning Dublin said:

Hi

If you need 4 hours to do it, charge 20 euro per hour for work & another 20 euro for equipment

160 euro plus vat for 4 hours project

If you trade as an LTD, you need to charge double that to cover taxes, insurances, accountant fees, etc

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So are you saying if you arnt  ltd that you don’t pay tax , and don’t have insurance , or an accountant???? The expenses are the same just if you are vat registers it will be + vat 

Hi

Well as a sole trader you dont have as many expenses and if you earn under 32k you dont have vat neither. As a sole trader you don`t need an office or an accountant. You can do self assessment. 

I don`t know about you, but my accountant fees are over 350 euro per month. When i was working as a sole trader i was doing my own taxes. Also the insurance, i now pay 3700 euro per year, but when i was a sole trader i was paying 650 per year. I do think that all costs are higher for LTDs so you need to charge more

When you work as a sole trader you are likely to do most of the work on your own while most LTD owners pay workers to do jobs.

Sofa Cleaning Dublin said:

Hi

Well as a sole trader you dont have as many expenses and if you earn under 32k you dont have vat neither. As a sole trader you don`t need an office or an accountant. You can do self assessment. 

I don`t know about you, but my accountant fees are over 350 euro per month. When i was working as a sole trader i was doing my own taxes. Also the insurance, i now pay 3700 euro per year, but when i was a sole trader i was paying 650 per year. I do think that all costs are higher for LTDs so you need to charge more

When you work as a sole trader you are likely to do most of the work on your own while most LTD owners pay workers to do jobs.

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I think your taxation in Ireland must be different to ours our vat registration is around 84k per year , I have no idear how you are paying an accountant that much per month I pay mine around £800 per year , again my insurance costs are around £1000 per year , I have always had an account and do my books from day one and for a sole trader I believe the avarage yearly bill to be between £350-600 , things must be different where you are ?... 

Sofa Cleaning Dublin said:

Hi

Well as a sole trader you dont have as many expenses and if you earn under 32k you dont have vat neither. As a sole trader you don`t need an office or an accountant. You can do self assessment. 

I don`t know about you, but my accountant fees are over 350 euro per month. When i was working as a sole trader i was doing my own taxes. Also the insurance, i now pay 3700 euro per year, but when i was a sole trader i was paying 650 per year. I do think that all costs are higher for LTDs so you need to charge more

When you work as a sole trader you are likely to do most of the work on your own while most LTD owners pay workers to do jobs.

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Over here those bills would equate to a company turning over £500k+ a year 

Hi

Is called RIP OFF Ireland. There are 2 companies providing insurance in Ireland and about 100 brokers. If you get refused by one, you are screwed. The cleaning industry is a nightmare to insure. People are claiming for any ****

***my wife had her insurance costs doubled because someone has crashed in her car. The claim she has against the other part will take easy 2 years. In this time her insurance costs will go up until the claim is settled. The insurance assumes that it can be both parts fault even if my wife jeep was smashed from behind. A good little scam. Or even more interesting, if you move your office from x address to y address and you don`t inform your insurance fast, you are not insured. Even if your office is just a post box***

The turnover you have estimated is about right. We have a cleaning products supply website, a carpet cleaning company & a floor sanding company. Well spotted



Hi

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Keeping overhead expenses low is important for every business, but especially for SMEs where the budget is that bit more restricted. Having an in-house company accountant or accountancy team can be a very costly overhead for a small business. Of course, many companies would say the expense is worth it considering an accountant is not only employed for basic bookkeeping services, but for their financial knowledge with regards to tax deductions, credit control, and budgeting. With a financial advisor on your side, you can make more informed decision-making, save time and tackle those long-term goals head-on. But is there a more cost-effective way of fulfilling your accountancy function? Ultimately, are you getting a good deal?


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Going by the estimate market value, a company should be paying 4% of the turnover in accountant fees.

So i am doing well.