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Constant Dead ending and or low pressure. Help.

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Spartan

Hi Lads,

 

i need some helping  out as as to what my problem is exactly and best way to sort it. (Title pretty much explains it)

 

ive just added a second hose reel, pump, controller etc and when starting it either has low pressure or dead ends every 10 seconds or so.

the other reel etc is all working fine. 

The hose isn’t kinked, it’s a full tank of water but the pressure is about half or 30% of what the main one I use. Also it dead ends continually!

Eventually it improves but after any sort of break in the work it starts playing up again.

 

heres a couple of pics of the system (it’s just a delivery system, no RO or DI)

The problem one is the one with the clear hosing.

 

Any suggestions or help would be great fully received - it’s driving me crackers.

 

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spruce

Sounds like a calibration issue to me. What controllers are you using as they aren't shown?

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Spartan
18 minutes ago, spruce said:

Sounds like a calibration issue to me. What controllers are you using as they aren't shown?

 

It's the digital ones, just says  'eco Flo regulator' purchased from daqua.

It's the same as my other one just branded differently.

Both controllers are calibrated to the same amount and only one is playing up.

The controllers aren’t visible because they’re behind a black panel.

 

What about the low pressure even when I'm not having a dead ending problem?

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27 minutes ago, Spartan said:

Hi Lads,

 

i need some helping  out as as to what my problem is exactly and best way to sort it. (Title pretty much explains it)

 

ive just added a second hose reel, pump, controller etc and when starting it either has low pressure or dead ends every 10 seconds or so.

the other reel etc is all working fine. 

The hose isn’t kinked, it’s a full tank of water but the pressure is about half or 30% of what the main one I use. Also it dead ends continually!

Eventually it improves but after any sort of break in the work it starts playing up again.

 

heres a couple of pics of the system (it’s just a delivery system, no RO or DI)

The problem one is the one with the clear hosing.

 

Any suggestions or help would be great fully received - it’s driving me crackers.

 

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what a mess!.......i wouldnt have hoses,wires and connectors right over the battery like that......

 

itll be your CALIBRATION.......SET IT HIGHER.....

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Jango

Just a thought, you have a lot of connections could air be getting in. 

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spruce
54 minutes ago, Spartan said:

 

It's the digital ones, just says  'eco Flo regulator' purchased from daqua.

It's the same as my other one just branded differently.

Both controllers are calibrated to the same amount and only one is playing up.

The controllers aren’t visible because they’re behind a black panel.

 

What about the low pressure even when I'm not having a dead ending problem?

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I am a little confused regarding what you say that they are both set at the same calibration. My gut is telling me that you are mixing up flow rate with calibration/pressure settings.

 

Follow the auto-calibration instructions on Youtube and see if there is a difference. Don't forget to connect your pole up to your hose reel and select a flow rate on the controller you find best to work at first.

 

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Davy G

My suspicion is it's likely to be one of the following:

 

1/  Air in the system. You could try taking a single suction hose from the tank, through the filler aperture to the pump, remove the hose going into the reel, switch the pump on and if necessary suck the water through. Keep it going until there's no spluttering of air and re-connect to the reel.. If that works reconnect the original hose making sure that all connections are absolutely airtight.

 

2/ As other have said "calibration", though it seems strange as the calibration is set the same as the other pump.

 

Good luck, and please let us know what the problem was when it's sorted.

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Iron Giant
13 hours ago, Spartan said:

It's the same as my other one just branded differently.

Both controllers are calibrated to the same amount and only one is playing up.


As above check for air in the system, but regarding controllers and Cal, on my old system the highest my Cal was ever set was 39 on my new system I had fitted last year my Cal is currently around 69, connect everything up and turn water on with water coming out of the brush head and if you get a pressure drop increase the Cal mine would it can take a few minutes of just standing and waiting for low pressure/ flow to reduce and increase the Cal until the right setting has been found and water flows from the brush head as expected. 

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9 hours ago, Davy G said:

My suspicion is it's likely to be one of the following:

 

1/  Air in the system. You could try taking a single suction hose from the tank, through the filler aperture to the pump, remove the hose going into the reel, switch the pump on and if necessary suck the water through. Keep it going until there's no spluttering of air and re-connect to the reel.. If that works reconnect the original hose making sure that all connections are absolutely airtight.

 

2/ As other have said "calibration", though it seems strange as the calibration is set the same as the other pump.

 

Good luck, and please let us know what the problem was when it's sorted.

I'm having a problem with @Spartan's comment " What about the low pressure even when I'm not having a dead ending problem?"

If he's not having a dead end problem then he isn't having a pressure problem.

If as he says both controllers are calibrated the same and he has reduced flow with the new controller, then the flow rate could be down to the hose. We have 2 reels on the van, 1 with microbore and the other minibore. There is a noticeable difference in flow rate between the two on the same controller using rather cold water atm.

 

If air was being sucked into the system it would manifest itself with spluttering as the brush end. He should be able to see if air is getting into the system as he is using clear plastic pipe on that pump.

 

My Lad just can't understand the difference between flow and pressure with regard to our Varistreams. He's not the only one as the calibration topic is raised often on the forums.

He continually says my pressure is too high when he is talking about my flow rate setting.

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Spartan
16 hours ago, spruce said:

Sounds like a calibration issue to me. What controllers are you using as they aren't shown?

 

Thanks guys, I'll try the suggestions later in the week and report back.

Appreciate all the input. 🙂

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