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CW90

Hi, just doing a bit of research into how much it's going to cost to get a half decent wfp system. Got all the trad stuff but think it's time to look in to getting a wfp.

 

What's the best road to go down? Trolley or backpack? Am leaning more towards the trolley as I think it would be easier for me. But looking for people experiences :smile:

 

Also are you better buying a 'starter' kit off the shelf or are you better building one yourself like this

And getting more for your money? For off the shelve stuff does anyone have any recommendations on what to look at?

 

Also poles and brushes. Have read up a lot about these, but seems to be quite a lot of mixed reviews on certain things. Anyone got any recommendations?

 

Not really got a budget just looking to get the best for my money. And have found from past experiences that most expensive stuff isn't.

 

Thanks for any help or advice :smile:

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JDMW

backpack on a trolly is the best option imho. i still use one today. i also have a van system but thats more a backup route.

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Ade

I been wfp for 4-5 weeks now and use a big boy back pack ( window cleaning warehouse )

put this on a cheap caravaning trolley and bungee on or carry sometimes

bought backpack with a pole set up as a complete package about £250 just add pure water

brush was a bit naff so just added a lovely flocked dt gardiner brush ( pure quality )

pole works well (22ft facelift hybrid) however only pole i have ever used & for my round i kinda wish i'd gone longer, say 30ft

depends on your water tds level as to how you purify water

for ease u can just get di vessel & resin but may work out expensive (i now run twin di to utilise resin to the max)

i carry water in my car in 25ltr barrels & top up backpack as needed

i kinda only use wfp on upstairs & trad downstairs

would hazard a guess whatever route u go down u will find pro's and cons, & diff things that u will undoubtably have to tweak

good look in your chosen foray

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JDMW

ade i think facelift are bringing extra sections out for our facelift poles. i have the same pole as you and i wish i had gone one section more.

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CW90

Thanks guys. Yeah I have been looking at the bag packs and seems like a good place to start. Or just build my own one as I have a bit of spare time just now.

 

As for poles what sort of length would I be best to get? I have measured it out and 25ft should be more then enough. But would bee it to reach 3 up, so might be safer going with a 30ft one?

 

Is the flocked dt gardiner brush, a good brush to get?

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CW90

After a bit of research I think am just going to go for the WCW backpack to get me started

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JDMW

tbh all you need is a backpack pump thats 40psi, put it in a box with a backpack battery that you can get from screw fix for bout 9 quid. then some hose and use 25L barrels. i used my van system today for second time ever.

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CW90

Thanks for the help guys. Have decided to go for the backpack offer to get me started.

 

Heard to unger brush that comes with it isn't the best, is that true? Or will it do to get me started?

 

And sorry for the stupid question but what is dt mono filimeant? Am new to all this

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rs2315

 

Thanks guys. Yeah I have been looking at the bag packs and seems like a good place to start. Or just build my own one as I have a bit of spare time just now.

 

As for poles what sort of length would I be best to get? I have measured it out and 25ft should be more then enough. But would bee it to reach 3 up, so might be safer going with a 30ft one?

 

Is the flocked dt gardiner brush, a good brush to get?

 

I've got a gardiner extreme 25 pole with a 5ft extension taking it to 30ft. That gives me 35ft when I have my arms extended.

I've heard 25ft will see out 3 story work, but I think 30 is the way to go.

 

Go on the Gardiners web site and check out their Youtube vids.

Lots of info on their, good section on brushes, mono and flocked bristles explained.

 

HTH.

 

rs2315.

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CW90

Have had a look at the burshes.

 

Is this the ones you guys are talking about?

 

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-Super-Lite--Brush-Dual-Trim-Flocked-Standard-Splay-BRUSH_YELLOW.html

 

or

 

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/the-super-lite-brush-dual-trim-medium-mixed-bristles.html

 

or

 

 

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/the-super-lite-brush-dual-trim-flocked-standard-splay.html

 

 

There is so much choice when your just starting out! Also what's better in general, pencil or fan jets? :Image11:

 

Thanks for the help guy!

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CW90

Sorry guys, I might be being stupid but your links don't work for me I can't open then....

 

Thanks for the tip about the jet.

 

Just do My Windows. Thanks, looks like the best one to get from the video as well.

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JDMW

yeh its an ok brush, i have another brush but the brissles kept getting stuck in the windows so thats why i use this brush now, had it 2 yrs.

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CW90

Thanks mate. Looks like am all sorted now for the kit.

 

Just need to wait on my tds meter arriving, so I can workout if a better getting an Ro or Di setup. But am in Scotland, which from what I understand is meant to have ppm to start with then England? So might be away with a few Di's

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JDMW

every where has ppm mate. parts per million where i live changes from 240-290 at differernt times of day. i think you may get away with twin di's in scotland. be cheaper tho if you just got a 350gpd ro unit then used that. i collect rain water which comes out at 004ppm, that goes in my vans tank and then i push that rain water though an 11L di. rain water ppm is way lower than a ro unit so the resin lasts that little longer.

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Guest OoO

Yeah we are looking into the links issue :(

 

Scotland will be soft or softer water.

 

We have a PPM map pinned in this section. But can't remember if anybody from

Scotland is on it lol.

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Ade

 

ade i think facelift are bringing extra sections out for our facelift poles. i have the same pole as you and i wish i had gone one section more.

 

That would be great JDMW if i could add another section to my pole, might have to speak to the peeps at the WCW

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JDMW

have you got there book?? or chat to mike at facelift, hes on facebook

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Ade

Do u know if it would be added to the top or bottom of existing pole ?

if bottom would be great but top would be very flimsy as pole extended fully already bows loads

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JDMW

i only ever use my top section for full reach. if its just upstairs i extend the 2nd section out, its more solid then. if its a windy day i go from the bigger sections on the bottom. so my top section only gets used on 22ft windows.

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Ade

sure thing yeah, i just find awkward windows over connys on full reach hard going

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CW90

Thanks for all the advice guys!

 

Just tested my water and it's at 64 ppm so looks like I'll on need a Di vessel :Image14:

 

Is bigger better when it comes to Di's or would I be better with 2 smaller ones?

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Belfastcleaning

64ppm your lucky!!

 

But one 11lt di vessel would be plenty.. I use this and my water is 050..

 

You could wait a few months until your ppm starts to rise then buy a second di and get the max out of the resin..

 

I get approx 10-12 weeks out of my resin using roughly 700-1000 lts a week

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CW90

Yeah that's what I was thinking of doing, getting one and then get another when the ppm starts to go up.

 

Anyone got any experience of the WCW vessels? They claim to make the resin last upto 25% longer?

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