Van payload question.

[Parky]

Morning all. Doing some van home work this morning.

I'm looking at getting a PureH20 Hard water system (RO -DI) unit. I was thinking of going for 500L unit as in the catalogue it says that will give me 4-6 hours of "Working hours" the payload required for 500L (again according to the catalogue) is 1,000kg.

Now. I was hoping to sort myself out a Transit connect or a Volkswagen Caddy. Looking at the weight guides for a standard connect it's around 625kg

But then I saw this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-cleaning-van-/261618113932?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3ce9a79d8c

This lads got a 650L tank? Is it because its a different system? Or because its a high roof long wheel base van? Or am I looking at this wrong?

On another note could I get away with a smaller unit? I'd plan to be out all day 9-3/4pm once established. So dont want to get the point where i'm running out of water?

 

[Ssierragls]

A transit connect T230 LWB has a payload of 900kg, so you would be ok with a 500l tank

 

[Parky]

A transit connect T230 LWB has a payload of 900kg, so you would be ok with a 500l tank

Even though it's 1,000kg?

 

[Mwwindowcleaning]

A litre of water weighs a kg or there abouts pal

 

[Mwwindowcleaning]

http://www.onlineconversion.com/waterweight.htm

 

[Parky]

A litre of water weighs a kg or there abouts pal

of course, getting my litres and Kilograms mixed up FFS!!!! Cheers @Mwwindowcleaning :laugh:

 

[Mwwindowcleaning]

No worries, easily done fella. Your good to.go now

 

[Smurf]

@Parky what you also need to consider is not just the payload but what amount of kit you can physical fit into the back of the van including wfp kit as you mentioned that you want to get into other services. From experience I would go for a larger van myself as a connect would be way to small for the kit I need to cart about now.

 

[Parky]

@Parky what you also need to consider is not just the payload but what amount of kit you can physical fit into the back of the van including wfp kit as you mentioned that you want to get into other services. From experience I would go for a larger van myself as a connect would be way to small for the kit I need to cart about now.

Two Gardiner carbon poles, 100 metre hose reel, some signs and a few other bits. I'm only planning on being a one man band and need to keep my costs down. The bigger the van the more its going to cost me. I'll go for a smaller tank if it will last me a full day when i'm up and running.

 

[a1d4nj]

I would go with smurf and def get a bigger van. I nearly went down the connect route myself, then after measuring everything up it was not practical for the long run.

Ended up with a citreon dispatch, not the best looking of vans but so practical and good on fuel even with a full tank of 650l

 

[Smurf]

If it's just wfp window cleaning you want to concentrate on the that size will do. The problem starts when you want to get into offering other services that you mentioned then you will soon find out you can't get it all in the van.

Two Gardiner carbon poles, 100 metre hose reel, some signs and a few other bits. I'm only planning on being a one man band and need to keep my costs down. The bigger the van the more its going to cost me. I'll go for a smaller tank if it will last me a full day when i'm up and running.

 

[Tuffers]

I keep saying this, but just buy a Citroen Dispatch, Pug Partner or Fiat Scudo if you're a one man band. No need to look elsewhere :thumbsup: 3 front seats, good payload of 900kgs at least, 2 side doors and a good stereo. What else would you need?

 

[spruce]

Son in Law has a 53 plate T220 LWB which has a payload of 825 kgs. We fitted a 500 litre tank when he joined us 3 years ago but really uses it all in a day.

He carries a pair of multi purpose step ladders, his hose reel, his pole, battery and a couple of bits and bobs. On his own he is within his payload limit even with a full tank of fuel. But if I joined him in the van, my additional weight would cause him to be over weight.

I have also found that I tend to use about 350 - 400 litres of water a day on my own. I would never put a 650 liter tank in a 230 lwb Connect van.

 

[Parky]

Thanks for all the input gents. I'm very grateful and now even more confused

 

[Smurf]

I bought an old 52 plate renault master that now is getting too small for my needs so I know how you fell /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[spruce]

Your payload is the total weight you can carry in a totally empty van including fuel and the driver.

If you have a van with a payload of 800 kgs you reduce the payload with everything you put into it.

If you weigh 80kgs then your new payload is 720kgs. (Citroen and Peugeot did make a driver allowance of 75kgs in early vans, so if you owned an old Berlingo 800 LX then your payload would then be 795kgs in the above example.)

If you fill your van with 60litres of fuel your new payload would be 660kgs.

A 500 litre tank weighs about 35kgs and the frame (in our case) weighs about 15kgs. Fill it with water and your van's remaining payload is now down to 110kgs (500 litres = 500 kgs.)

Add a hose reel with minibore hose full of water of about 15kgs and a pole with brush and you probably have 92kgs of your original payload left.

You then need a leisure battery, pump and controller as well as any trad gear you use.

Add roof bars and a ladder and you will find you are getting very close to your max payload.

Add a passenger like me and you will be in trouble with your van being well overweight.

 

[abs]

If you work things out and your close to your payload limit then get a bigger van , I crashed in London a few years back in my Renault traffic I was over my payload limit and had a large trailer full of jet washing equipment , as I found out my braking limits were c##p and I made a 5 tier pile up /emoticons/sad.png

 

[Duncs]

puraclenz that just makes you think