Titan 300 ro system

[Metcalfes window cleaning]

Hi guys, just a quick one, has anyone got any reviews or recommendations on the titan300?? Thanks in advance!

 

[Smurf]

Not used one myself so can say what they are like. I will say though 300 gpd ro's are very slow to produce large volumes of pure quickly for wfp work so you would be better of getting a 4021 or 4040 ro/di setup.

 

[Metcalfes window cleaning]

Thanks mate, its got 2 pumps built into it, if that makes any difference?!

 

[Smurf]

not really no

 

[Smurf]

going by the spec http://www.premium-water-filters.com/titan300.html

 

[Smurf]

That works out at 0.78736565 ltr per min optimal performance so is slow compared to something like this..

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[Smurf]

4040 ro systems are even quicker

 

[Metcalfes window cleaning]

Nice1 smurf guna look into a 4040 then, thanks.

 

[spruce]

At the tail end of the day the 4021 is half the 4040 in size but the 4040 components don't cost that much extra. If you bought a 4021 and later wanted to increase production rates then adding another 4021 housing is the easiest option, but 2 membrane replacements further down the line are going to cost much more than a single 4040 replacement membrane.

We have been using a 4040 for the past 2 1/2 years with 50psi water pressure using an HF5 membrane. We don't use a booster pump and get around 2 litres per minute with a 50/50 pure to waste ratio. So should I need more water, which is very doubtful at this moment in time, adding a booster pump will increase production rates by a good margin.

I would also go for 20" prefilters rather than the cheaper 10" ones on a 4040 as it reduces the maintenance side of filter replacement - a 20" Fiberdyne carbon block prefilter has a service life of 78,000 litres where as the same Fiberdyne filter in 10" has a 38,000 liter service life. A 10" Fiberdyne replacement filter cost half the price a 20" does so there isn't a component cost advantage.

In the good old days before the 4040 we had a 450GPD RoMan type r/o. I 'fired' it up the other day and boy is it slow. So I can imagine that a 300GPD is going to be even slower. The only reason why we just managed with a 450GPD is that is was a static system and so could run all the time and switch off automatically when the IBC tank was full.

 

[Metcalfes window cleaning]

Nice one lads for all the info! Spruce, which 4040 would you recommend then or are they all more or less the same? Looking at the gardiner prf unit at the min..

 

[spruce]

Look at what Doug at www.daqua.co.uk has. He has one for £533.99.

http://www.daqua.co.uk/ro_systems.htm

I see that Daqua is now selling the long service life carbon block which has a very high service life for a 10" filter. I haven't seen it before on there - Interesting.

Vyair have been also doing something similar slightly cheaper,

http://www.vyair.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=370

They have the larger prefilter housings but are only including standard (not so good) carbon block filters. Vyair do sell a different brand of 4040 housing which is cheaper than the more common Champ housing, so this is why they are cheaper - cheaper housing and inferior prefilters.

Guys have had good service from both these companies. but I would go with Dougs, albeit a little more expensive. But that's my opinion and according to my experience. I have never bought anything from Vyair but I have from Daqua.

 

[Greener]

Look at what Doug at www.daqua.co.uk has. He has one for £533.99.
http://www.daqua.co.uk/ro_systems.htm

I see that Daqua is now selling the long service life carbon block which has a very high service life for a 10" filter. I haven't seen it before on there - Interesting.

Vyair have been also doing something similar slightly cheaper,

http://www.vyair.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=370

They have the larger prefilter housings but are only including standard (not so good) carbon block filters. Vyair do sell a different brand of 4040 housing which is cheaper than the more common Champ housing, so this is why they are cheaper - cheaper housing and inferior prefilters.

Guys have had good service from both these companies. but I would go with Dougs, albeit a little more expensive. But that's my opinion and according to my experience. I have never bought anything from Vyair but I have from Daqua.

HI spruce, Im looking to upgrade to a 4040 system really soon, ive attached a photo of my current system a 450gpd set up. if i was to purchase the Daqua system, how easy do you think it would be to install into my van and how much of the old system do you think ill be able to utilize?

 


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[spruce]

You won't be able to use the prefilters as they have 1/4" pipe fittings and won't allow enough water through to allow a 4040 to work properly.

You can still utilise to solenoid cutoff.

Best thing is to look at a PureFreedom system with r/o and go from there. 2 x 20 prefilters with 1/2" hose fittings, a 4040 champ housing across the top or vertically held on with housing clamps, a gatevalve which is to throttle back the waste and to use as a flush valve. You will also need a Di vessel. PureFreedom supply their unit with a 6.5 Litre (6" x 18") unit which is fine. Its what we have got.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/650L-FULLY-FITTED-WATER-FED-POLE-WINDOW-CLEANING-SYSTEM-/250667389976?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3a5cf0d418

You don't need the booster pump. At 50 psi our 4040 produces 2 litres of pure a minute with a 50/50 waste to pure ratio using an hf5 membrane.

The other solution is to invest in a second hand ibc tank and set it up in a shed or your garage.It then becomes a static system and you can use it to process water all through the day whilst you are out working using your current r/o. Pump it to your van's tank with a submersible pump and a length of hose.

A 450 GPD did 2 of us (2 vans) for about 5 years before we upgraded to a 4040 when we added a part time cleaner to help and didn't have enough water.

 

[Greener]

You won't be able to use the prefilters as they have 1/4" pipe fittings and won't allow enough water through to allow a 4040 to work properly.
You can still utilise to solenoid cutoff.

Best thing is to look at a PureFreedom system with r/o and go from there. 2 x 20 prefilters with 1/2" hose fittings, a 4040 champ housing across the top or vertically held on with housing clamps, a gatevalve which is to throttle back the waste and to use as a flush valve. You will also need a Di vessel. PureFreedom supply their unit with a 6.5 Litre (6" x 18") unit which is fine. Its what we have got.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/650L-FULLY-FITTED-WATER-FED-POLE-WINDOW-CLEANING-SYSTEM-/250667389976?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3a5cf0d418

You don't need the booster pump. At 50 psi our 4040 produces 2 litres of pure a minute with a 50/50 waste to pure ratio using an hf5 membrane.

The other solution is to invest in a second hand ibc tank and set it up in a shed or your garage.It then becomes a static system and you can use it to process water all through the day whilst you are out working using your current r/o. Pump it to your van's tank with a submersible pump and a length of hose.

A 450 GPD did 2 of us (2 vans) for about 5 years before we upgraded to a 4040 when we added a part time cleaner to help and didn't have enough water.

Thanks spruce, I was hoping I could purchase something like the Dauqa 4040 unit and just bolt it onto the the existing tank then use the inlet hoses that currently goes from the solenoid cutoff valve into the pre filters also upgrade to a larger DI vessel.What do you think about that, would that be achievable?

 

[spruce]

I can't see from your picture what inlet and outlet (waste) your system uses but I would presume that it would be 1/2" reduced to 1/4" with a reducer to suit the r/o inlet and outlets.

It will be easy to fit the 1/2" hose to your prefilters.

Use this to screw into the prefilter inlet.

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/john-guest-1-2-push-in-fitting-to-1-2-male-screw-bspt-thread.html

use this to push into that male connector

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/a-john-guest-stem-to-a-barb.html

Use this if you need a 90 degree bend.

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/john-guest-a-stem-elbow.html

Secure the hose onto the barb with either 'o' clips or jubilee clamps.

Daqua will also do those fittings. Add a couple of turns of PTFE tape or other liquid thread sealer to the male threads before assembly.

 

[Greener]

I can't see from your picture what inlet and outlet (waste) your system uses but I would presume that it would be 1/2" reduced to 1/4" with a reducer to suit the r/o inlet and outlets.
It will be easy to fit the 1/2" hose to your prefilters.

Use this to screw into the prefilter inlet.

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/john-guest-1-2-push-in-fitting-to-1-2-male-screw-bspt-thread.html

use this to push into that male connector

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/a-john-guest-stem-to-a-barb.html

Use this if you need a 90 degree bend.

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/john-guest-a-stem-elbow.html

Secure the hose onto the barb with either 'o' clips or jubilee clamps.

Daqua will also do those fittings. Add a couple of turns of PTFE tape or other liquid thread sealer to the male threads before assembly.

Thanks @spruce :thumbsup: ill post a couple of pictures tomorrow showing the inlet and outlet side of things. Your help is very much appreciated what part of the world are you based? Cheers buddy.

 

[spruce]

Thanks @spruce :thumbsup: ill post a couple of pictures tomorrow showing the inlet and outlet side of things. Your help is very much appreciated what part of the world are you based? Cheers buddy.

Teesside - Saltburn by the Sea to be exact.

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