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Ionics Resin

Is a Chinese brand with a manufacturer who has a dodgy site! I see they have water quality standard on the packaging which surprised at as EU regulations are very tight on that.

Do you have any other brand left and do a test on both!

 
Is a Chinese brand with a manufacturer who has a dodgy site! I see they have water quality standard on the packaging which surprised at as EU regulations are very tight on that.
Do you have any other brand left and do a test on both!
Hi Doug

It might turn out to be rubbish- just like the others I tested!!/emoticons/biggrin.png However, as has been experienced by others I've been finding Tulsion to be very unstable over the last couple of years. I've even had some which was bone dry upon opening. One bag will be fine then the next rubbish- it doesn't seem to matter where it's purchased from either. I can only assume either quality control issues or a reduction/change in quality?

 
Hi Doug
It might turn out to be rubbish- just like the others I tested!!/emoticons/biggrin.png However, as has been experienced by others I've been finding Tulsion to be very unstable over the last couple of years. I've even had some which was bone dry upon opening. One bag will be fine then the next rubbish- it doesn't seem to matter where it's purchased from either. I can only assume either quality control issues or a reduction/change in quality?
so what is the best resin u have used to date ? have u tryed (indion resin)

 
so what is the best resin u have used to date ? have u tryed (indion resin)
Yes, tried Indion- nothing to write home about. The best "was" Tulsion MB115 but as said, it has become increasingly hit & miss with it's quality. Before that was Dowex MB50- fantastic resin, however it has become unavailable for use in our industry now.

 
Hi Doug
It might turn out to be rubbish- just like the others I tested!!/emoticons/biggrin.png However, as has been experienced by others I've been finding Tulsion to be very unstable over the last couple of years. I've even had some which was bone dry upon opening. One bag will be fine then the next rubbish- it doesn't seem to matter where it's purchased from either. I can only assume either quality control issues or a reduction/change in quality?

There are two streams of Tulsion into the UK and both are different specs. Ours is QC to the highest level so should not be that much difference in performance, The cation is the same but anion different with a higher spec in moisture content and exchange capacity.

However saying that when I've investigated why a persons resin has not lasted it has always been down to the di vessel or tds meter plus increase in water ppm. Our water has just jumped up from 032ppm to 120ppm which will now effect local window cleaners.

 
There are two streams of Tulsion into the UK and both are different specs. Ours is QC to the highest level so should not be that much difference in performance, The cation is the same but anion different with a higher spec in moisture content and exchange capacity.
However saying that when I've investigated why a persons resin has not lasted it has always been down to the di vessel or tds meter plus increase in water ppm. Our water has just jumped up from 032ppm to 120ppm which will now effect local window cleaners.
I did buy two new DI vessels & a new HM TDS meter & neither made a jot of difference. Input TDS has remained stable for my source water. I would normally expect one fill to last me 7 to 8 weeks of normal work/water usage with good resin. However, I've had this down to only 2 weeks with no increase in water usage or input TDS!! I can appreciate some fluctuation in longevity with various differing factors but what I'm experiencing is way beyond this.

 
Hi All,

I am a new member so greetings.....

I have used a bag of the new Ionic resin and overall its been very good......but it seemed a bit moist/soggy especially at the bottom of the bag which made me question whether that was why it was cheaper (e.g. heavier bag - less of the good stuff)

I am going to buy some more though and just keep an eye on it......

 
Its one of those things that does intrigue me. One customer buys in bulk MB-111 as finds this works better with him and the difference between 115 is the cation resin which is of lower grade but has a lower exchange capacity.

As you are aware water structure can change so the balance of anions and cations could also change. MB-115 is a ratio of 1.5 with the anion side more loaded. If you water structure was 1.3/5 anion loaded then both resins would deplete the same time. If all of a sudden you had an imbalance and water became 1/1 then the cation would deplete first.

Cation ions are most common to cause spotting as they are minerals like calcium, lead etc.. which I know are high in water in Scotland as you can tell where people have their hose tap's by the kitchen windows you will see the windows etched with hard water stains.

If there was an instrument on the market that could tell you what content your water is then you would be onto a winner as you could have the right mix. I have been trying some mixes and have been surprised at some results.

 
Hi All,
I am a new member so greetings.....

I have used a bag of the new Ionic resin and overall its been very good......but it seemed a bit moist/soggy especially at the bottom of the bag which made me question whether that was why it was cheaper (e.g. heavier bag - less of the good stuff)

I am going to buy some more though and just keep an eye on it......
Welcome to the forum @Alien Human :thumbsup:

 
It's interesting on the cheaper resins being sold what actual volume is in the bag. Tulsion is consistent in weight being 19 kg and over. I tried two brands both weighed in at around 17 kg.

When to fill two 11 litre vessels and both bags I was left with 1 and bit litres. Whereas with Tulsion always have around 4/5 litres left.

 
Credilite from cleaning spot works a treat and it's cheap [emoji106]

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Its one of those things that does intrigue me. One customer buys in bulk MB-111 as finds this works better with him and the difference between 115 is the cation resin which is of lower grade but has a lower exchange capacity.
As you are aware water structure can change so the balance of anions and cations could also change. MB-115 is a ratio of 1.5 with the anion side more loaded. If you water structure was 1.3/5 anion loaded then both resins would deplete the same time. If all of a sudden you had an imbalance and water became 1/1 then the cation would deplete first.

Cation ions are most common to cause spotting as they are minerals like calcium, lead etc.. which I know are high in water in Scotland as you can tell where people have their hose tap's by the kitchen windows you will see the windows etched with hard water stains.

If there was an instrument on the market that could tell you what content your water is then you would be onto a winner as you could have the right mix. I have been trying some mixes and have been surprised at some results.
......and this is why I failed chemistry at school. /emoticons/biggrin.png

A fellow window cleaner and myself shared a bag of Tulsion MB115 which I bought 2 years ago. He lives just down the road from me so we have the same water supply.

He says the bag I bought was rubbish and he wouldn't buy that again. It didn't last him very long at all according to him. But what he hadn't considered is that he had started to let the windie next door to him have water as well as he had converted his top windows to wfp whilst still doing the ground windows trad during this period. I not sure he knew how much water that windie was taking either. That windie has subsequently stopped window cleaning so my mate isn't using as much water now, and this is also reflecting on his resin usage. So he is under the impression that this current resin he is using is lasting much longer so is much better.

He also has an inefficient Merlin r/o.

We both have the same size di vessel but mine lasts 18 months where his lasts 3 months or less. We also use a lot more water a month than he does. We have a 4040 that brings the tds down to 2 where his is between 10 and 12, maybe even higher now.

IMPO we don't have the ability to judge any resin performance as we can't approach it in a scientific way that will take all changes into consideration. As Doug says, a change in water composition can throw a spanner into the works. So we tend to make judgements on our gut feel or on how our mind sees things.

Our experience is a typical example. I asked him the other day if he wanted to share a bag of Tulsion - no way was his reply - not that rubbish.

I don't know what he is using now to be honest but my next bag will be another bag of Tulsion MB115, unless Doug advises differently - our water comes from Kielder Dam so the water's orgin is from the Scottish Borders region.

I'm not saying WinPro or anyone else is wrong in their resin results assumption btw. I'm just saying how 2 people can see the same bag of resin with the same water supply totally differently.

 
Well, if the first fill is anything to go by it's rubbish!!:rolleyes: It's lasted as long as the worst bag of Tulsion I've had. This is my Fourth week & TDS reading 24 today, in reality it's lasted 3.5 weeks, I used to get approx 8 weeks then that dropped to 6 when I went 100% (almost) wfp, I'm down to 3 to 4 weeks now for no reason. Many days I only use 300 ltrs too.

I'm on twin DI's & the oldest still had Tulsion in it so I'll see how it compares with both vessels filled with Ionics- but I'm not hopeful.

 
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