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i don't get why they all seem so healthy and happy, light ing up fags, I'd probably be weeping as I arrived in Greece while carrying a stretcher. I wouldn't feel comfortable arriving before the sick and needy

 
i don't get why they all seem so healthy and happy, light ing up fags, I'd probably be weeping as I arrived in Greece while carrying a stretcher. I wouldn't feel comfortable arriving before the sick and needy
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Indeed, this is why I am finding it hard to feel sorry for these people, if it was women and children and old and sick I would throw open the doors to help myself, but that isn't what I am seeing, I am seeing healthy males who should be picking up guns and fighting back.

 
Maybe we're old fashioned /emoticons/wink.png

I still hold doors open for people, give up my seat, let people out at junctions, keep to the speed limit. That kind of thing isn't popular now

 
Maybe? I would get my wife, children and also if possible my friends familys etc safe as possible, then turn round pick up the closest thing to a weapon and head back.

 
There you go, just fixed the problem, we take in the women, children, old, disabled, sick etc, look after them, the males go to training camps, get trained how to fight and armed and sent back to sort it out?

 
Yep. I'd get my family safe, turn round and it would become a numbers game: take as many down as possible to help keep my family safe

 
Well whatever you did that wasn't fighting back idiots like me would defend you.
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No thanks, you just carry on not worrying about anyone else's well being, especially mine just because I happen to be a white guy born in england doesn't make me any more or less in your 'tribe' as a guy from syria, you just take care of yourself.

And jimroot, ask Ghandi if pacifism works or not. It is a very tough, paradoxical question for sure, but continue to ask it we must. Plenty of people go to war, but who's war? Even english fighting germans in ww2 still realised it was the leaders war they were fighting and they were mainly normal humans and played footy etc. Yes lots of different views from different ends of the spectrum and indoctrination and sheep-like thinking and fear and so on. But deep down we are all skin, bones and just want a normal life for our kids. Just because someone throws a punch, do we have to throw one back? Hey isn't it religion that teaches peace over violence? (I am not religious, but respect peoples choice). Then that gets distorted by corrupt people wanting to further their own deluded craziness and use religion as an easy way to rally troops. Aren't isis killing muslims too? Lool up diminished responsibility. Collectively, people are stupid. Hands down if all was the same, most people don't want to fight, situations, brainwashing, desperation etc forces ones hands into it.

I believe there are more good people than bad, but like I showed earlier, in a room full of people, it only takes 1 selfish person to ruin it for everyone else and let everyone else starve. This could then drive others to do something they don't actually want to do or believe in. But hopefully most would still try to be 'ghandi' about the situation. Maybe take the bread back and still share it with the selfish one. After all, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Be the change you wish to see in the world.

I would defend my son to the death, sure, I would risk my neck and cross seas for him and send money back if I believed that to be the best thing, I would smother a grenade to save him, I wouldn't join an angry mob and start shooting at people, I would explore all other options first. And an option we have right now is to help those in need, all else is pointless speculatiom and irrelevant.

 
Its nothing to do with you being in my tribe, I would equally defend all creeds and colours, I'll be honest I even considered going to Syria myself to fight isis like that chap from Liverpool did, I am still considering it truth be told but it would be way to detrimental to my kids, and as I didn't grow up with a father (or mother) I promised I would not do the same to my kids, which is why I didn't have any until I was 100% stable.

I also want "genuine" refugees to be helped, but I am not convinced a lot of these people are, it doesn't add up, my guess is a lot of them are going to be infiltrating isis people, they have been trying to get as many nutters in as they can for years what better way than with genuine refugees?

Oh and yes they are killing other muslims, but they are the wrong type of muslim.

 
I am for protecting everyone, that includes my own people, not forsaking them at all costs to help others.

 
As for religion being a religion of peace, read the Quaran, I admit I have not read ALL of it, I couldn't stomache any more, but I read quite a lot of it, it does not promote peace and love at all, its all about removing everyone that isn't muslim and taking over, for their own good. You are told to lie and deceive none muslims to get into a position to attack them.

Read it.

 
here is a quote from a India related page I am on, written by Indians. "

Saudi Arabia and other oil-rich Gulf nations have enough money and resource to house all the refugees fleeing the war in Syria.

Yet the western countries in Eu...rope get criticized for not 'doing enough', while the Islamic nations do nothing.

It is ironic how Muslims rush to Saudi Arabia when they need religion but when they need Human Rights, they rush to the west."

the chap who wrote that is called Mohammed, check the page out by the way

https://www.facebook.com/IndianQuotes/timeline?ref=page_internal

 
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Those rich Islamic nations are selfish and unhelpful that's why, so the only people left to help are the European countries...

Now that could be something to be proud of, morally we are the better countries,

Europe would never disrespect rich Arab nations as we buy there oil and have lots of army bases on there turf, so we just can't have a go at them...

Sad really isn't it.

 
Mr bump, owners of peace are usually users of violence, take the shaolin monks who had to learn Kung fu or be killed by bandits, or Steven seagal who wants to be left alone but ends up defending native Americans time and again.

India ended up developing nukes following Gandhi? That's a peaceful Hindu based country of poverty and space program, who now laugh at Britain for continuing to give them cash hand outs

I don't believe in punching someone who tries to punch me, I believe in punching them at least three times for their trouble and/or until they stop moving, but I'm biased as that's what I'm trained to do. I love peace and aim to never get into conflict, but as long as there's a single person in the world who wants to hurt someone else, how can there be peace? There'd just be this guy going around killing everyone holding flowers out to him, then there would be no one left to 'do' peace.

To have a bit of peace needs a modicum of violence or at least threat

 
Ghandi wasn't whiter than white, read up on hom, here is a lovely quote of his about being placed with black people, “We were then marched off to a prison intended for Kaffirs,” Gandhi complained during one of his campaigns for the rights of Indians settled there. “We could understand not being classed with whites, but to be placed on the same level as the Natives seemed too much to put up with. Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilized—the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty and live like animals.”

 
Diwarnach yet again you select an anecdote to build an argument, just like your dna article. Judge him on his life, he admitted many times the question led to paradoxes and he struggled with it, but he did his best to do the right thing in a non-violent way. His use of language was from a different generation. He was educated in england as a lawyer, ended up in rags weaving his own cotton and going on a march for salt. Ghandi (and buddha and other saints or indeed anyone else) cannot be judged on those whole follow via chinese whispers, judge independently, not stereotypically. Jimroot I said what would ghandi do, I didn't say what would modern day india or the sikh religion or so on do. If we all keep holding grudges and throwing punches it will never end. At some point it has to end. I don't care what others do or what people would like or prefer or fear or imitate, you do whats morally right. End of. Good luck to you all. I officially bow out.

 
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Mr bump, owners of peace are usually users of violence, take the shaolin monks who had to learn Kung fu or be killed by bandits, or Steven seagal who wants to be left alone but ends up defending native Americans time and again.
India ended up developing nukes following Gandhi? That's a peaceful Hindu based country of poverty and space program, who now laugh at Britain for continuing to give them cash hand outs

I don't believe in punching someone who tries to punch me, I believe in punching them at least three times for their trouble and/or until they stop moving, but I'm biased as that's what I'm trained to do. I love peace and aim to never get into conflict, but as long as there's a single person in the world who wants to hurt someone else, how can there be peace? There'd just be this guy going around killing everyone holding flowers out to him, then there would be no one left to 'do' peace.

To have a bit of peace needs a modicum of violence or at least threat
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Whatever happened to Morrissey ?

 
Diwarnach yet again you select and anecdote to build an argument, just like your dna article. Judge him on his life, he admitted many times the questipn led to paradoxes and he struggled with it. His use of language was from a different generation. He was educated in england as a lawyer, ended up in rags weaving his own cotton and goin on a march for salt. Ghandi (and buddha and other saints or indeed anyone else) cannot be judged on those whole follow, judge independently, not stereotypically. Jimroot I said what would ghandi do, I didn't say modern day india or the sikh religion or so on. If we all keep holding grudges and throwing punches it will never end. At some point it has to end. I don't care what others do or what people like or prefer or fear or imitate, you do whats morally right. End of. Good luck to you all. I officially bow out.
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My main point was he was a racist himself so on the issue at hand what he would of done isn't exactly clear cut.

He obviously wasn't keen on black people, what would he have done had thousands/millions wanted to move into India? would he have welcomed them with open arms? I really don't know.

 
He'd probably allow them to settle in Pakistan

The historical Buddha abandoned his wife and child to go find himself. Most religions don't feature much to do with children unless it's negative as far as I'm aware, such as sacrifices and such. 'Normal' people who want to raise children and make them better than themselves, look after them and make them well rounded people, how is the guidence of a childless or child abandoning expert of total relevance

 

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