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Is It Getting Past a Joke Now - Migrants Turning Up Left Right and Centre

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exactly it dosent fit their political correctness.

WATCH this video hte Whole of it, it made me burn inside of anger. See what they bring with them, hate, hate and more hate. But do we do anything no we are being invaded by muslims. THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER EUROPE THIS DAY!!!

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If thats true about the family that drowned then that is very sad. The news will never tell the whole truth, they all have agendas. Infact everyone has an agenda and to find the truth you need to find their agenda then you can get perspective on their truth to find yours. Go find out who owns the news and you can start to see why they say what they do.

Green I never said I would open my doors to everyone, I said no borders and we should open our country and allow freedom of movement and also as a country help as much as we can. Yes I give, donate and help where I can, but I also said everyone deserves their own space, aka a home. Of course this includes the homeless in our own country, but the current refugee surge is a recent thing, homelessness has been going on forever, we should be asking seperately why this hasn't been sorted out already! Sure as heck we have been spending money on useless rubbish that could of been better spent, it shouldn't be either one or another homeless, all should all be helped and scrap something else instead, tax bankers, scrap hss, scrap trident, dare I say it privatise the railway and the underground for its huge profits or whatever else. Sure we can't help everyone, but being willing to try and lead by example, as a country and as a collective, is what is needed. You must be accepting also of freedom of movement as you and your wife are both not from england and you hire non-english people.

I totally agree as each generation is brought up more and more amongst a get-rich-quick, fast-food, government-handout, x-factor, fake tan society, it is more and more scared of hard work than the last. As I said before I'm totally up for working for benefits, I have been saying it for decades. Refugees and immigrants are more willing in general to do the most unpopular work, unlike as you put it, the wetherspoon scroungers. Although there are many stories and exceptions for each side of the fence whichever view you take of course.

I think most of us want to help, we are just looking at it from different points of view and are probably all correct to varying degrees. We most definately should help other in countries who are being overrun by terrorists and war, but we are not the world police and it does get less of an easy decision in some cases choosing which side, whats right and wrong just because its different (from the outside, and inside, even our own and other western governments are immoral, corrupt, taking from the poor to help the rich and killing innocent civilians etc etc) but thats a seperate debate. We trained and armed saddam and then fought him, not that we deliberately try to keep a perpetual war going on in middle eastern countries or anything...

 
You can look for 'facts' from all sides. If you start hating one particular colour, religion, country etc you are just as bad as the people in the video.

Jacob no doubt some of this goes on, just as terrorists from all religions and countries have crazy people who cause chaos on the rest. And the jewish and muslims do hate each other in parts, alot of hate is down to how some of palenstine was stolen to become israel, but many also get on and live side by side. Minorities causing riots and carnage is down to lack of education. Skipped through the video, it is a hate video, you can find one about anyone or anything if you look for it, the CNN report on britain made me laugh, apparently we are now close to being under sharia law and muslims have taken over, typical american hate reporting, unless of course you live here where the reality is totally different, last time I looked there are very few muslims in charge the government, not that I mind either way as long as the people in charge are open-minded and respect all views (although even the current gov isn't perfect, none ever will be) and to be honest its better when people in charge don't mention any religion at all.

Not all people who are muslims want to start a war, most just want to live their lives as normal, problem is people get bored, watch hate videos like this but from different points of view, get worked up and then it starts getting out of hand. Over time everyone will integrate and learn to live by the rules of the country in question and things will mellow out somewhat. Will never be perfect though as there is always a minority from every side that wants not to accept others and start a war. It should only make us really worry when that minority are the ones in charge of actual armies and modern weaponry.

 
So when muslims makes muslim zones and sharia zone where the law dosent count, its considered a good integration? Who often have you seen socalled chinise area where chinamens forbid you to drink alcohol or wear a skirt, and then beat you up if you dont do as they say. Not anywhere!! Muslims are a cancer and cause destruction whereever they are thats a fact. Think 40-50 years back did europe have all this problems and rioting going on?! No and you know it you just denie the fact that europe is burning due to mass migration of muslims!

 
There are many places in this country I wouldn't want to go through fear of beinf beaten up, all of the ones I can think of which are areas where white british don't work are on benefits and torch cars and beat you down from not being from their area. I'm sure there are ones based around other creeds too, you can find this anywhere. People tend to congretate together, thats natural. I refuse to get drawn into hating entire peoples, most are good, normal people from each country, religion etc ans they all have their ***** too.

 
A lot of the '*****' try and come to Western Europe, with the purpose of expoilting the kind hearted financial benefits and tolerant attitude that irronically allows their intolerance beliefs to propagate

im sure if 5 migrants moved into your street that would be fine. That's the normal kind of level a society can deal with, culturally and practically. A hundred? I don't think anyone would honestly like that as it would no longer have the same vibe in Your neighbourhood.

Also, free movement... Who's meant to dig out the sewers and upgrade the roads to deal with everyone moving in? Fly medics in cause they decide its nicer in Britain than Greece when the NHS can't even look after its native users? Change the logistics of a hundred different sectors to cope with free movement

When they move out again are these support crews meant to follow them and cater to their new whim on where they live? Provide interpreters in every language funded by native tax payers?

 
I wish I had the answers to those questions jimroot, I only know whats right and wrong, the logistics of it just have to be dealt with as and when they occur, plan for the worst and hope for the best like with everything. There's no right or wrong answer, just a right and wrong direction to head in. Refugees and immigrants are different remember, although all should be free to go wherever, if the government was tougher on its own scroungers then people wouldn't worry others were migrating here for a free ride and then more would just accept people are looking for work or a better life. There are many 'foreigners' around here, no issues. Right I need to get out and get some more customers today else I'm going to be on the next train to germany! /emoticons/biggrin.png

 
I am voting Gav deletes this thread, its full of hatred, infighting and has nothing to do with window cleaning, not even remotely. Obviously I include myself as a perpetrator in it all. And I feel since its inception it has slowly detracted from this great forum, new posts have dwindled.

Although all valid points made by all and a topic we shouldn't hide from, this isn't really the place for it. It totally gets my vote to send this thread to the abyss and reignite the forum to be totally about window cleaning and related matters!

 
Jacob. You don't sound too local yourself so i'm suggesting you give Chinatown in London's Soho district a visit one evening. There are Chinamen who WAIT for you to get drunk so that they CAN put you in a skirt.

 
This thread is in the 'Chit Chat' section @MrBump. Chit chat is exactly that, chit chat. I thought you were bowing out a few pages back. Do you live in or near a city? I don't enter my city anymore, it's quite intimidating these days. Should we feel intimidated in our own cities? All the nostalgic buildings apart from one or two working men's clubs are now Somali day centres etc. We British are losing our identity and are standing aside and letting generations of history go down the pan. An influx will only add to this. We build mosques to accommodate muslims, would they allow Christian churches to be built in their homelands? No, they'd probably burn them, they would not tolerate it. I'm sorry but it seems all one way with them.

 
This thread is in the 'Chit Chat' section @MrBump. Chit chat is exactly that, chit chat.
Yeah but to be fair, not sure you can really describe this topic as chit chat :eek::confused:

 
Yeah I was tuffers, but I just can't help myself /emoticons/biggrin.png Some people just love ignorance and bliss, some people it just grinds their gears. Guess I'm in the second camp. I live in a town but go to cities. Its only intimidating because its unknown and you probably haven't grown up with it, but saying that it depends on area, rather than nationality, any nationality / area can be nice or dodgy. Still a long way to go before total integration and acceptance but we are heading in the right direction slowly. We are better than religious based nations yes. No you probably wouldn't be allowed a church in a strict muslim country, same as they are refusing muslims in israel, same as other narrow minded religious countries are creating hate amongst fellow human beings and contributing towards animosity and war. Fortunately we are open minded and teach equality to our children so that they may be wiser than we are.

Germany let is 20,000 refuges this WEEKEND just gone, we will let in 20,000 over the course of theentire 4 years of government, not only that but the germans are cheering them on, handing out food at stations etc. We just need to change our mentality a little, just be a little more open minded and hope everyone else who moves here will be the same.

 
They won't be, they were throwing Christians off boats to drown and refusing red cross packages.

Germany hasn't sent over 1.2 billion in aid either, they are also FAR less overcrowded than us.

 
The nation is now four times as densely populated as France and double the amount of Germany.

Only the small island of Malta has more people per square kilometre.

 
BOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGGGGG

Can we close this thread now?

Dragging on and on and on!

Instead let's have a fight between mrbump and caveman? (Dirwnach) /emoticons/biggrin.png

 
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