Pole the tops and trad the bottoms

[Leicester24]

So I just looked briefly at a local cleaners website where he advertises the fact that he poles the tops and trads the bottoms.

But WHY ?

Surely just pole the whole house

With this method you are surely suggesting to your customer that the pole will do for the tops but we can do a great job of the bottoms by trading them ??

Well if you have not confidence in the pole system then why are you doing the tops with it, just trad the whole house ??

 

[noddy]

, we trading all tops and poleing the bottoms just to be different lol

 

[Dave B]

Nothing wrong with poling tops and tradding bottoms..it saves water for sure

Why not advertise that if that is what you do??

Considering no method is actually better than the other and all methods have their inherent advantages and disadvantages they are just being truthful about what methods they use

And yes you can do a great job of the bottoms by tradding them

This is obviously someone who likes trad but doesn't want to use ladders

 

[Leicester24]

Good point about saving water

However the huge reason for not trading the bottoms is, and I'm sure most will agree that the pole is quicker. Especially if you have the kit out having cleaned the tops

 

[jimmyboots]

I do it on 90% of my work. I don't Trad the tops anymore because after 22 years on the ladder without falling, I thought I was pushing my luck a little so decided to go WFP.

Like Daveyboy says, nothing wrong with it. Some don't even know how to Trad

 

[CMRwindowcleaning]

Started pole tops trad bottoms...moved onto pole tops and pole bottom windows I could easily reach then just pole everything lol still do big bifold doors or houses with massive panes of glass that open up the whole house as its a lovely touch leaving them all shining and completely finished up.

 

[Dave B]

I wfp most stuff nowadays but still have days where i will trad bottoms to change things up a bit

Still have the odd house that suits my harris pole and wag combo that i learnt to use before wfp

Took a lot of effort to get so competent with it so good to keep my hand in

I know if my wfp broke down i could still do a days work with no ladders and no issues

Also it is very satisfying to trad well..more so than wfp imo

 

[Posh]

Also not everyone is bothered about quickness. I prefer to know I've done a good job in 30 minutes then not so sure in 20.

And no not saying you don't do a good job & not saying wfp doesn't do a good job.

It's just my personal opionion the way I work.

 

[Damo]

I know for a fact on some houses trad bottoms would be far far quicker.

I am just too lazy. That's my problem.

I have loads of top openers that spot each time. Vision has helped massively but I know if I did them trad it would be done in seconds lol.

I actually think wfp tops and trad bottoms is the way to go. Any hard Windows on the bottom you could just pole.

Over the years I would say 9 out of 10'complaints are always bottom Windows. So be nice to leave them dry before you go.

I won't be changing tho as I just pole anything including the cat lol.

 

[peter rogers]

on some houses were the panes of glass are massive i find it far quicker carrying my belt on bucket with me for it

 

[Damo]

I had to do a car showroom wfp as I couldn't get a frame off roof. Snapped key in lock.

By the time I had done half the fronts. I would have been done and gone trad! The only Bugger was I got an email saying however you last done Windows please continue lol. So I had to convert job to wfp and all the other sites/owners home. Still I did my first job on Saturday in rain and no way I could have done that trad. So it has its benefits I guess.

 

[spruce]

I do it on 90% of my work. I don't Trad the tops anymore because after 22 years on the ladder without falling, I thought I was pushing my luck a little so decided to go WFP.Like Daveyboy says, nothing wrong with it. Some don't even know how to Trad

Its not just in our industry @jimmyboots

Most young plumbers can't solder copper pipes as they haven't been taught. One youngster told me he didn't need to learn all that old stuff. When I asked him how he would join plastic pipe to leaded pipes, he told me there were no leaded pipes anywhere anymore.

Nice new lettered van - I wonder where he is now. He made a right mess of the job he quoted to do - it had to be redone by an older experienced plumber.

Most modern day mechanics haven't got a clue how to trouble shoot. They are parts fitters.

But saying that, I can't rag a window either.

 

[Poles Apart]

Also not everyone is bothered about quickness. I prefer to know I've done a good job in 30 minutes then not so sure in 20.And no not saying you don't do a good job & not saying wfp doesn't do a good job.

It's just my personal opionion the way I work.

Wonder if the customers ever think 'how come my bottom windows are smeared in the sun but the tops are ok?'

 

[Posh]

You might smear but I don't.

They may wonder why there clean downstairs & spotty upstairs /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[peter rogers]

be bad job if u cant trad without leavinging smears lol

 

[Dave B]

Here we go trad bashing again

I am skilled in trad

Trad pole

And wfp and can do all 3 to a perfect standard

Maybe you need to practice with a squeegee

 

[Poles Apart]

Here we go trad bashing againI am skilled in trad

Trad pole

And wfp and can do all 3 to a perfect standard

Maybe you need to practice with a squeegee

As a trader of 18 years experience I never figured out how to stop smears in the sun.

 

[Jake]

As a trader of 18 years experience I never figured out how to stop smears in the sun.

When the sun is low, there is defo a lot more lines and marks that we don't notice from the outside, whereas wfp almost always never leaves a single Mark, (I have never had a complaint from wfp ever)

But sometimes there's a nick in the squeegee rubber, and that can cause lines without us knowing it, but when he sun dips, and your inside, it's like

Even a direction change with a squeegee leaves marks on occasions, it's just they are rarely noticeable most of the year round..

I'm the same as damo now, just cannot be bothered to trad, it's so slow and annoying,

I do still trad a few houses, but thats it now, it's wfp all the way, much easier,

Both methods have there place, and i think it's completly insane when some window cleaners can't even trad, that to me, is criminal /emoticons/smile.png

Ps, is still like a trad race between some of the 'fast' tradders on here, be great fun, perhaps lee Burbidge could do a YouTube vid titled 'trad battles' :rofl:

 

[Poles Apart]

When the sun is low, there is defo a lot more lines and marks that we don't notice from the outside, whereas wfp almost always never leaves a single Mark, (I have never had a complaint from wfp ever)
But sometimes there's a nick in the squeegee rubber, and that can cause lines without us knowing it, but when he sun dips, and your inside, it's like

Even a direction change with a squeegee leaves marks on occasions, it's just they are rarely noticeable most of the year round..

I'm the same as damo now, just cannot be bothered to trad, it's so slow and annoying,

I do still trad a few houses, but thats it now, it's wfp all the way, much easier,

Both methods have there place, and i think it's completly insane when some window cleaners can't even trad, that to me, is criminal /emoticons/smile.png

Ps, is still like a trad race between some of the 'fast' tradders on here, be great fun, perhaps lee Burbidge could do a YouTube vid titled 'trad battles' :rofl:

Soap film residue NEVER gets squeeged away!

 

[Posh]

As a trader of 18 years experience I never figured out how to stop smears in the sun.

That's fair enough & good you admit but you can't brandish every other tradder with the same brush because you couldn't do it.

Some people can't wfp but don't mean everybody can't!!

 

[Dave B]

I have had a whole day of trad bottoms and it's been great fun to get the wagulator out for a change

No smears though