S-Plus dog ear

[Danfire]

Been using my own dog eared Unger S channel for a couple of years and I reckon I had the pressure of the dog ear just about right...just ordered a load of supplies (including an S-Plus channel)...don't know if it's just me but I find the dog ear a bit aggressive...anyone else think likewise and if so have you bent them back a bit with successful results?

 

[Dave B]

Stick with your own dogears mate

The s plus is poo

Do you have the ends square or do you cut a 45° angle in them?

I cut the angle also like polzn bladz which they based the liquidators on and that makes a big difference getting in the corners

I only bend the last inch about 2mm down if that much

I put a pair of pliers on the front of the end of the channel and bend downwards so the whole inch is a mm or 2 lower than the rest

 

[albootyerbaws]

found no difference with the s plus acted like a normal channel.

 

[Damo J]

Ive just bought a 12" plus, used it today and same as above, seems no different to the normal channel. Unless im doing it wrong lol

 

[Cghwindowcleaning]

Unger send me products now and again to try.

They sent me one of the s plus channels last year.

Not sure if it was just the one I got but the dog earing had different angles on each side it looked like it was done by hand not great at all.

I got the feeling they rushed it out to keep up with the liquidator.

I went back to standard ergotec.

 

[norm]

i find the s plus has a bit more drag than the s and its not a zero detailing tool but its close-ish

does look like some dude is just hitting the ends with a big hammer :laugh:

 

[Dave B]

My freebie ones were the same..all ends different

Must be some guy with a pair of pliers on the end of the production line i reckon

 

[Damo J]

Stick with your own dogears mateThe s plus is poo

Do you have the ends square or do you cut a 45° angle in them?

I cut the angle also like polzn bladz which they based the liquidators on and that makes a big difference getting in the corners

I only bend the last inch about 2mm down if that much

I put a pair of pliers on the front of the end of the channel and bend downwards so the whole inch is a mm or 2 lower than the rest

How close to the edge of the channel do you cut your rubber on the plus davey? Gonna give this a try tomorrow, see what difference it makes.

 

[Dave B]

I do mine like this mateView attachment 6778

View attachment 6777

 

[Danfire]

I'm definitely getting loads more drag than with a standard channel and more than with my own dog eared channel, only used it on three houses and the rubbers showing quite a bit of wear on the end already....my own modded channel has an angled cut on the end, haven't done it on the S-Plus yet...definitely going to try to take some of the bend off the ends.

 

[Danfire]

I do mine like this mateView attachment 9692View attachment 9693

Is that an S-Plus or a modded standard channel?

 

[Dave B]

That's a normal s channel

45° cut at the end then last 1 - 2 cm bent forward at the front edge rather than the end bent downwards if that makes sense

 

[Damo J]

Nice one davey

 

[Nathan_M]

Stick with diy dog ear mate, I got offered an s-plus channel cheap but had a go with it and found that diy works better. I've still yet to try the liquidator but for me the s-plus was just a quick way for unger to try match moerman.

 

[Dave B]

I have been modding my own channels for years and until i spoke to Bob Hatt after seeing his vids i thought i was the only one doing it like that

He does it slightly different but it is good to find someone on the same wavelength

I had a prototype liquidator way back and straight away saw how well they perform

Just like my modded channels but straight out of the box

 

[Nathan_M]

So is it worth investing in a liquidator @daveyboy ? I can't get away with the tilting handles but I've heard they will fit into other handles.

 

[Dave B]

They fit ergotec handles but i don't like the way they fit although that is just personal preference

Ettore quick release handles they fit perfect you just have to take a clip off to slide the channel in then put the clip back on

Also moerman black and blue handles that look like ergotec are good

I love the moerman adjustable handle though

Liquidators have mixed reviews but i say if you are used to using modded handles then give it a go

They are great for 0 detailing

I tradded 2 houses today and only used a sill cloth

 

[Nathan_M]

I guess it's just a matter of trying the liquidator with adjustable handle and with normal handle then. The 2 settings for the adjustable handle is 0 degrees and then more of an angle than a normal squeegee isn't it @daveyboy?

 

[Dave B]

It is 40° whereas most normal handles are 30°

They are good though as otherwise you need to pull your hand away from the glass a bit more to replicate the angle they work best at

 

[Nathan_M]

Think I'll just bite the bullet and get one. Nothing to lose really.

 

[Dave B]

Just start with a small one 10" or 14" and you'll soon suss it out