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EU Vote: In or Out?

Will you vote to stay in or leave the EU?

  • In

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Out

    Votes: 30 78.9%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 7.9%

  • Total voters
    38
The only problem we have is rich English people moving up from the south east. Not sure how leaving the eu will help that.

As someone that's grown up in Wales, and seen the devastation that Westminster has burdened the principality with, pretty much pillaged it for every resource and left it to rot, surely it's best that the English are kept in check by Europe? Westminsters record of human rights in Wales is atrocious!

 
Thats not the same as cant get 'A' school place!Loads of our friends drop at separate schools. Its going to happen anyway as older child move from primary to secondary.

Not getting the school you'd prefer is quite different
I'm not talking primary and secondary, I am talking having two children in separate junior schools.

 
as for the fact that large swathes of Birmingham are 99% ethnic - zero proof of that and complete bunkum.as for 100% ethnic schools - hardly
Zero proof??? drive through some areas, they have had massive problems with the schools in Brum not teaching the regular curriculum but their own muslim version, there are schools without any white English kids in them, this is fact.

 
Have you lived in or travelled widely through Birmingham @Spartan ? Of course there are monopolised areas that would be uncomfortable if not hostile to outsiders... Aston, Handsworth, Small Heath, Boardsley Green, Sparkhill, to name a few, large parts of the north, east and south inner city areas.

Go to a hospital or a school near these areas and the majority of users will have English as a second language, foreign dress, foreign ideals and culture

 
And....?

Sure it's not ideal but its hardly "not got a school place"

And as I said eventually 2 separate schools will be needed anyway as the older child moves on.

So what Powell prophesied almost 50 years ago hasn't happened and thus he's wrong.

 
Have you lived in or travelled widely through Birmingham @Spartan ? Of course there are monopolised areas that would be uncomfortable if not hostile to outsiders... Aston, Handsworth, Small Heath, Boardsley Green, Sparkhill, to name a few, large parts of the north, east and south inner city areas.
Go to a hospital or a school near these areas and the majority of users will have English as a second language, foreign dress, foreign ideals and culture
I worked in Handsworth dole office an a apprentice electrician, that was over 20 years ago, I felt like I was not in England then, can only imagine how bad it is now, I was actually warned about my leather jacket potentially causing offense and I shouldn't wear it to work???

 
Oh and one of the chaps I was working with had lived in Handsworth for about 3 weeks before he had to move away, he has attacked twice, broken into three times and had his tyres slashed on his car.

He was white and not welcome.

Like I say this was over 20 years ago!

 
Zero proof??? drive through some areas, they have had massive problems with the schools in Brum not teaching the regular curriculum but their own muslim version, there are schools without any white English kids in them, this is fact.
If you know of a state school that is 100% ethnic then I'll be interested to know the name....

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Blimey, just seen that this thread is still being commented on. I think i stirred up a hornet's nest here.

I'm going to vote to stay "In". The amount of people I've spoken to who want to exit who think that everybody from the EU is going to be sent home if we exit is astounding. Have they got visions of SS style snatch squads roaming the countryside side looking for "illegals"?

This country has astronomical levels of public and private debt. It is technically bankrupt. Short to medium term - interest rates will have to rise as money will flee the pound if we leave. That could put alot of people underwater with big mortgages. Long term - who knows

London's economy relies on the throughput of international money and all the transactions that go with it. I'm no fan of the banks but what sense would it be for them to remain in London if we go. They would go to Frankfurt. If we had an economy that wasn't so skewed towards financial services, and if we had a much bigger manufacturing sector we would be more able to whether the storm. Ironically, Germany is the most able country to leave the Eurozone

 
A Muslim woman walks into a GPs office and asks to see the doctor, the white male Catholic English doctor says 'I'll see you now'

'Oh no' says Muslim woman, 'I demand to see a doctor of same religious background as I am'

'Of course, right away' says clinic manager............

How fast would I be the racist on the front page of the tabloids when I am confronted at the GPs office by a doctor of Muslim background and I demand to see a a GP of Roman Catholic beliefs? :whistle:

 
A Muslim woman walks into a GPs office and asks to see the doctor, the white male Catholic English doctor says 'I'll see you now'
'Oh no' says Muslim woman, 'I demand to see a doctor of same religious background as I am'

'Of course, right away' says clinic manager............

How fast would I be the racist on the front page of the tabloids when I am confronted at the GPs office by a doctor of Muslim background and I demand to see a a GP of Roman Catholic beliefs? :whistle:
But that's different obviously, only white people can be racist.

 
One point of view. There are others that argue differently. Nobody knows until it happens. There will be a desire amongst other EU member states to make life for the UK as difficult as possible outside the EU. We have one of the highest number of opt-outs from EU treaties and I think we are seen as a drag on the union. We will be made to pay. That may sound harsh but if the UK was large majority pro EU, and France wanted to leave, then the UK population would demand the French are marginalised. I think this would happen to the UK after an exit.

Not according to the ex head of the bank of England Ex-Bank of England chief: 'Germany faces a terrible choice'
Mervyn King is a man who completely failed to see the 2008 financial crisis coming and stoked a ridiculous housing bubble prior to that. I take his opinion with a pinch of salt

 
If France left I certainly wouldn't want to "punish" them.

If that is the case we are definitely better off out!

 
Under World Trade Organisation rules the EU wouldn't be allowed to punish the UK for leaving

We don't yet know what a post-membership relationship with the EU would look like. But we do know some things already.

If the UK and the EU can't agree on a specific trade agreement, then trade would take place under World Trade Organisation rules.

The EU would not be allowed to discriminate against the UK specifically, and we would face the same tariffs that any country without a free trade agreement with the EU would.

 
Besides, we could punish the EU countries more than them us anyway, we buy more than we sell, we have the power, not them.

BMW and Mercedes? sorry Germany as you are being arses we are going to put 50% tax on those, oh dear.

 
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