How many cleans a day on average

[AGlassAct]

Going back to the original post - if he's not putting the work out YOU want him to then as an employer I would spend the day with him and show him what you expect. Yes he has 4 years experience - but is that at the fast pace your expecting. I'd be quite happy with 15 customers a day - but I only have to support myself.

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[Kennygggkent]

Well, reading the amount some people can get through is mind bending. 4 hours 15 clean? Really thats 5 an hour? 12 mins per house? That is just madness. I couldnot get near that the way I clean, I like to do a good job and clean the doors and make sure no runs of dirt coming outfrom sills etc, that takes time just stopping that and cleanign it up. I watch other cleaners and often see them take 15 mins to 20 mins on one house and a good job done. I do two to three an hour and do not want to do more than that. One reason is burning out and second reason that of quality. With so many cleaners now I find it hard to get rows of houses so have travel time inbetween cleans. I manage 12-15 a day and £150-170 a day max, seesm **** comapared to on here but thats pushing it for me and thus getting new customers of the franschise ones where they rush and do **** cleans and get No complaints at all. The way I want to run my business.

All bull aside,12-15, £150 a day is standard for most decent windsy I think buddy IMO.

 

[Kennygggkent]

Hi Guys
We have a cleaner employed and he doesn't seem to be getting through the work

almost all small 2/3 bed £10/12 houses and a few £7 front only terraced WFP and doing around 10/15 customers a day with 4 years experience

we need to be doing £300 a day to pay canvassing, van, wages etc

what are people cleaning per day in terms of houses/cash ?

I don't know the in and outs of your business so I can't totally give an objective answer, but really, like a lot of people have said the chance are that maybe you'll get someone able to pull off £300 a day but you'll most likely be dealing with burnout a lot and a high turnover of staff, not to mention resentment for the workload. Maybe working on his own is demotivating for him, maybe he'd be better with a partner? I think £200-250 a day would be more like it.

 

[Hunty]

I think 3.5 an hour is not pushing it, if you honestly have 6-7 houses per Rd I would smash Rd in 2 hours comfortably (as long as straight forward houses of course).

I think you should go out with him, clean with him and have a chat about pace, get on with him and say do you have some people talk to you? Do the chats last long?

It's hard to talk generally on here about "amounts" water, rates, customers etc as they differ so much up and down country, I personally deal with a lot of 2-3 bedroom terrace housing association properties, not Victorian size houses but smaller, today for example I did 3 fronts in 10 mins, we are talking maintenance cleans on windows that were installed last year and I clean every 3 weeks that are side by side, they are spotless with no issues, £18 earned, I don't have many days where I have this luxury unfortunately!

I think when I get someone on board, £25-30 an hour should be a target of an employee, I would hope to make £10 after overheads on this (I will of course seek a lil further advise from forum when I am in position) but that's where I would be looking if I was to employ now.

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[C Rose Cleaning Services]

I do anything from £2-300 on my own and the odd day is a bit more (£320 is my current PB). As an average I'm hitting about £230 working 830-330 which is approximately 12-15 houses with most days moving about between clusters of houses and some being spent in the same road.

As a guide before I paid £12 an hour to the guy who worked for me and we were doing £335-420 depending on the work doing 830-4. So I'm not much worse off without him. Plus I'm motivated cos it's all for me at the end of the day.

I couldn't possibly expect an employee to be doing £300 on his own so not sure why you don't think he's earning you enough? When I've had one or two working for me providing I'm making more than I'm paying out in wages and PAYE/insurance etc then it was a bonus.

The drawback was putting up with all their whinging and moaning.

 

[blaze]

Hi Guys
We have a cleaner employed and he doesn't seem to be getting through the work

almost all small 2/3 bed £10/12 houses and a few £7 front only terraced WFP and doing around 10/15 customers a day with 4 years experience

we need to be doing £300 a day to pay canvassing, van, wages etc

what are people cleaning per day in terms of houses/cash ?

Hi Guys
We have a cleaner employed and he doesn't seem to be getting through the work

almost all small 2/3 bed £10/12 houses and a few £7 front only terraced WFP and doing around 10/15 customers a day with 4 years experience

we need to be doing £300 a day to pay canvassing, van, wages etc

what are people cleaning per day in terms of houses/cash ?

I dont think you have given enough information for us to evaluate his true worth

 

[Leeds]

I do anything from £2-300 on my own and the odd day is a bit more (£320 is my current PB). As an average I'm hitting about £230 working 830-330 which is approximately 12-15 houses with most days moving about between clusters of houses and some being spent in the same road.
As a guide before I paid £12 an hour to the guy who worked for me and we were doing £335-420 depending on the work doing 830-4. So I'm not much worse off without him. Plus I'm motivated cos it's all for me at the end of the day.

I couldn't possibly expect an employee to be doing £300 on his own so not sure why you don't think he's earning you enough? When I've had one or two working for me providing I'm making more than I'm paying out in wages and PAYE/insurance etc then it was a bonus.

The drawback was putting up with all their whinging and moaning.

This is about right for Leeds area too. Ask them to do £250 a day minimum, pay them 35% max, and the rest is yours, and if they don't hit that target without a good reason, take the difference from their wage (to a max of leaving them with minimum wage

 

[peter rogers]

This is about right for Leeds area too. Ask them to do £250 a day minimum, pay them 35% max, and the rest is yours, and if they don't hit that target without a good reason, take the difference from their wage (to a max of leaving them with minimum wage

lawsuit waiting to happen there

 

[Leeds]

lawsuit waiting to happen there

Is it the minimum wage thing?

 

[peter rogers]

U can't take money from someone's wage for not teaching targets. Lawsuit waitin to happen

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[Leeds]

U can't take money from someone's wage for not teaching targets. Lawsuit waitin to happen

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Apologies. I thought commission worked on a similar principle. Here's ya basic pay, here's ya target, you don't hit it, you don't get extra.

 

[Jamesndc]

Apologies. I thought commission worked on a similar principle. Here's ya basic pay, here's ya target, you don't hit it, you don't get extra.

From my experience if your wanting to employ several people and grow your business no good putting people on commission.

Some days they may not hit your targets, some days the will.

Employment is about respect give respect and you should get it back.

What noddy said earlier is completely right. I'd advise you to read some of the lads post on hear who already have experience in having multiple teams/vans in place.

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[Jamesndc]

Hi Guys
We have a cleaner employed and he doesn't seem to be getting through the work

almost all small 2/3 bed £10/12 houses and a few £7 front only terraced WFP and doing around 10/15 customers a day with 4 years experience

we need to be doing £300 a day to pay canvassing, van, wages etc

what are people cleaning per day in terms of houses/cash ?

I echo what the rest have said

Unrealistic targets you need to go back to drawing board

Also struggling to work out how you managed to do that many new cleans so quickly.

Something to consider staff will never work as hard as yourself, after all it's your business.

But treat them good and you should see it returned

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[Leeds]

From my experience if your wanting to employ several people and grow your business no good putting people on commission.Some days they may not hit your targets, some days the will.

Employment is about respect give respect and you should get it back.

What noddy said earlier is completely right. I'd advise you to read some of the lads post on hear who already have experience in having multiple teams/vans in place.

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Thanks mate!

 

[Jamesndc]

Thanks mate!

Sorry, that may of sounding quite abrupt reading it back lol

Wasn't really aimed at yourself either.

However, if you know your targets are achievable then there's no reason people shouldn't be on average hitting them.

Sometimes people are just not good enough.

To be honest it's s difficult balance to get right.

I've employed people for just over 10 years myself ( with my father over 20 years ) and just past year or so seemed to be getting everything put in place how I wanted it.

It's a steep learning curve and takes time to implement

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[Leeds]

Sorry, that may of sounding quite abrupt reading it back lolWasn't really aimed at yourself either.

However, if you know your targets are achievable then there's no reason people shouldn't be on average hitting them.

Sometimes people are just not good enough.

To be honest it's s difficult balance to get right.

I've deployed for just over 10 years myself ( with my father over 20 years ) and just past year or so seemed to be getting everything put in place how I wanted it.

It's a steep learning curve and takes time to implement

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Not at all mate, I'm here to learn, not have a chip on the shoulder. May have to ask you for advice in future?

My current model is, I expect you to do £250, which i can do most days. And you keep £87.50, I.e. £11.60 for a 7.5hour day. If you do more, you get more. If you do less for no reason, just dossing, then there's a penalty, you have to make it up that week, in your own time. There's not enough motivation on just an hourly rate I think long term. Giving them a figure to hit, that's a tangible end target. And if they surpass it, they finish earlier in the week, or you can pass them a gutter job or a first clean, which means better money for them and you.

Might not be the best way, just my current way.

 

[noddy]

Not at all mate, I'm here to learn, not have a chip on the shoulder. May have to ask you for advice in future?
My current model is, I expect you to do £250, which i can do most days. And you keep £87.50, I.e. £11.60 for a 7.5hour day. If you do more, you get more. If you do less for no reason, just dossing, then there's a penalty, you have to make it up that week, in your own time. There's not enough motivation on just an hourly rate I think long term. Giving them a figure to hit, that's a tangible end target. And if they surpass it, they finish earlier in the week, or you can pass them a gutter job or a first clean, which means better money for them and you.

Might not be the best way, just my current way.

plenatlys will put you in court and ruin you ask mike Ashley he will tell you all about this , the law takes a very dim view on this

when your staff is working free I would read the small print of your employees insureance as you will fine he wont be covered and again this could come back and ruin you what you need to understand is the laws on there side 100% and if your a sole trader they can take your house off you if you don't follow the law 100% and it ends in court , what you don't understand is the dole office wont give them any money until they look into why they now have no job , and not only that they will help your ex employee to sue youi putting them in touch with the right people

if hes using your van and as a crash you would have a hell of a fight if he wasn't getting paid , because hes not using it for work or s.d.p. they would class him as being a volenter which isn't covered as you need to pay extra for this

I get a lawer to do all my contracts and keep me right when things go wrong its worth the 15 pounds phone call ive had two friends get took to court buy ex workers both have lost both lost arounf 20k each buy the time its all added up have the wrong staff and need to move them on simple no need to keep flogging a dead horse

ive one guy that only does 15 jobs aday , never hits his rate (not by much ) yet plods on day in day out , never moans , we never get any bad feed back and never makes any mistakes , I would have 25 of these types of staff over 10 fast boys any day of the week

 

[Duncs]

thats what my mate is knocking out £150-£170 per day thats fine for me

 

[Duncs]

if you ngive your work mates crazy targets they wont stay long they will be off

 

[Solarpanelcleanington]

A lot of our customers choose us because we do not rush. They're sick of guys turning up and doing a ten minute job.

Take your time and price higher.

 

[Solarpanelcleanington]

A lot of our customers choose us because we do not rush. They're sick of guys turning up and doing a ten minute job.

Take your time and price higher.