Hse Pulling Blokes Up !

[Solar Steve]

Yep, I agree dodger. RC is right, the law doesn't say you can't climb your ladder, I was up mine today, but you have to be able to justify it with a risk assessment. That seems to be the insurance get out. Where could you justify using a ladder to access a window that your wfp won't reach? On a garage roof maybe. You could justify this on an assessment due to short duration of work and low risk etc. But all day everyday on ladders where wfp can be used? It doesn't wash with the health & safety exec anymore.

 

[Smurf]

Are you on about public liability dodger?

 

[Posh]

I don't think I'll bother with insurance next year, seriously whats the point in it if they won't pay out anyway.

Hey slate me for that but do you not wonder why some people don't bother.

Think ill join you on that one mate. I ain't paying out money knowing there try every trick in the book to get out of paying. Waste of time.

 

[rcproperty]

Think ill join you on that one mate. I ain't paying out money knowing there try every trick in the book to get out of paying. Waste of time.

But if things was done right they will pay out so not a waste of money, could u afford a £50,000.00 pay out or more?

 

[Solar Steve]

Think ill join you on that one mate. I ain't paying out money knowing there try every trick in the book to get out of paying. Waste of time.

It's not just public liability, every insurance that you take out is the same. They will always try to get out, but if you stay within the rules, they will pay out. Just because they try to get out does not absolve us from paying. You would be in more trouble with the police having no car insurance, than being insured and having your company try to wriggle out from paying.

Pay the insurance, stay within the law, if an accident does happen, which by their definition, they will, you will be covered by your insurance and get the pay out. If you pay the insurance, don't stay within the law and then have an accident, why should your insurance lay out because it is your own fault?

 

[Posh]

But if things was done right they will pay out so not a waste of money, could u afford a £50,000.00 pay out or more?

Just

 

[Posh]

Yer right all insurances try wriggle out of it. I must admit it does impress the odd custie that does ask to see it.

 

[rcproperty]

Just

Don't forget some costs go up to and beyond £1,000,000.00

That American window cleaner that lost his arms, just his medical bill was over $500,000.00

 

[Posh]

Don't forget some costs go up to and beyond £1,000,000.00

That American window cleaner that lost his arms, just his medical bill was over $500,000.00

I was kidding I could not afford that & I see yer point RC

 

[rcproperty]

I was kidding I could not afford that & I see yer point RC

you mean thats not pocket chage for you then? lol

 

[All Round Cleaning]

your best bet is to use vacume bags and bury it in the ground to a minimum of 8 ft to stop it being found !

 

[Smurf]

By the way chaps it is not a legal requirement to have public liability /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[Dodger]

I was kidding I could not afford that & I see yer point RC

And I was just ranting, I also see the point but makes ya blood boil.

 

[rcproperty]

And I was just ranting, I also see the point but makes ya blood boil.

yes it does, one minute they say you are insured but when it comes to paying out they try and use anything to get out of paying out!

 

[garyboy]

Why you all would want to be licensed beats me madness total and utter madness i have been and still are a hackney carriage taxi licence holder for years what used to be free now costs 2 weeks wages that is whst will happen to this game if you let the goverment run it you havent got a clue if you think it will cut down on people doing the job it will attract more if it is licensed you want to pay some goverment enforcement officer £300 a year to give you s license because that would be a stsrting figure for them to do psperwork then therr would be extras probably going in front of a panel if you get a conviction water testing if customer complains you have it easy dont be ruled by govenment i tell you know you will not like it. RANT OVER.

 

[Dodger]

Why you all would want to be licensed beats me madness total and utter madness i have been and still are a hackney carriage taxi licence holder for years what used to be free now costs 2 weeks wages that is whst will happen to this game if you let the goverment run it you havent got a clue if you think it will cut down on people doing the job it will attract more if it is licensed you want to pay some goverment enforcement officer £300 a year to give you s license because that would be a stsrting figure for them to do psperwork then therr would be extras probably going in front of a panel if you get a conviction water testing if customer complains you have it easy dont be ruled by govenment i tell you know you will not like it. RANT OVER.

Well I for one agree totally.

 

[GMcleaning]

Well I for one agree totally.

exactly what iv been saying the whole time, any licensing turns into revenue generating, it wouldnt stop dodgy cleaners as they dont care now about signing on and comitting fraud, 95% of custies will never ask to see it so they will just carry on, if anything it just means there overheads would be even lower than ours so they would be able to undercut even more!

 

[doug atkinson]

exactly what iv been saying the whole time, any licensing turns into revenue generating, it wouldnt stop dodgy cleaners as they dont care now about signing on and comitting fraud, 95% of custies will never ask to see it so they will just carry on, if anything it just means there overheads would be even lower than ours so they would be able to undercut even more!

I don't want to get into the politics of this but it will work if you have strong representation in the Industry. They will never get it 100% correct but if you give them a realistic target to hit they should hit it.

The only problem is you will NEVER please everyone.