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  1. 12 points
    Suhrly

    Anybody else hate the summer?

    Surely I can't be the only one who has come to hate working in the summer!?! The heat, the sweat, the sunburn, the flies, the insects, the webs. Getting in absolutely knackered from the heat. Customers coming out saying, 'You must be loving this weather?' As sweat is dripping off every inch of my body and I'm on the verge of keeling over. Actually, Keith, no I'm bloody well NOT enjoying this weather! Sure, I prefer it over not getting out to work at all due to rain or snow or whatever, but give me an overcast little bit on the chilly side day in March any day! 😂
  2. 10 points
    Green Pro Clean Ltd

    Raging, lost my first customer

    Yes but this is not a customer that you actually want. I would have said look here luv, and walked her to the window, then preceded to do a standard trad clean and point out that that's what she asked for, then I would have dipped in my pocket and whipped out the Unger Rub Out and done a small 6 inch sample patch on her window sill in front of her and shown her the difference, then discuss the price for a full UPVC restoration. Some you'll win and some you'll lose but remember this.......she's never going to be a loyal customer, she dumped her old windy when you came knocking (as you are a noob I guess he may have been a bit pricier than you perhaps) the second someone else knocks offering her what she considers a better offer you're out the door! I understand you are hungry right now but you're dodging a bullet here mate, cut out the cancer on day one and focus on getting a quality customer to replace her. As for raging?? Cup of tea and a Garibaldi biscuit will fix you right up!
  3. 8 points
    Clisty1989

    New van, little excited 😁

    Finally after 2 years of thinking about it I'm picking up my new van in 2 weeks 😁. 2011 kangoo full DIY system already in it. Although the tanks only a 200l I'll have a few quid left to buy a 350/400l. Needs a few things doing, like ripping out the old plywood and waterproofing the back, and the controller reading battery error with new leisure battery. Suffice to say I'm a little excited 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
  4. 8 points
    spruce

    Need advise on starting up wfp cleaning

    We were trad before going wfp. We bought a small round that had been done by trad cleaners who only cleaned the glass. We had to go the wfp route because the houses were mainly dormers and it wasn't safe to climb up roofs to clean the upper windows. The frames and cills were filthy. My first experience with wfp was a friend who had a glassfibre pole and let me clean a neighbour's window with it to try it out. (My friend bought the first system in our area but was a little hestitant converting all his customers from trad to wfp.) I then practiced on our own house windows and nervously headed off to clean this new round. (We own a dormer and I must have cleaned the front windows and door 50 times in a couple of days just to get the technique of cleaning them. I wanted to look as though I was an old hand at cleaning wfp infront of our new customers.There were no YouTube videos to watch and I didn't know about window cleaning forums. We had to learn wfp as we went along. That was neigh on 15 years ago.) Our new customers knew we were the new cleaners but Yorkshire people are very distrusting of 'strangers'. Here's a foreigner coming to clean our windows with a new type of window cleaning method wasn't a good start. And he left the windows wet. I managed 7 new cleans that first day having to scrub years to filth off window frames and cills. All windows got cleaned twice and a few got a third clean. A few weren't happy that the windows were left wet, so I just said I would collect payment when they were happy with the job. I finished that evening thoroughly disheartened. On my way to work the next morning I wondered what the heck I was doing. When I looked at the windows I had cleaned the previous day I couldn't believe the difference. They were clean and sparkled in the morning sunshine. I was actually very proud of the result and was sure everyone whose windows I had cleaned would be as well. Every householder came out to pay me and asked me to continue to clean with this new system. That lifted my spirits. News got round that estate that these new guy's system was brilliant and most were expecting me. However, this round was a 2 weekly round but on the second or third clean we got turned away as the windows were still clean. So we ended up with a 4 weekly round rather than every 2 weeks. I later tried to push a price increase their way not realising that they are a tight knit community and the round cancelled in bulk. We spoke to the previous cleaners and they told us that it had happened to them as well on two occassions so this is why the prices were low. They also told who the instigator was. So I told everyone who didn't accept a new price to find another cleaner. I was left with 6 houses out of the 90 + cleans we had purchased. We continued to clean the mother's house of the instigator which created a lot on tension in that family. We got a lot of walk ups and eventually over the next 6 to 12 months we were asked back to clean the majority of the houses we cleaned initially at the new price. So if you have a 2 weekly round, consider our experience and turn it into a 4 weekly round and double the price from £5 to £10. And be prepared to walk away from the customers you have who don't accept that. They are still paying the same monthly cost for window cleaning so it won't make much of a difference to them. If you don't you will regret cleaning them every time. Yes, you will have to increase your customer base, but you are going to have to do that anyway into the future. Yes each job you do should be quicker than trad eventually but it won't be to start off with. A trad cleaner has minimal startup equipment costs. WFP equipment can be anything up to 60 times more for a newish van and fitted system. Running costs are also much more.
  5. 7 points
    Pjj

    Never will understand people!!

    Well done for sticking to your guns some people think that they can dictate the price I would have done exactly the same as you , when he realises that that’s a fair price and comes back to you I would say I have had a price rise with my customers since I gave you that price it’s now £30 😂😂😂
  6. 7 points
    Viggers

    My first week.... OMG...

    Not many people understand how demanding and exhausting the window cleaning world is, unless your a fellow window cleaner. Hats off to us all. Im 12 years in. 550 customers and clean on my own.
  7. 7 points
    Part Timer

    My first week.... OMG...

    You wait till you're doing 24 houses a day each, 5 days a week, then you will know how tough it is 😲. Until you start to build the muscles you use all the time it will be tiring, you will also be putting to much pressure on and gripping the pole to tightly which will get better with experience. This is a physically demanding job that for 80% of the time is either to hot or to cold, it is however, as far as I know, the best paid manual job out there.
  8. 7 points
    Part Timer

    Raging, lost my first customer

    And why, if he was so good, was he her previous window cleaner. Obviously he binned her because she's a PITA, she owes you the apology.
  9. 7 points
    spruce

    Booked for tomorrow, now postponed until next month?

    Or as an old customer (now deceased) said to me once; "young man (she lied), I pay you to keep my windows clean, not clean them when they are dirty." I have never forgotten that reminder.
  10. 6 points
    Pjj

    Anybody else hate the summer?

    Lol funny you say that this is where I was this afternoon 😂😂
  11. 6 points
    Iron Giant

    Walked off a job today.

    Walked away from a job when I was doing the show houses on a sub-contract the sales woman wanted me to clean well over a 100mtrs of black painted metal railings not my job I told her I am here to clean the windows that's it, but the directors are coming this morning and they need cleaning, she wasn't happy at all 🤣 needless to say I lost the contracts the following week which was a blessing as they were doing my head in with early starts and the builders cleans as well. I am only interested in cleaning windows these days and that's it, I am fortunate to be very busy with windows but unfortunate to have a dodgy back and shoulders, but after over 19 years in this game it's about time I did what I wanted all of the time. Got an early finish today and off to a secret rave tonight no idea where until 7pm
  12. 6 points
    ks789

    Your idea of compact work

    Ive had to branch out of the town and into remote villages (well, not that remote but 10 miles, 20 minute drive away) but this aint as bad as it sounds. A) not much traffic etc out there and no traffic lights etc to hold you up. B) often big country houses which can be £30/40 or more so you still get your hourly rate C) makes a nice change, beautiful surrounds etc ( Also, tends to be not much competition out there.
  13. 6 points
    Skywalker

    My first week.... OMG...

    Hi all, My work partner and I we started our window cleaning round properly after the last few weeks just doing the odd customer as they trickled in, for the last month or so we have been out flyering and advertising hard, and we have managed to pick up 30 customers in the last month. Full of enthusiasm we started on Monday, rightly or wrongly we have not charged a first clean price, but being sticklers for a good job every house was was you Ubix’d and cleaned. We averaged 6-7 houses each day, all went well and had some fantastic feedback from all our customers either on the day or by text, I found it a little tiring but all was good. We had four days of work finishing with seven larger houses on the Thursday and OMG I feel exhausted! I have been a decorator for the last 10 years so I’m used to manual work but I must say it’s harder than I thought it was going to be. Also after four days I have about £200 in my pocket and (£200 in my work partners in my pocket), I know these are first cleans and next time should be much easier but wow I just wasn’t expecting it. i know maintenance cleans are quicker but still feel we have to speed up a lot to hit a decent wage. I won’t lie I used to see the window cleaner waving that pole about, then 10mins later he was gone with his cash, but my my, respect the window cleaner, it’s tough!
  14. 6 points
    Part Timer

    Undercut (not the issue) but how's the other guy doing it?

    We live in a different part of the UK, where I live you will struggle to get £15 for anything less than a 4 bed detached house. He is learning about pricing, we've had many newbies on here that have asked for pricing advice and you never see them again. At least he's earning money and learning how to do the job.
  15. 6 points
    Shammy Davis Senior

    Undercut (not the issue) but how's the other guy doing it?

    That’s bad advice. Price properly from the start or you will always be too cheap. Also, I’d rather charge £150 and only get one than do three for £50 each.
  16. 6 points
    Incheck

    Looking out for you guys please read

    Hey all, just had my first? I think 🤔 complaint of the year. Same as what happened last summer, bird poo baked on to the glass that hadn’t been completely removed. She also mentioned bits and bobs on other upstairs windows. Had a similar complaint last year from someone else during last years big heatwave. If you are wfp, especially cold water guys, be careful all. We haven't had any rain for a few weeks now and it has been hot so bird poos, dirt, etc is literally being baked on to the frames, sills etc and the usual style maintenance clean just wont shift it. All to easy to get carried away when maintenance cleaning guys, scrub longer, scrub harder, use more water, and get the ladder out to check those upstairs sills if you feel the wfp may not have done the trick. Its not much different to the effects heat has on getting an oven dirty and we all know they’re a nightmare to clean at the best of times. I’m admitting my faults in the hope it saves some of the rest of you being caught out. I’m sure we’ve all been there! cheers
  17. 6 points
    brianbadonde

    Looking out for you guys please read

    This is where the gardiners universal brush is handy with those tough side bristles. I also find it helps to give a quick scrub and rinse, move on to another window or two, then return and re-do when it’s softened up a bit.
  18. 6 points
    HWCS

    Just been undercut

    Just quoted a bloke £40 for a trad clean on 2 joining properties, he scoffed at the price Him "my old cleaner charged me £24" Me "what happened to him?" Him "he didnt turn up again" Me "thats because he under priced it and doesnt want the job now" Him "ok £40 does seem fair, when can you start?" Me "12th July" Another one added to the client base
  19. 6 points
    Slim

    Been lurking a while now

    Afternoon all, I've been reading and learning a lot from your forum. I've been thinking about starting power washing for a while and have finally decided to give it a go. Hopefully over time I'll gain experience and be able to contribute to the forum and help others in similar situations to myself.
  20. 6 points
    adamangler

    Booked for tomorrow, now postponed until next month?

    We've all been here don't worry about it but you need a system for new work. When I quote I give a 4 weekly price and an 8 weekly price. I then find out about access, if they need to be in then that's a no go. If access is poor i.e no where to park or long walk/drive round the back that's Alos a no go for me. If it's a text for a locked gate no problem. I also tell them if anytime we turn up and can't get in it's front only and billed accordingly (at least 50%) Payment via Bacs or go cardless. Then once the rules are set you simply carry out your end of the bargain. If any problems arise just remind them of the agreement and if it's an issue them drop them and get looking for a replacement. I dump all the time, every week I'm dropping someone for one reason or another. Just keep replacing and looking for better work everytime you drop one and eventually you end up with a 95% decent round. A perfect round does not exist....just when you think you are close someone turns into a messer.
  21. 6 points
    Daniel Perkins

    SMASHING IT!!!!

    You have to give him credit, takes balls, stress galore & serious hard work to do something like that. In an area where big nationals swamp work up I say fair play to him. Whilst I wouldn't advertise success like he seems to do & is fairly open about figures etc fair play to him. I can only give a tip of the hat to anybody who is successful in our game as it can be a tough slog. I would commend anybody on here that had took the leap to employ staff and has got a few vans on road. Remains to be seen if he has bitten off more than he can chew or maybe he wants to earn big and fast... time will tell. For me personally, I'm not interested in getting rich. All I want is to earn good money, go on a nice holiday every now and again & if I get ill or injured... not have to worry about my work falling apart. If I can do that, I will be a happy man.
  22. 6 points
    Part Timer

    Upto 50 customers

    This is how you learn to run a business, you will never learn without making mistakes. Contrary to a lot on here I think you're better off pricing jobs, in the early days, at a level to secure them. You can always put them up, or replace them, when established. You never will learn anything, including techniques, if you don't secure work to begin with. I'm not saying quote £5 on a £15 job but if you turn up at a job that you're not sure about then, personally, I'd go in on the lower end of my price range. If I'm cheap then so be it, can always up it later, can't knock on the door later and drop you're price when you've missed it. Class the first year as your apprenticeship, both in technique and learning how to run your business. This is why I think people that post about pricing advice, not knocking them, won't learn anywhere near as quickly as those that "go for it" Anyway to quote Mr Garwood, pub time
  23. 5 points
    AGlassAct

    Water heating wfp system

    I used to rave about the LPG heaters, they are cheap to buy, install and run (if you have a decent supplier close by). I’ve had two in my van - both have caught fire. I was adamant at the time a CE marked heater would be quality tested and safe to use but they (eBay ones) are poorly assembled cheap Chinese rubbish. I’ll dig out a picture of the last one that self destructed - basically the wiring melted inside and ‘smoked a little!!!’ id imagine a ‘mobile’ LPG heater would suffer with flame blowout quite a lot unless it was housed in some form of case. If I was tempted to do it again I’d get a proper caravan type LPG boiler. With regards to hot water - I wouldn’t be without it. I use mine all year round. Does it clean better - no, more thoroughly- most definitely! I’ve gone back to jobs that I’ve done first cleans on with cold and been amazed by the dirt that’s come out of all the seals and gaps. I use a diesel webasto heater in my van but still think the most reliable and simplistic way of heating water is by a van mounted immersion heater (installed correctly and with adequate house electrics)
  24. 5 points
    chris clean

    Never will understand people!!

    So I'm cleaning 2 houses next door to each other in a very nice area with big houses. A guy comes out of the house opposite and says "I see your not using ladders can I have a quote because the guys who do mine use ladders and have for the second time broken a tile walking on them to get to windows so I have told them not to come again" after cleaning i go over and he shows me round to give you an idea this house is worth upwards of 500 000 quid but when I looked round actually didn't have that many windows. As with his neighbours it's a £25 job for me. I tell him and he says " we have a problem then cos my old cleaner was only £20" so I said well if that's what you want to pay I would stick with him but I am fully insured and have £2000 worth of kit in my van that means I dont have to use ladders and walk on your roof. He says I tell you what " do it for £20 and you can have cash" so i just said no thanks mate all your neighbours pay full price and i have 3 quotes to do today who more than likely will all sign up with my prices too so if you want a cheap clean you will have to put up with the cheap standard and turned and walked. Just wonder what goes through peoples heads it's like going into BMW dealer and going my old Ford worth 5k keeps breaking down but I want everything a brand new BMW has to offer me but for 5k!
  25. 5 points
    Doddy111

    Leaflet test let’s see how I do

    I spoke to a window cleaner recently that told me he sends out 10,000 leaflets a month and after 3-4 months he can get another van on the road and obviously with Mr Pryors recent claims I thought f*ck it I’ll give it a shot. I’ll be putting 20k a month out for the next 3 months and if anyone’s interested I’ll keep track of the enquires and let you know how I get on. I’d be interested to know if anyone else on here puts out leaflets and if so how many a month/year and what kind of returns do you get.
  26. 5 points
    Incheck

    Never will understand people!!

    you’re better off without mate it would be an insult to your paying customers by giving in to somebody who’s trying to scrimp it. Even if, as you said, it “didn’t have that many windows” the cost of replacing the glass on one of them is still significant. And you’re right, you show up with years of experience and thousands of pounds worth of kit, people don’t realize that’s what they’re paying for
  27. 5 points
    Pjj

    New pole needed

    As far as Ime concerned Gardiners poles are hard to beat for value for money and longevity so why buy anything else it’s a proven product , just my ten pens worth 😂😂
  28. 5 points
    Den

    Undercut (not the issue) but how's the other guy doing it?

    This forum is invaluable for knowledge and help I have pick up so much info from here, everyone as to start somewhere regardless and it's easy to quote too low or too high when starting out I know I have still do on the odd occasion the beauty is the more regulars clients you have the higher you can quote new clients without the worry of losing your regulars.
  29. 5 points
    Part Timer

    Absolute charmers our great British public.

    Easy answer is anything from £10 to £1000 depending on the size of your house
  30. 5 points
    Apw1210

    Water fed pole pump trolley & control box project complete

    Good evening all. I've finished my build project of my custom trolley build If anyone wants to build one and needs any help or pointers feel free to ask I can supply a full detailed parts list and wiring diagrams if needed Heres mine
  31. 5 points
    Haz

    Undercut (not the issue) but how's the other guy doing it?

    Stop worrying about being undercut and concentrate on new potential customers instead, the customers that you lose via being undercut are the customers u do not want! U will always get people cheaper then u where ever u go... but what comes in to play is the loyalty of your own customers, once you have loyal customers and u do a good job and offer a good service and keep the customer always happy that is when u do not need to worry about being undercut 🙂 I do a 3 bed semi for £8.00 but other window cleaners have knocked on the door and quoted £4/5, the customer chooses to stay with me because they are happy with the service. So if u do a good job then u do not need to worry about being "undercut" , anyone who does a poor job will always be worried about undercutters 😄
  32. 5 points
    Pjj

    Looking out for you guys please read

    This is why we went over to hot water we do a lot of costal work and it’s covered with seagull poo they are feeding on mackerel and sprats at the moment and the poo is very oily and sticks to the glass once dry like concrete, wether using hot or cold I have found it beneficial to give each bitbof poo a very light rub and spray with water before cleaning the windows then clean as normal going over the poo more times than normal this does solve the problem , hot is obviously quicker than cold but you will get there eventually 😂😂😂
  33. 5 points
    cleaniac

    A REALLY CLOSE CALL

    Just thought i'd better start posting up on here, not used to the new layout but i'm sure I will get there. I had a really close call the other day. About 2 months ago, i picked up this new customer from a recommendation. A fairly sizeable house, not a mansion, not a typical detached house; sort of a mini country house. Anyway, I agree the 1st clean price of £120 as she wanted her lantern cleaned on the annex with all windows, all is well so booked it in and started cleaning. As I climbed up onto the roof and approached the lantern, it felt really spongy and "bed" like? so i thought...oooh I wont stand on that bit. Anyway did the clean, and told the customer that they have a very soft patch on the flat roof that needs looking at, " Ok she said no worries" Two month later, and im doing the regular £60 clean..no lantern (Just this Monday gone) her mother comes out and blerts out " You know the roof?" and i'm like what roof?? " The roof that was squidgy!" Oh yeah i said, what about it... "It collapsed through the kitchen only two days after you had been on it, left a massive hole in the roof and shattered the kitchen table" I was like, oh flip. She took me round and showed me, a third of the roof was missing, they put tarp to hold off the rain, but if i was on that roof, i would have ended up falling 30 foot down through the kitchen table, with bits of roof following me onto a hard marble floor!!! So that's my lucky escape... If you notice any sponginess on a roof, come down immediately!! Do not stay up there.
  34. 5 points
    Skywalker

    Need advise on starting up wfp cleaning

    Hi, I’m new to Wfp, started 3 weeks ago after being a decorator for 10years, I dont think you need a course if you have common sense and do your research, the guys on here are great and helpful, and I just practiced loads on family and friends. Plenty of YouTube videos too like Green Pro clean👍 I definitely don’t know it all in 3 weeks but so far my customers are happy and I’m getting good reviews. i know I’m slow and use to much water at times but I’m sure with time that will pick up. Its scary at first but you just have to take the plunge. Good luck 👍
  35. 5 points
    Damo

    South east show me the ropes

    I'm in Bedfordshire and you're more than welcome to jump in a van with me for the day or with one of my franchisee's. I don't mind helping out others because more times the not through talking to new people I think of something new or learn something.
  36. 5 points
    Iron Giant

    Booked for tomorrow, now postponed until next month?

    I don't accept cancellations without a valid reason and issues at work ain't a valid reason for me they need to elaborate a little otherwise they would be getting charged or hit with a higher charge next clean, you need this sorting out in your own head and how to deal with this sort of thing with an appropriate reply.
  37. 5 points
    HWCS

    Upto 50 customers

    A month further down the line from my OP and im upto around 100 customers, my pricing had got better and im feeling alot more confident in giving what i feel is a decent price for a decent job. Avg house is being priced at £1.00-1.50 a window down £1.50-2.00 a window up £7-15 a conservatory depending on size Same for internal windows. Ive invested in all new equipmemt from WCW as opposed to BnM/Homebase. Things are going well and i finish my job as a baker on 26th June to do wimdows full time. Alot of this is due to sound and solid advice from this forum. Many thanks guys
  38. 4 points
    Nudel

    Advice on increasing prices....... carefully?

    Do a calculation. If you double your prices you can afford to loose half your customers. I usually like to do it on the last invoice of the year. "New price in 2020: 15£". Never had a complaint that way.
  39. 4 points
    Ana

    Anybody else hate the summer?

    Your not alone @Suhrly I must admit my ideal cleaning day is a mild overcast day, no rain just patchy cloud, not to hot not to cold.......... you know typical British summers day 😂.
  40. 4 points
    steve garwood

    Your idea of compact work

    I have a road (Hayes lane, Bromley) that takes us three and a half days to do (been doing it for over 25 years though) 👍
  41. 4 points
    The Cleaning Warehouse

    Titan 30ft Pole Raffle for dementia

  42. 4 points
    Redditch windy

    What size tank suitable for a VW Caddy? 🤔

    i run a swb caddy with a 350ltr tank,does me all day no probs. if you are a sole trader using over 500ltrs in a day imo just must be really careless with water conservation
  43. 4 points
    Pjj

    dirty water coming out of window vents

    By avoiding the problem you are making it worse every visit you do having to make sure you don’t get water in the vents , we deliberately scrub and wash out the vents thoroughly on the first clean I don’t care if it takes twise as long as I charge more for most first cleans any way , but then all subsequent cleans I know we won’t have any issues at all , avoiding vents is not the answer cleaning them well is .
  44. 4 points
    Cghwindowcleaning

    Sign writing. selling your business

    Mine is plain and simple.
  45. 4 points
    Green Pro Clean Ltd

    Bit on the side

    I am a fan of George, I think one of the best artists for a generation and on the telly seems a very genuine lad as well. Loved his Radio two interview where her talked about making the Staying At Tamaras album. As for property, 20 years ago people were saying 'I'm probably 20 years too late' and 20 years before that and so on. You're not, you just look at it wrong (IMO) The reason the Indians, the Polish etc seem to be able to buy up endless property is they put pride aside, they get partnered up with like minded people to be sure that they are not waiting alone until they get enough money for that first buy, they will put in any of the work they can themselves so they need not pay someone if they don't have to and they will start at the ground up with one little terrace you or I probably wouldn't entertain. A fellow window cleaner I know fell in love with Turkey, bought a small 'villa' there, stayed a few weeks then decided to hire an agent to let it out as holiday lets, it got booked 18 plus months in advance, so he bought another, same again, and now has a third and lives their full time, all in three years. Our story? We have the window cleaning franchise, still growing, my wife invests in 'lots' (parcels of land) ((Including plots in cemeteries)) in the Philippines where the value can double almost every year, we have some other small business interests there as well, and she has her lead generation business here also. I was a professional photographer before retirement from that industry in 2005 but got to travel the world and back taking images all over. These are filed with 5 of the top stock agencies and I still earn passive income from their sales when people buy the rights to use the image on a project, have had all sorts from the cover of Greek Vogue to book covers for the Italiys top murder mystery writer, to my most proud achievement, a first class stamp in 2011 for the Royal Mail and World Wildlife Foundation of an Amur Leopard, a tricky creature to track and many more projects As I age I think more about passive income again so I continue to grow the franchise and have made a move towards relighting my passion for photography and videography and do a little most days, beats binge watching Netflix, that's for sure.
  46. 4 points
    spruce

    Booked for tomorrow, now postponed until next month?

    How long have you been doing the job? From the post it sounds as though you've just done the first clean. How dirty were the windows when you cleaned them? Are you in the area on the 22 July? As has been often stated, you have to clearly set your stall out at the beginning. ( First clean price, 4 weekly price or 8 weekly price with them choosing the period). If you did and the customer is moving the goal posts, then this isn't a job I would persue tbh. But then I would say that as I don't need the work and so see things differently to someone who does. In our early window cleaning days when we needed the work I would probably have seen what happens on the 22nd July. But I would text closer to the date to confirm. If you get another excuse then you have your answer.
  47. 4 points
    Chris34

    What would you charge?

    The way I price (I've only been going 5 months) is to walk around the house and work out how long I think each window will take me to clean and I don't work it out in seconds but in minutes. So those velux windows for me are 3 minutes for each one. That big massive window above the double doors is 8 minutes. The front door is 2 minutes, the windows either side is 3 minutes each. I then add up all the minutes and that gives me the total time. Now doing it this way ensures that you don't under price the job, overpricing is fine, underpricing is not fine. This method is designed to compensate for all those readjustments. Yes those velux windows might not take 3 minutes to actually clean them, but what about the time to extend the pole, the time to go and tend to any snags, moving chairs / plant pots. You see it's not just the actual time to clean the window. So for me that job comes in at 1 hour 20 minutes and I know that I can do it in that time. It won't be a case of quoting for 30 minutes and finding it takes 45 minutes. It's working for me anyway and I don't seem to get any problems. I do tell the customers that I'm very thorough and I do the job right which seems to set me apart. But even if you think my times are too long and you're the fastest windy in the west, well my method would still work, you just reduce the minutes per window to suit your speed / standard of work. The key thing is that you don't want to under price the work, if you're quoting for 30 minutes and it's taking you 45 then you're doing it wrong.
  48. 4 points
    Pjj

    leisure battery question

    If the controller is turned off at the end of the day it will not drain the battery evan the ones that have a frost stat only draw a tiny bit of power to monitor temperature. The controller should not need re calibrating as far as Ime aware after disconnecting the battery’s I have never needed to re calibrate mine after doing that
  49. 4 points
    Suhrly

    What would you charge?

    This is everything Spruce. The amount of times I've heard 'advice' on here saying 'you're prices are too low etc etc'...ok mate I'll put my prices up and charge X amount. Thanks, now I can't sleep at night for the fear I know I went too high and now that customer will be looking for someone else and will drop me the first chance they get. I know cos it's happened to me. You have to be very careful. That's why I would only take advice from the cleaners in your area. What's the point of us up here in the North East asking for pricing advice and the London guys to say £35 for what we would or more specifically, COULD charge £10...?? Yes you COULD charge them £35, but don't expect to have their custom for very long. This game is a marathon not a sprint.
  50. 4 points
    Part Timer

    What would you charge?

    Personally, my view on this is is a waste of time. Once someone asks ground floor only they don't want a window cleaner, they want someone to quote a stupid low price so they don't have to do them. Hope I'm wrong.
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