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  1. Martyn

    My Family pulled a blinder.

    My Family pulled a blinder on me tonight, we went out for a meal on the old tenner fest, (I'm a tight git) Just before coffee they took me outside and presented me with a new van, to say the least I am gobsmacked. In the last few days they have sourced my ideal van, had a local business import, register, prepare and hide it, snuck it to the sign writer and got it to the Hotel without my having a clue. I can't believe it. I'm gonna have to clean a lot of windows to pay for this one.
    15 points
  2. ched999uk

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    It all depends on what you call 'live well'. We have relatives that get new iPhones each year on contract, lease cars, think nothing of spending £70 on a takeaway, have full Sky TV. They both have a decent income so don't worry about money. We buy reasonable phones when the old ones are no longer fit for purpose, have £7 contracts (unlimited mins/txt and 10Gb), run a 8 year old car (zero road tax, 60+mpg), think twice before spending £20 on a takeaway. We have a budget for weekly shopping. We are careful with our money and consider purchases carefully. We don't have a mortgage and minimise our outgoings. We have savings and do spend them when we decide to on stuff we want - had a good few cruises, had a motorhome and tow car, had a static caravan etc.... It all depends on your priorities and what you want.
    6 points
  3. Bart90

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    You can't in material terms but the best thing about this job is you can earn a full time wage on practically part time hours. I used to do full days, but priorities changed with kids. Would rather take home less and have more time right now. I think it just depends what you want and where you are in life.
    5 points
  4. YNWA1988

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    Usually between 12-16 houses per day. 4-6 hours per day. 3 days a week.
    5 points
  5. Part Timer

    Customers & time to get them

    You have to remember you're probably not the only one in your area chasing work. Some people are lucky, with hard work, to have an area short of quality window cleaners and get up and running very quickly. Your area might have plenty of good ones so it will take you longer. Never set hard and fast growth targets as this puts you under unnecessary pressure.
    5 points
  6. spruce

    Undervaluing our work

    This is a very interesting read. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22722572/undercharging-contractors-labor-gig-economy?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
    4 points
  7. K in Kent

    Best machine for starting out?

    Have you given much thought to how you're gong to get work coming in? Because it seems to me that some people spend alot of time thinking about their kit, and all their money, but give no thought to how they're going to get work and have no money left over to invest in establishing / growing their business. Then they find themselves with plenty of nice equipment but no work - and it's not just going to magically turn up. I'm not saying this applies to you but is something to think about. Also bear in mind pressure washing is particularly seasonal and there's not much work about during the winter.
    4 points
  8. spruce

    Canvassing companies in 2021

    IMHO it's all to do with how we see the situation. It's not nice to get rejected with No's which can be soul-destroying. But when you look at the bigger picture, what you are doing is individually promoting your business to the general public; to whoever answers the door. What you are doing by door knocking is raising your profile in the local area. They may have a windie, but they now 'know' of another one they have met and spoken to. Even if they say no, give them your calling card in case they hear of one of their family or friends locally who needs your services. Every time they see you around working, even if it's in another area, they are reminded of your first door knock and who you are. That's another imprint added to their mind and reinforcing their memory. We are watched and observed by the public where ever we go. We have a few customers who watched us work for many years in the neighbourhood before asking us to clean their windows. I can't believe how many people know me by name who I have never met before. My van isn't sign written, but it amazes me how many people recognize me and my van and wave when passing. Rome wasn't built in a day; it's the same with building a window cleaning round. It can take many years, more so now than in times past. That door knock whose response was a 'no' could become your customer in the years to come.
    4 points
  9. Chris34

    Undervaluing our work

    I completely respect all your advice on here and agree with most of the things you say, however the idea that a shiny new van is going to provide more work is false. My van is old, a bit tatty and I rarely wash it. The inside is always a mess. It's not that I like it that way, but it's just how I am. However it's not held me back from getting more work. My rates are getting ridiculous now, so this perception that a new van or even just a clean shiny van will make a difference is just false. I liken it to a bloke going into a bar with the best shoes, expensive watch, nice expensive clothes and expecting to get women fall at his feet. You then get some scruffy git stroll in like he doesn't give a **** and he pulls a hot looking woman, how? The answer to both is confidence, confidence in your own self is what sells. When you believe in yourself you can almost do what you like, it's like you're invincible and the more success you get the more invincible you feel so you ask for more, you get more, you feel more and more invincible. It's like a snowball effect. If you believe a new van will give you success it will give you confidence in a way but the first no you get will knock you. If you have pretty much nothing fancy to show [i operate from a trolley as well] but are getting lots of yes' then that gives you so much confidence as you know it's purely you're own self that is getting it right. I'm not saying get a tatty van for ultimate success, but the idea a new van separates the successful from the unsuccessful is false. I'm close to earning 50 an hour now on new work and I drive one of those bangers. End of the day people want good service, that's turning up regular, doing as good a job as you reasonably can, being friendly, looking washed shaven and smart, communicating well and being friendly. The ones that fail can't get these basics right, I hear it all the time.
    4 points
  10. Skxawng

    Univalve versions

    No not yet. I've been testing my replacements and found occasionally it doesn't turn off on the first pull. I've found the problem is with the spring and although the free length is the same, the compressed length of the replacement spring is a tiny bit too long by about 0.3mm. It's just enough to prevent the latching ring from fully rotating. The reason is that the replacement spring has one too many active coils giving it a smaller pitch than is needed. I'm just getting quotes for the correct spring custom made but I'm in Scotland with barely any signal all week!
    4 points
  11. ched999uk

    Undervaluing our work

    We used to run holiday apartments and in the first year just priced as previous owners. We took over in November (effectively closed season) and carried out a fair bit of work over the winter. Were worried that we needed income so needed every booking. We were booked up within the first week of January for kids holidays! The phone would continue to ring and we didn't have any vacancies. Some of the people were not the best and we had a few 'issues'. So the following year we raised our prices by 100%, we received fewer bookings but they were the people willing to pay for decent accommodation and much more respectable! Plus we had about half the work for the same money so more profit! Work smarter not harder!!!!
    4 points
  12. Davy G

    Undervaluing our work

    It is an interesting read, for sure. Real food for thought. I've worked in several different, mostly working class careers since leaving school at 14 years of age in about 1970, just over 50 years ago. Each career quite different to the others, different chapters in the same book : Mobile burger/chip van trader at 14 years of age, delivery van driver, night watchman with Major, my beefy German Shepherd, motorway construction labourer, pipeline labourer, utility contractors labourer (water, gas, fibre optical cable, and sewage treatment works construction) ; later, fusion welder on polyethylene water mains, specialist assistance and show dog breeder (Labradoodles and Bullmasiffs), smallholder, garden maintenance, artic bulk haulage driver. One of the most important decisions I made at a very young age was that I was not going to be the same as everyone else just to fit in. I was quiet and conscientious but I refused to be mediocre. I saught modest adventures: night surf sea angling, rock-hopping wave dodging sea angling, white water kayaking, surf kayaking, sea kayaking and coaching, wild camping. At work, I would ask respectfully for and usually get a pay increase when others, often the gobby ones, would be afraid to ask. I made it known, I was paying a mortgage, running a nice though old car and was trying to build and improve my life. This is a tip I give to everyone starting out : Have vision and imagination. Stand out whether as a professional or, when new in business, strive to be professional in whatever we do. Respect ourselves and charge a fair (but higher end of) rate for our work. Don't price cheaper than necessary for fear of not getting work. Quality and professionalism goes a long way towards selling itself. The courage to be firm and tenacious is a crucial ingredient in building a thriving and vibrant business. I still see some of the same windys trading that I was seeing 7 years ago. Some are still driving tatty old bangers with bits of rope holding the ladders on the car roof (surviving). Happy with their lot, I guess. Good for them. Others, who came across as professional at the time have built up busy and prosperous looking rounds and noticibly improved their businesses in the same area and the same roads (thriving) . Which one would a serious type of customer rather see parked outside and working on their property? Which one would they rather the neighbours to see parked and working at their house? Several other windys have come and gone in my seven years trading. I have seen more different traders in the last few weeks than I have seen in a long time but I won't be changing tack unless it's absolutely forced upon me by sheer numbers of undercutting competition. I'm quietly confident in the strength and stability of my business. "Hold the line and refuse to be mediocre." We'll be alright.
    4 points
  13. ched999uk

    Customers & time to get them

    Don't get disheartened it's just a game of numbers. As long as you look professional, are pleasant and cheerful you will get customers. I'm not sure how quickly you will get 260 customers but you can do it, just don't put yourself under too much pressure. You need some rest days or you will just be too tired to do a good job. Try a slightly different area - I tried a few areas near me and some are better than others. Also I have had customers keep leaflets for a couple of months before contacting me or passing them to a family member or friend. I have even had customers I quoted for 2 months ago come back to me and ask me to clean after initially saying I was way too expensive, I left them the quote and they called back 2 months later!!! So just keep plodding on in the knowledge that the next door you chap might be a new custy or even bring you 3 or 4. I had 1 customer recommend me to their 2 neighbours even before I had cleaned her windows. So you never know what is round the corner.
    4 points
  14. Jaygti

    Am i the only one?

    Sounds like a marketing ploy. “Free window clean” sounds good, but he’s probably just incorporating the clean into his overall price. It’s a bit like the “OAP discount “ I mentioned in another thread awhile back.
    4 points
  15. Iron Giant

    Undervaluing our work

    I get what you are saying, no different to what @Davy G was saying really, I had no issue in picking up work when I worked out of a 35k L200, but I don't need a new a van and my bills are more focused elsewhere in renovating our house I always did look after my motors but haven't for some time now, my steels look battered even with wheel trims on and it's well overdue a wash and detailing, but I'm still gaining work my plan from today is order some alloys and wash and detail the van this weekend, an old motor that is very well looked after can look as good as new brand motor that isn't, just take a look around when you are out and about over the next few days I have seen 30-50k motors look like because they ain't been cleaned in weeks and see 10 year old+ motors that look pristine look a whole load better and at a glance not as old as they are because they are very well looked after.
    3 points
  16. Baldmonkey

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    There is no logic to see, it was merely a statement of a day. Its not how I normally work, it just so happened that day and made me interested in other people's day. Yes there is no hard and fast rule and obviously far to many variables to have any scientific significance but again I'm not implying that a doctoral thesis is being written about it, nor shall I be publishing any scientific research... Just asking a broad question, nothing more nothing less
    3 points
  17. Part Timer

    Undervaluing our work

    It's been like this since 2 years after Euro 6 came out. Most people that could afford a newish van wouldn't buy a Euro 5. Admittedly a fair bit worse at this present moment but even when the car / van production sorts itself out I think the difference will still mean a new van will be a better purchase. Early part of this year when I started to look for another van a 3 year old Traffic / Vivaro with 40k on the clock was £15k + VAT, now £18k + VAT, when I paid £20.5k, Inc VAT, for a brand new one OTR, so just over £2k more. Absolute no brainer.
    3 points
  18. steve garwood

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    Really don’t see the logic of burning yourself out by not having lunch and racing around like a blue ar5e fly. And the question is a bit vague as it’s dependent on how big the houses are etc. A good example of this is myself on Friday. I will only do 3 houses all day . They are very big and £80 a pop
    3 points
  19. Apw1210

    Portable shower/propane systems

    It's not BS It's the true outcome of faulty or poorly maintained cheap equipment A fault regulator, damaged hose or not standardised thermocouples can let gas escape quickly into a vehicle and cause a big bang.
    3 points
  20. THL4KEL

    Never seen this before

    If there are a load of obstacles and you need for example 20m of hose to get to the furthest window, just walk down the street and pull of 20m of hose in a straight line and then walk back and pick up the hose every five meters and then just drop sections around the obstacles on the way to the furthest window.
    3 points
  21. Pjj

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    The number of houses per day isn’t what’s important it’s the total days taking that’s important, when doing compact 3 bed modern estate houses we do between 5-7 per hour per man some days two guys per van we are doing 80- 112 but a mean average is more like 80-90 that’s actual window cleaning for 8 hours per day , that’s very compact work only moving a few hundred yards per day . But if doing larger manor houses might only do 2-6 per day depending on size .
    3 points
  22. tench0771

    Best waterproof jacket for our work???

    I no first hand these dont leak ive been out in some really wet and stormy wether these keep you bone dry
    3 points
  23. swc1

    My Family pulled a blinder.

    Nice van. Congrats, now take that van and earn enough extra to take your family on a nice surprise vacation!!
    3 points
  24. Cookie

    Customers & time to get them

    One way of looking at it is that every "No" you get, you are one closer to a "Yes". Also it's a case of "getting yourself out there". I found that a lot those who turned me down when I originally canvassed actually approached me a few months/even years later - if they see you turning up regularly and get good reports re: your work they will be far more willing to take you on & generally speaking when they approach you (rather than vice-versa), you can usually price higher.
    3 points
  25. ched999uk

    Customers & time to get them

    I use business cards with pre printed stickers on the back with space to put quote prices in and another with 'I cleaned your windows today' balance = £xx and my bank details on the back. Saves having separate invoices printed especially for domestic custy. I also carry business cards on me when cleaning, so no need to go back to car for leaflet. That said my business cards are more like short adverts with my contact details on.
    3 points
  26. Pjj

    Customers & time to get them

    I was made redundant and started window cleaning ones knew I had been made redundant and helped to try and get me customers, I was well know in the area having lived hear from a child but many customers recommend me to friends and family to try and help . An apprentice electrician cannot re wire your house unless he’s supervised and to be honest the checks that are done on his work will be far higher than a qualified guy who might try and cut corners , but I understand what you are saying but in my case it worked well and within 4 months had gained over 400 customers I still have the vast majority of them some 22 years later .
    3 points
  27. JohnDoeWindows

    Am i the only one?

    Pretty standard I think, I sometimes say the same thing depending on the vibe I get from the customer. What bores me is a local window cleaner near me offering a free first clean, period. That's ludicrous!
    3 points
  28. Part Timer

    Undervaluing our work

    The first thing we did with both new vans was put a private plate on so the jealous custys didn't know they were brand new.
    2 points
  29. Pjj

    Never seen this before

    As far as Ime aware it’s not a production thing you can buy he had prototypes made but cost many thousands of £££ and it wasn’t viable to sell to customers at that price last time I spoke to Jordan he was trying to get a firm to mass produce them cheaper . We have fixed reels in the vans but also carry free standing ones for some jobs .
    2 points
  30. YNWA1988

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    Indeed. I love new builds. Small windows. Easy and quick to clean. My best days work is all on new estate 19 houses.
    2 points
  31. Adman

    Univalve versions

    If you get them working I'd buy off you
    2 points
  32. Apw1210

    Never seen this before

    #teammanualreel I'm with you on that. Not something I've ever needed or wanted. Happy with my manual reels and it's free exercise
    2 points
  33. Martyn

    Never seen this before

    @Davy GI don't think the Power Up 3D is as heavy as many manual reels, it's the hose and water that's always the heavy bit.
    2 points
  34. Davy G

    Best waterproof jacket for our work???

    That's the one.
    2 points
  35. spruce

    Univalve versions

    Yes they did and Electrolux tried to use that as a marketing tool. Some 25 years ago Bosch Germany decided that the best way of selling new items rather than spares was to make the price of key parts prohibitively expensive. So the price of a replacement armature was around 65% of the retail German price of the whole tool. Once you add labour and transport to the cost of the repair it was uneconomical to repair that tool. (The Germans are the only people in the world who will pay full retail price for everything. So for us in South Africa the cost of that armature could be very close to the price we were selling the whole tool for.) We had a front motor bearing fail in our 3 year old Bosch washing machine a few years back. I couldn't find anyone locally who had a press to remove the drive pulley off the armature shaft so I could replace just the bearing. A new motor was £260 + VAT where a complete new, latest model, Bosch washing machine was £365 including VAT from Curry's. A local repairer charges £80 to take the washing machine away a fit a new motor. Granted he loans you a washing machine while he quotes/repairs yours. (Bosch still advertises one of the best after sales service repair facilities, but the main repairs are now specialized machines such as rotary hammers and paving breakers.) Bosch are also very crafty. They put soft carbon brushes in the washing machine motor that wear quickly. Replacing worn carbon brushes is not a warranty issue. It's classed as fair wear and tear. Again, our local repairer charges £80 + VAT plus replacement parts to do that job. I still have a Bosch 9" 2200 watt angle grinder I bought back in 1988. I mainly use it in a cut-off stand to cut steel. I don't use it much these days. Out of moz I went to Bosch UK online and priced up a replacement armature for that grinder. £660 + VAT and they had one in stock in Denham. Who is mad enough to buy that when they could get 5 new Grinders for the same price? Rant over!
    2 points
  36. Redditch windy

    How many houses per day?? Today I did

    work to live, not live to work! i do the bare minimum just to pay bills and a small amount of pin money
    2 points
  37. Davy G

    Best waterproof jacket for our work???

    The Dover Jacket will, unless possibly working all day in a deluge. Better than any other coat I've ever had. We won't stay out in an all day deluge. Can't see a need to. We don't get monsoon seasons so we can always catch up.
    2 points
  38. Pjj

    Never seen this before

    This is what we do , if needing to go 40 meters in front of the van either walk 40 meters behind it pulling hose out then walk in front of van or pull off enough those in loops behind the van and drag the loops dropping them as you go forward , sounds complicated but easy in practice .
    2 points
  39. Pjj

    Jet washer swirls in my tarmac

    You need a more powerful pressure washer with higher flow and or a flat surface cleaner or a fan jet nozzle rather than a turbo or pencil jet , will be difficult to get good results with a small karcher, sorry
    2 points
  40. Apw1210

    Jet washer swirls in my tarmac

    Are you using a karcher domestic or a flat surface cleaner with almost pencil jets as apposed to fan jets. Tarmac is deep porous substrate which holds dirt deep within it's structure and pressure washer with either the incorrect equipment or jetting can produce horrendous results Looks like a karcher K4 with their dirt blaster tiny turbo nozzle
    2 points
  41. windowsurfer

    Best waterproof jacket for our work???

    I've used goretex jackets, they aren't that great so far, can't believe how bad jackets are.
    2 points
  42. Davy G

    Best waterproof jacket for our work???

    Regatta Dover Jacket without a doubt for me. Breathable, warm, fully waterproof, smart looking. Comfortable length for working and driving (bomber jacket style). Inexpensive, around £30. Last for years. Good range of colours I choose navy blue as it's our uniform colour.
    2 points
  43. Martyn

    My Family pulled a blinder.

    My Son got a Fiat Talento this summer, the colour is very similar and the sign writing is the same, will be interesting to see them side by side.
    2 points
  44. scottish cleaning service

    Gutter Vacuum inspection camera tethers

    I found having the camera on the vac pole was no good. I think it would be better on a wfp and take a look at gutter after each stretch.
    2 points
  45. Martyn

    My Family pulled a blinder.

    A tatty old faded red VW T4, tough old workhorse but hard work to drive. Now I think we have the smartest window cleaning vans on the island.
    2 points
  46. Pjj

    My Family pulled a blinder.

    Very nice Ime really pleased for you just got to fit it out now I guess unless they have done that as well
    2 points
  47. Jamesmarshall

    Customers & time to get them

    Last winter I got more customers than in the summer the previous year Newer windys will pack up in winters when **** hits the fan. Those customers are the ones you want as they’ll start looking very shortly after they’re last cleaner should have came Windows are dirtier in the winter months as i never forget to point out to anyone asking if you “work through the winter” Every area is different no one can predict how long it will take anyone you could gain 50 in a month then 50 in the next 11 combined Keep smiling doing a good job doing small extra jobs like inside kitchen windows for people when your starting out and your customers will fly up
    2 points
  48. Tuffers

    Customers & time to get them

    I would say that telling potential customers you're a new business might put some off, no experience etc. Would you want an apprentice sparky re wiring your house or a qualified one? Be positive and believe in yourself. When knocking doors you could tell a few porkies like your cleaning for a customer a few doors up...40 customers after 5 weeks is really good. At this rate it'll be 80 after 10 weeks, 160 after 20 weeks...the other thing is that when your building you're gaining experience and speed so when you've got more customers than you can shake a pole at you'll be up and running
    2 points
  49. steve garwood

    Window cleaning around the world!

    Wouldn’t move anywhere. Completely happy where I am. 25 minutes from central London on the train, 10 minutes from the Kent countryside, 15 minutes from the Essex border, 35 minutes from the coast, 35 minutes to Gatwick for holidays. Know everyone in my local pub and quiet a few in the next pub up. The words I’m looking for is happy and content
    2 points
  50. Skxawng

    Univalve versions

    Yep, cleaned it, replaced the spring and both o rings and lubricated it with good quality silicone grease. Now working like new I had to buy in bulk as individually they're pretty expensive as they're all very unusual sizes and hard to source cheaply. I made a custom opening tool for them too so I don't damage them while opening them. VID_20211006_170214.mp4
    2 points
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