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  1. 21 points
    Hey all, been trying to keep up on this topic, which is quite hard right now with the volume of posts being added each day. I just want to make a note here that there isn't a right or wrong answer this situation is very complicated indeed. Yes it's easy to say we should all stay in and yes we should but there are many factors and even if we disagree should not be attacking others decisions. This evening for example I went out in my car to meet my son for a walk. Should I have under the current announcements? Probably not being he lives in a different house and not another parents house. (care home) BUT he is severely autistic and really doesn't understand any of this current situation. All he knows is he was seeing us twice a week and now not at all! How he communicates his frustration is by beating 10 bells of **** out of himself untill he lands himself in hospital. So as you can see the simple answer is don't go out stay at home protect everyone, myself and my son. But if he doesn't see me he will resort to extreme self harm most likely put his staff in danger and end up in hospital at even higher risk of catching/spreading. We have literally been to hell and back in the last week alone with this decision from legal advice to making a whole best interest decision with the local NHS, care team and councils legal team along with our own worries and doubts for and against this decision. There is no perfect right or wrong answer just a least damaging one. What I am trying to demonstrate is that for every individual it is a very complicated, stressful and worrying time. We can all read the guidelines and take our own decisions. Yes there are those that are still out gathering and having a good old catch up with not a care in the world but most are just trying their best to figure out a way through as sensibly as they can for their own individual situation. Let's be kind to each other and not judge one person's views or decisions over another's. I haven't posted this for sympathy and very rarely share my personal life here but it's currently a good example of the complexity of all this for all individuals. Choose Kindness
  2. 13 points
    steve garwood

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Wish they would just call a full lockdown apart from essential workers. That would put an end to the moral dilemma
  3. 11 points
    Delabrum

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I’ve contacted about 30-40% of my customers via text, phone and social media to explain why I won’t be working for a while. I wasn’t keen on pushing letters through my customers doors as I was worried I could potentially spread it. But I’ve changed my mind. In my village of about 13,000 people, there’s roughly 15/20 window cleaners. I’ve seen at least 3 of them out working. I know the majority of the other lads/businesses aren’t working, but I got a bit worried that my customers would see other window cleaners out working still and ask them to clean their windows (I live right by the sea so windows are always filthy around here!) So yesterday I embarked on a letter campaign that involves posting roughly 500-600 letters to my remaining customers. The response thus far has been unanimous - ‘you’re doing the right thing’. I had one customer contact me last night (I was actually due there yesterday) saying thanks for not coming, her stepdad died of COVID over the weekend. Can you imagine if I’d turned up there yesterday?! Personally, I think showing my customers that I’m putting the health of others/NHS over my profit for a brief period of time is going to do A LOT more for my business/customer loyalty/relationships in the LONG TERM. Long term thinking is crucial for any business. Yes a customer may say they’re happy for us to come. But we’re the polite British, how do we know that behind closed doors they’re not saying ‘what a ******’? I’m not having a pop at those who are still working. I just again want others to think about what is going to be best for our businesses 6,12,18 months down the line.
  4. 10 points
    doug atkinson

    This brings it home

    Many thanks guys. This is one roller coaster ride I did everything to try and protect myself and got it. My wife now thinks she has it so hard days ahead. Much appreciate the support and all those as well going through the hard times. Stay positive
  5. 9 points
    Andy Hill

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I'd suggest that overall government policy hasn't changed. In as much that they want to flatten the curve and create herd immunity. Therefore total lockdown was never desired from the off. But the initial reaction to them openly talking of herd immunity went down very badly - so they simply stopped talking about it (in public). All the confusion that's been created from policy and restrictions I'd (strongly) suggest have been purposely done. The way things are now won't alter much in the coming weeks. And to be fair to the government they're trying to balance everything from saving lives, to limiting the economic damage, to the socioeconomic factors such as civil unrest. Don't fight each other guys. The fights out there. Stick together. Just ask yourselves what value you think you're adding on the forum by justifying working or flogging those who say they are working. If you wanna work then work. If you don't then don't. The circular conversation that keeps appearing on this thread has become very tiresome and it's adding no value for anyone. It's a bun fight....that nobody is winning or will win! Not looking to offend anyone - simply encouraging the dislogue to move on. Let's start discussing ideas how we can work together to help one another. This recession is going to be like nothing any of us have ever experienced. 'Problems are not solved in the framework in which they were created. Are we ready? How will we adapt? How strong is your business model? How good is your customer relationships? Etc, etc. And ask yourself what flaws this has exposed in your business. And how you might address that going forward. What am I doing to get through this and still have a business in the coming months/years? How could that help others? And vice versa. The whole world and the global economy is being reset by this. But Ctrl Alt delete hasn't even been hit yet! But it's time to start the process of building for the future. Peace and love!!
  6. 9 points
    Hi all. My first post and what a time to do it! 5 years a windy, doing it the old fashioned way. Not kicking butt out there but making an honest living enough... or was. Think this post is most probably the most pressing/important one to get rolling unfortunately. Lots of views on the topic and this is just my little two pennies worth. There's no definitive answer to be gained from social networks and bits of press snippets. What the government says has to be followed for a coordinated plan otherwise its chaos, indecision and in-fighting. They have all sorts of organizations, departments and planners formulating there overall plan. 3d modelling of where it might all go and much much more. Their current advice on .Gov reads absolutely we can and should work being that we're not on the prohibited list as far as I've read on there - If you cannot work from home, that we're not showing any symptoms and can follow their guidelines to keep ourselves and others safe as possible while doing our work. I for one, didn't work for the first couple of days after Boris's original speech concerning the lockdown. Like us all had no idea of finacial help at that time but I would of followed through all the same. 'Doing what I'm told/advised'. Thing is I've been watching and reading intensively ever since and his original message of essential/key workers has been dropped altogether. The government website spells it out a lot clearer now and indeed we are allowed to work as are other business's and trades if you go by that websites advice to the public which I am personally, not hearsay and social sites. Principles and morals might be another matter, some can affford, some can't there, but others are being a little more rational to their own plight for now and the very long term. Throughout the many posts on this thread I've not really read too many thorough plans to lessen the chance of contamination in our work. Personally, I work alone, I've set up running water in my van, which means I soap and wash my hands just how the guidelines advise. I do this before I start a job and after too, before eating, drinking all sorts of times through the day. I've hand sanitizer on me for any inbetweens moments. I take cash mainly and pick it up off the floor or wherever with a dog poop bag. Throw that into a large bag in the van and won't touch for a number of days. Use another poop bag for the next house and so on. My customers know I'm coming so, I'm not having to touch many gates, bins or whatever cus I've pre-planned with my customers. If I do touch something obviously frequently used, I'm doing it where they are very unlikely to of been touched recently (say nudge a bin with my leg, swing a gate open from the bottom, then I use my sanitizer anyway. I only work local and don't go to work out of my small town. My van is filled to the brim with diesel so won't be back and forth to the pumps especially with small local mileage. I've done other precautions too, but my virgin post is an essay enough already lol. What I'm really trying to say, is its not immoral or unprincipled to be guided by your government's and their advisors/partners advice here. Even Dr, Hillary said the other day we are low risk workers lol and if you take extreme precaution in some shape or form at work as I do you can plod along making some sort of living even its nowhere near what it was due to all this messing about as I'm doing. This is a long term problem, hence the strategy put into action by the government and by me personally. This strategy also involves people's personal economic futures as well as that of the country which I want to do well but obviously with the least number of tragic health outcomes as is realistically feasible. Absolutely repects folks who down tools for their own principles/beliefs/reasons but I also repect the flip side individuals opinions on here as I feel no one is actually wrong currently. I'll add when the policy given to Jo public changes again I'll be following to the letter as best I understand it and as best I can. If im off work from there on I'll have to deal with that shaky bridge then. Till then or till plod wrongly stops me I'll continue plugging away safely as possible making the best of a very dire situation. Cheers without the beers!
  7. 9 points
    Kurtis

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I agree I’ll bare my finances for people to see. Just to give an example of the kind of situations some people may be In. I have £164.11 in the bank and £29.15 in savings. In the next 7 working days I have £495 private rent, £70 credit card debt and £17 water bill. Plus have to buy food and essentials. Thats just the essentials not including the £38 internet/phone. And £70 insurance to be paid the week after. (Wife’s work has been cancelled) I know some people are going to say I should’ve saved or worked harder or whatever, but not everyone is always in a position where they can save for a rainy day. So personally I’m going to have to work this and next week. Not because I want to. Simply because I have to. I truly do feel sorry for people who are effected by the virus and all the videos of people asking to stay home do upset me. But what else can I do until self employed people are helped out?
  8. 8 points
    Lparker9983

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Absolutely the right decision. We as collective cleaners are no different to any other person on lockdown. We do have the potential to spread it no matter how careful we are. As for Chris choi , he was sat on ITV as a ITV employee being asked questions by ITV , go figure. As far as I'm aware he has NO medical, professional or government ties to spew what folk can and can't do. Leave that to the 5pm daily bulletins from the relevant authorities stood on them podiums. Ultimately people will still go out and work regardless of the potential of spreading this. Those people need to look at the UK as a whole and what people are trying to do rather than looking at themselves as an individual and thinking it's only me, I can't hurt anyone. If everyone thought that we'd all be business as normal. I just don't get how hard it can be to drill a message to everyone. STAY AT HOME, PROTECT THE NHS AND SAVE LIVES .
  9. 8 points
    Part Timer

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I am sure you are but when you say what you said below it isn't helping We will go on lockdown because London was allowed to continue to party and travel on packed trains for too long, not because someone is working within Government guidelines. You and others on here that are preaching to people that are in fairly dire financial situations doesn't help. Instead of posting nasty comments you would be better off writing to your MP or volunteering to help
  10. 8 points
    HWCS

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    This forum has been invaluable since i started as a windy last year, this issue is NEVER going to have the whole forum agreeing but what i will say is that while theres disagreements its mostly people agreeing to disagree, if you wanna see bitchieness and nastiness between windys the just go on the uk window cleaning page on FaceBook, ive removed myself from the group as i just cany ne doimg with it on there, its like a playground
  11. 8 points
    Cghwindowcleaning

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I am sure this will upset a few and this is not aimed at anyone in general or on here.I appreciate that some are new to this or the main income provider for their house or they may have been off ill and generally struggling and I feel for them. But the amount of so called big hitters and braggers, the £300-450 a day bunch that are struggling after 4 days and trying to justify going to a work is a joke. I am full commercial it has hit my business like a train. The amount of uk window cleaners even near me who are reposting videos of Nicola Sturgeon saying they can work are the exact same ones who would cry and be up in arms if a window cleaning licence was introduced down here like they have in Scotland. You can not break the chain of a virus if you don't isolate and keep yourself away from it, it's as simple as that.Until a vaccine is found isolating and minimising contact is the only thing to slow it down.China had a complete total lock down and it took them 3-4 months.We are a very long way from ending this here. The government aren't going to be giving money away for nothing for us to sit at home. Once this is all over the chancellor has already said they want it back so a tax increase will be very likely for the self employed. Take care.
  12. 8 points
    Part Timer

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I think if you go back you actually started shouting at me and heavily criticising someone else first. I'm not on here to argue but I won't be shouted at or sit quietly watching someone have a go at someone else because they disagree with them. I disagree with loads of posts on here but accept the fact that everyone has a right to an opinion.
  13. 8 points
    Jamie1088

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I know it’s an emotional time but get off your high horse mate, you don’t know what precautions and measures I’ve implemented into my business in the last week. No wonder people don’t post on public forums. Keyboard warriors everywhere.
  14. 7 points
    Dave B

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Trying to find loopholes in statements from the GOVERNMENT (the authority we should listen to) saying go to work if you can social distance and can't work from home. I'm choosing to stay home but whatever spin you put on it I'm the one not doing as I'm told by staying home. As for greed and selfishness have you not seen on here that some people have no chance of getting a payment in june or no savings to last until then but need to buy food etc. Get off your soapbox .
  15. 7 points
    Dave B

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    This has been done to death now hasn't it? Any chance of changing the subject a little. Yes some are working some are not but preaching either stance is getting nowhere. Do what you have to do and that's it.
  16. 7 points
    fast_muchly

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    If you are doing a decent job and a nice bloke to talk to and they trust . TRUST ME you will not lose even 1 customer . I find when people have a window cleaner they become a friend and someone they can trust ………..they don't move over to other window cleaners easily everyone you cant contact will guess at why your not coming . DONT WORRY at all , it will all be there for you to go back to at the end of the summer . Yes END OF SUMMER as that is how long this is going to go on for ……..you can write summer off .
  17. 7 points
    Part Timer

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Well if you can think for yourself then you should know that the vast majority of people will survive this. Tragically some will die, including some that don't appear to have any other ailments. I am humble as unlike you I don't believe I am better than anyone else and I also don't believe it is my place to lecture others.
  18. 7 points
    Aqua

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I think there is far too much judging going on in this forum by some people. None of us know other people's positions as to the need for them to work so to say its "morally wrong" for someone to work I really think is too far. Personally I did 3 large isolated jobs yesterday that I pre arranged with, turned up cleaned left and they pay online. Not for one second did I feel worried about getting infected or passing it on. As a contrast tho later on I went to the supermarket and the whole time I felt mildly terrified as people suddenly appeared right next to me and every item I picked up I wondered who had touched it before me. I know you can say getting food is essential but to some still working may be. I've decided that yesterday is my last day as I'm happy I can now get by ok and feel pressures by others opinions. Do work or don't work as long as those that do are very careful and the customers are happy with it no one should be saying its "mostly wrong" in my opinion. Just respect each other guys.
  19. 7 points
    chris clean

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    So here goes....... I've been following the thread like everyone naturally worried about my income and my business. I am hopefuly unless the government throw a curveball one of the 95% that will get the payment in June. I have read all the arguing/exchanges/heated discussions whatever you wnat to call it on here on shall I work shall I not. At the risk of upsetting some for the record I wont mention names but I find it funny that some members that have the bulshy attitude of having to keep working to survive are the same ones that have in previous posts over the years claimed they earn so much every day that surely the government saying even if u sit at home we will give you 80% of your pay could afford to do that! Or maybe all the bull sh$!testers realise at times like this that made up money wont pay the Bill's! Indeed most of us have already learnt full money for a big chunk of march already and can now defer tax due in July to next January. I do feel very sorry for those who have just started or fall outside the eligibility and understand a determination to keep working but please do anything other than work. I say this because I have a neighbour who has family who live in spain who we are apparently 2-3 weeks behind. They have told him how the sport centres in towns have been turned into morgues to cope with the bodies. Warehouses that the Spanish are calling warehouses of death as so many that go into these make shift hospitals dont come out alive. As one of my customers who is an A&E nurse told me last week this country has no idea what's going to hit it by mid june and she said do anything to avoid being out your house unless you must to protect your family. What is coming is truly horrific and she also added those who think it's going to just be the old or people with health problems is kidding themselves. For me there is no point in having a bit more money if I'm dead or a close loved one is. And for the person who said going grocery shopping is more of a risk than window cleaning your probably right but what planet do you live on if you think window cleaning is essential? Grocery shopping when you absolutely have too is but dirty windows ain't . Whether I agree or disagree with you all or have offended any of you sorry. But I hope you and your families stay safe and wish you luck in the coming months. Take care all
  20. 7 points
    Lparker9983

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I saw this. My point is this. Anyone and everyone could manipulate the essential bit to suit there own needs. The more people on the street the longer it will take. Just because Barry the gardener is out as normal shouldn't open the floodgates for everyone else. Nobody knows who's got this and the sooner folk actually listen to the advice of 'stay at home' the sooner we all get back to work. Now the majority are getting paid 80% of our wage to stay at home why do we need to go out unless your going to volunteer to help in the NHS or your going to do a vital essential job in the NHS or logistics. I understand this doesn't help everyone but ring the council,gas ,water etc and they will hold your bills until your back on your feet. Also I am worried if I go out and advertise my van whilst actively working at the minute I risk being singled out as irresponsible and it only takes a few photos on Facebook and your business is getting bad name real quick. Personally until I'm told to go out I'm heeding the warning, stopping insode where at all possible and from the response from my customers from a text I sent on Tues they seem to agree it's the right thing to do. I'll have a business to go back to, I'll earn from the first day of work and in the mean time it will be hard but knowing money is on the way helps in these weird few weeks.
  21. 7 points
    Matt6588

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    How can you not see anyone’s problem ? I’ve been self employed for 8 month . Make £600+ a week . Have a partner who is currently on maternity leave so out of work atm . Bills are just under £2000 a month which are all on me as partner doesn’t work just now . So now I have to live off of £94 a week universal credit ? Yeah don’t know how you can’t see that as a PROBLEM !!!
  22. 7 points
    Neilmnwc

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Morning everyone! I don't know about you all but I've been going to bed with my head buzzing every night since the PM's speech... I think I'd be right by saying we are all morally on the same plane and most aren't going in purely for those reasons. We know we're doing it for the right reasons. I can stay off work for a few weeks at a push, but I don't think I've ever been more worried about my families financial security. I keep thinking, surely the government will help...then silently begging them to quickly. Keep your chins up all
  23. 6 points
    Pjj

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    How’s your buisness going to crumble before your very eyes ?... those customers will be there next week next month and next year , they arnt going anywhere!,,,,, , you are always stating that you have been going 27 years and earn £40-50 per hours but all of a sudden you buisness empire is going to collapse ?... , if you think you should be working and it’s safe to crack on but don’t come up with this drivel
  24. 6 points
    Tormato

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Here lies the problem. A week in politics. Boris Johnson addresses the country. That was too much to take in live, I know lets check the Govt website. Essential workers only. The government websites then edits this out. The confusion begins Michael Gove says the next day essential work only then vanishes for a few days. Jeremy Corbyn, who hasn't vanished yet, gets stuck in Other MP's who also start saying the same, the Mayor of London wades in. Nicola Sturgeon says it's ok for us to go to work and becomes a Saint to many window cleaners. This is a big one but wait...... A day or two later her voice in Parliament Ian Blackford says the complete opposite in PMQs , essential workers only. Boris Johnson wholeheartedly agrees with him! Nicola Sturgeon then does a U turn and also says essential work only and the police can pull you. The police are good to her promise and start pulling window cleaners (and the odd dog walker) but not just in Scotland, all over the UK. Boris Johnson then writes a letter to us and says we can travel to work, if you can safely work I presume? This will change no doubt before the letter lands on our doormat. Reminds me of the old World Cup joke about the national team being back home before the postcards. Add to that Piers Morgan's one man crusade for essential work only, which for someone as divisive as him is gaining massive momentum. It's not illegal to go to the Peak District, but try and get there. Public opinion/outrage can make something legal, seem illegal. Can we? Yes....I think. Should we? Only we ourselves can answer.
  25. 6 points
    Skxawng

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    South Yorkshire Police replied to my message: "Hi Laurie. The police are using the same guidelines as are available to yourself on the gov.uk website. The government are only wanting people to leave their homes if it is absolutely necessary. It is not essential for people to have their windows cleaned. The government guidelines are temporary and have been implemented to keep people safe and ease the pressure on the NHS which will allow severely ill patients to receive the care they need. The more time you spend out of your house, the higher the risk of contracting Covid-19 is to yourself. It also increases the risk of you spreading it to other people (you may already be infected and not know as not everyone displays symptoms). The government have introduced financial support for self-employed people and we suggest that you explore these options instead of continuing to work for the time being." It's a pretty clear stance. I pointed out the parts of GOV website that were confusing like: "it is important for businesses to carry on" and "Work carried out in people’s homes, for example by tradespeople carrying out repairs and maintenance, can continue" But they are still saying that only essential workers should be traveling. At least that's pretty clear, so I'll be using that if, in a future date I get told that I should have been working.
  26. 6 points
    Skxawng

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Actually, the idea is to self isolate to drag it out longer to relieve the stress on the NHS. It would be over a lot faster if everyone ignored the advice but a lot more people would die. I agree with your post but I think people ought to be prepared for the long haul. You could quote the GOV website instead of the sun, as that explicitly says you can work. Which is completely at odds with everything else. I've messaged the South Yorkshire Police FB page to ask them to clarify the contradiction between GOV website advice and reports of Windys being told to go home. If they reply then I'll post it on here.
  27. 6 points
    I’ve just faced timed my 10 year old daughter, who lives with her mother, I haven’t seen her in a week and still another 3 to go as they are all in isolation because her mother has shown symptoms of the virus.Now let me get this straight I can’t stand the bloody women hence why we’re divorced, I suppose most can’t stand their ex’s but I still talk to her and I certainly don’t want her to die ,I’ve just spoke to her for a moment and she looks and sounds absolutely terrible, constantly coughing says she’s got very high temperature, a banging headache, aching all over and even struggling to breathe at times. I am going to struggle financially as I am sure everyone on here is,but anyone on here who is going to peoples houses and cleaning windows needs to have a word with themselves. It’s killing people and making people very,very ill. You can take all the precautions you like, wear gloves, ask them to open gates but this virus finds away. Just bite the bullet for a few weeks. I just wish Boris had been more clearer to save all this confusion and arguments. I’ve texted most of my customers and every single one of them have praised me, some even giving me the money now for future cleans. They know it’s going to hit us hard in the pocket but health and family come first for me and should for everyone else on here .
  28. 6 points
    Dave B

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Screw them. Everyone knows me round here and I couldn't give a toss if someone wants to badmouth me. My work is built on recommendations and personal relationships built up sround here not what an idiot says on social media.
  29. 6 points
    Part Timer

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Well I've just received some "good" news, just been awarded a £6k a year contract that they want us to start asap. This will yield £4k+ a year profit after travel and hotel expenses for 12 days a year of work. Only one slight problem it's in Uxbridge in London Told them the earliest we could start, if safe to do so, was July and they said that's fine.
  30. 6 points
    steve garwood

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    The problem with non essential workers (us, gardeners etc) still grafting, is other non essential workers will see them and think ‘we’ll if they can do it so can I’. Now the first person might be being careful (however they are deluded if they think it’s 100% safe), but the second person,who is influenced by the first,might not be so careful. One little mistake (pushing a gate the postman, milkman has touched), the customer goes out for their exercise, pushes the gate, you do the maths. It doesn’t matter which way your thought process works, it’s better for the greater good to stay at home. Stay safe fellow windies.
  31. 6 points
    TWC

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I text half my customers last night but the mobile network was so slow I had to leave the other half till today. I’ve said it’s very confusing as the steer from the government is not clear. I’m overwhelmed by the replies all agreeing it’s a tough decision but the right thing to do. All of them saying they will see me when I’m back up and running. Not a single grumble. It’s also surprised me as some customers I have very little contact with and are almost strangers to me have been quite gushing with their compliments and loyalty.
  32. 5 points
    TWC

    Any people changed their mind

    You’ve chosen to work. Good for you and I wish you every success in that choice. And to others who have. But this statement is absolute scaremongering. If it’s true of your round and customers I feel very sorry for you. You don’t know anything about other people’s business and customer base. I’ve chosen not to but fully expect to retain the vast majority of my customers. I have had tremendous support and have communicated with all customers. And frankly if they can’t forgive me missing a few cleans because I’ve chosen not to work during a global pandemic then I’m better off without them
  33. 5 points
    mrtaytay

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Certainly not going to wait for the vaccine....I would be out of business if I did that. My own personal target is to be starting in around 5 weeks time, allowing for the remaining 2 weeks of the current lockdown and then 2/3 weeks of a stricter lockdown in which only key workers can work. After this I am hoping that the country will be in a better position. Of course, I may be totally wrong. This has been tough for us windowcleaners. I have torn myself inside out in trying to decide what to do for the best and still question myself now. It's nearly always on my mind. Anyway....time for a pint
  34. 5 points
    Big Al 11

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Im not working.Been off since last monday.Ive a large round of domestic houses with a lot of elderly customers.All pay in cash on day or on my collecting nights.Dont think its safe and i think a lot of my customers would be upset/angry if i turned up.Just dosent seem right when the streets are deserted.
  35. 5 points
    TWC

    Too much comments and confusion off topic

    Unfortunately it’s quite an emotive issue. Being a forum you are going to get a range of views and it’s not the forums job to decide what’s right it’s down to you as the business owner to make that decision. The ongoing discussion I think has grown quite tiresome. Everyone’s business and situation is different so there is no clear cut answer. Some cannot stop for financial reasons or fear that they may lose their business. Others are stopping for perceived moral or perhaps safety fears for their family or customers weather these are founded or not. And there’s a hundred other reasons why people are carrying on or stopping. I do think we need to stop trying to make others feel bad for their choices as we’re not in their situation and just support each other however we can. That’s what this forum has always been based on
  36. 5 points
    Jjamie

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    All depends on your customer base I only do regulars... but loyal customers will not get rid of you even if someone under cuts you! You'll be apart of the furniture as we say
  37. 5 points
    RSD

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do Government document has now been released about going to work, clear as crystal! We can work safely. Read answers to questions 4,5,6
  38. 5 points
    Part Timer

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    The only source of information ithat hasn't changed is the Gov.uk site where it has always stated go to work only if you can't work from home. The only thing they have changed is safe distancing. Now financial assistance has been given, to the majority, the decision to go out should be easier to the majority. Those with no financial assistance have a dilemma that I'm glad I haven't
  39. 5 points
    steve garwood

    This brings it home

    Just found out that Doug at daqua has the virus. Want to get this this thread going so we can all wish him well
  40. 5 points
    Pjj please thank your daughter for the work she is doing and give her these (imagine them beautifully wrapped)
  41. 5 points
    Finished contacting my customers by phone or text today saying that I wouldn't be cleaning for the next couple of weeks. Positive responses from everyone and will be surprised if I lose any business to other WCs. I was really touched by a self employed ironing lady who usually pays by cash. She asked for my bank details as she wants to continue to pay me. I refused. The bad news is we have been cleaning for 11 months, but but up to approx 400 customers with hard graft, so UC for us. stay safe all.
  42. 5 points
    Dave B

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I will happily remove the warning and you are free to have your opinions same as everyone but the insulting iq's etc is not on. Obviously you are passionate about this but then others are allowed their opinions also without abuse for it.. which is the right of everybody.
  43. 5 points
    fast_muchly

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Anyone who thinks this is going to be gone in 3 weeks is kidding themselves , its going to be all summer long .That means no holidays no nothing and sooner people get use to that the better .
  44. 5 points
    ks789

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I admit that thought worried me deeply ( one of customers dies) a lot of mine are frail and elderly and even though I had no contact at all, they would go through all possibilities (who has been there etc) And even though highly unlikely it was to do with me, that wouldnt help my case. So tools down for me. Though I feel real bad for anyone who is stuffed by this, just hope the safety net somehow can keep them going.
  45. 5 points
    fast_muchly

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Im sorry but on this there is no excuse for everyone has an opinion part timer ……….yes they do but go and tell that to the copper that's going to stop you from going down the street for the wrong reason according to you "everyone has a right to an opinion" . The point where everyone has a right to an opinion becomes morally wrong is when people have an opinion that are killing other people either intentionally or unintentionally .I think you will find in situations like this people have to get through to others that what they are doing is morally WRONG . This is when countries go to war etc etc its usually over morals and humanity issues, a bit dramatic I know but the point is the same . And on a personal note I don't shout actually I use caps to underline serious points as I feel some people miss them but I do agree caps is looked at as shouting . And on another point you told me to " PIPEDOWN " and others on here liked your post . Just because you have been around along time on this forum and I have but don't post much ….you get backed up by all your regular mates ………...IT DOESNT MAKE YOU RIGHT OR THE MOD RIGHT ( SORRY SHOUTING AGAIN ) . And whats nice is looking at more recent posts the tide is turning to prove I was morally right on my statements and its nice to know im not on my own as I was beginning to lose all hope .
  46. 5 points
    Don Logan

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    I'm the same mate stacks of work but I don't see window cleaning as essential. I'm convinced by not working I'm doing the right thing. The more people stay in doors the better.
  47. 5 points
    Master Jedi Alejandro

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Ok, I'm waiting to here back from my accountant but 80% of profits from last tax year is what I understand. So the last tax year I was still very much in building stage, keeping my personal outgoing down and putting most back into business, buying equipments etc. Now things have changed but I will only get the 80% (if I get it) on those slim profits which for me works out to not very much at all. Please, for those posting, everyone is in a different situation. We need to stop shouting at one another and try and be considerate. Yes we disagree but fundamentally we are all trying to work towards the right goal. I don't get the impression anyone here is hoping to turn a massive profit over the coming months or even year, rather just survive. So let's stop fighting and try and help each other figure this thing out, start to understand the heads and tails of it.
  48. 5 points
    fast_muchly

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Im sorry but I don't see anyones problem with this now and those that now work should be ashamed of thereselves and take a long hard look at themselves . 80% of your wages will be paid for gods sake for sitting on your **** …………..its not going to have to be paid back . He is giving you an extra 4 weeks to get your tax return in . If you need money right now USE YOU DAMN CREDIT CARD TO GET BY TILL JUNE beg and borrow of relations and then when you get your payout pay it back . He cannot be fairer than he has been . If your struggling to pay your mortgage defer it for 3 months or 6 like there offering. I cant believe anyone now going to work and potentially spreading the infection FOR GODS SAKE PEOPLE GET A GRIP !!
  49. 5 points
    Window master

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Hi, fantastic site, thanks for the information provided. I am in total agreement with NOT working. I have a family so I want to protect them, if I was to touch something whilst out and passed it on I could not live with myself. Also the Gov is saying stay home and for a reason. My friend is working at a huge place in London setting up thousands of beds, he says it’s scarey and upsetting to see what the NHS is expecting. IMO I am putting myself in to financial meltdowns now by not working but I am happy I’ll be safe and keeping my family safe and others. I Don’t want to be that man out walking about when most decent people are at home. Yes we have assholes not staying in and not social distancing that’s a shame. We all stay home we get rid of this virus faster. A few months of loss work compared to getting I’ll or passing it on is worth it. Also not sure if my one seen local FB pages but many cleaners gardeners have people taking pictures and putting online shaming, be care you do not tarnish your name. Irreversible! Stay safe and hope everyone can get the support of the government to get us through. Going to be hard for many of us. I just cleared all my debts and tax. Dine it wrong time as skint now was liking forward to earning and building money up and debt free.
  50. 5 points
    cleaniac

    Are window cleaners still allowed to work during Coronavirus (Covid-19)?

    Very sad.. Coronavirus: Briton, 21, with no pre-existing health conditions dies after contracting COVID-19 https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-briton-21-with-no-existing-health-conditions-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-11963451 At the end of the day, the government has recognised that we are all well and truly shafted for 2020. It doesn't matter how much money or savings you have, the facts are that this will change the world going forward, and everyone is in the same boat; WORLDWIDE. If you haven't got savings, are are worried. Don't worry or panic. There is little point in worrying, it will not change the situation, it wont help you, and all you will do is make it worse for yourself. If you have 1000's of pounds in the bank, it doesn't make you any more likely to survive this than someone who has 0 in the bank, the ones that survive are the ones that keep their mental health good, stay close to family, and concentrate on minimising exposure. As each day the numbers of deaths ramp up, I realise that by staying home is increasing my chances of saying alive; its that simple.
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