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  1. 11 points
    R wcs

    Another reason Why I enjoy my job

    Two reasons why I goto work every morning 1, money 2, customers like this
  2. 10 points
    mupps

    Window cleaning (more than just window cleaning).

    At the ripe old ge of 59 (60 this year) I have been runing my window cleaning business for around 7 years. I have a good customer base and all of my customers are great to have as regular cleans. Over the years I have been in many managerial rolls - sales manager - product trainer - team leader - hire shop manager - wedding photgrapher, and I also had a marketing company selling corporate clothing/business stationary. Window cleaning came along as a part time few hours a week while I was trying to make my mind up what I really wanted to do as a living later in life. After running the window cleaning business for the past 7 years I have never turned back! The customer base grew slowly at first but then created it's own momentum enabling me to make a good living. I have always been a believer in giving a good service in whatever business I'm involved with or whoever you work for. I have found that over time with this business window cleaning is more than just cleaning peoples windows. You build up over time a good rapport/relationship with the customers and give them a service that they look forward to everytime you turn up on a regular basis. Customers always love a chat and are always pleased and grateful for the service provided. It is one of the services in their lives that isn't something that they have to have - unlike like running costs of their homes utility bills/food etc. It is a luxury that they are paying for and something that they can see what they are getting for their money. I am really happy and proud to have a lovely customer base, and really enjoy getting up in the morning for work knowing that it will be another day dealing with people that appreciate the service that I can give. Window cleaning is an important service for a lot of people out there and to the ones that take pride of their homes, we are a great add on!!
  3. 6 points
    Dave B

    Bank Holiday (Good Friday) day off?

    Same here Bbq is on 15 of us here and having another one tomorrow
  4. 6 points
    THL4KEL

    Suns out and so are the chancers

    I had one the other day virtually brand new 4 bed executive detached property. She had been paying £7 and the now hes disappeared. I quoted her what I charge the same house directly across the road. She nearly had heart failure.. She said can you include the double garage door, its surround and the rear garage no. I said no house windows only.... I wont be working for her. I see this a lot on this particular new build estate, all been paying extremely low rates... No money in it for the window cleaner and that's why he has gone.. Either got a job or hes learned to price correctly to make an income...
  5. 5 points
    Dave B

    Bank Holiday (Good Friday) day off?

    Todays effort The steak was mine @Tuffers
  6. 5 points
    Part Timer

    Career change. Is it to late

    I'm 55, set the business up 8 years ago for my son. Had a working life in the Aluminium scrap industry, still dabble in it. If you have savings that, after set up costs, will last you a year, then go for it. If you haven't then do as @Pjjsaid, build it doing part time work. If I'd known the life style and earning potential 8 years ago I would've done it for me not my son.
  7. 5 points
    Part Timer

    Softwash Course city & guilds

    I've spent more on a night out and learnt many a thing, nothing you could certificate though. No one is doubting you've learnt, and that you think it was money well spent. What I, and a few others, question is the legitimacy of the certificate.
  8. 5 points
    ks789

    Another reason Why I enjoy my job

    Too true. Got some lovely customers who help make the day worthwhile. Also, for me, as probably for most is the independance, and the fact you can be your own boss. Ive struggled with a lot of employee jobs ive had, same as i always struggled at school, being a rebel and not taking too well to discipline. It can carry on after school, in work. Even when you're older, 40s or 50s and you think it wont happen to you, you can have some smart arsed **** boosting their own ego by telling you what to do, when to do it, how to do it etc. Dont get me wrong, some higher uppers were great, and did it the right/fair way, but many out there are sad and need to make themself feel better by kidding themself that they are superior and have power over you. Its a great feeling when theres no one over you, Power to the people!
  9. 5 points
    ks789

    Suns out and so are the chancers

    Ha ha she (well you'd hope it was a she) sounds desperate, kisses as well. But ive heard that before 'you'd get loads of customers here' and nothing, so doesnt always happen like they think.
  10. 4 points
    BigFoot

    Pricing a job what's the easiest way???

    Don’t listen to your wife! You are not being greedy you are running a business, don’t cut your own throat to appease the inner doubt. £12.50 job all day long
  11. 4 points
    Pjj

    Solar panel cleaning - risk of shock?

    We did solar Steve’s course years ago , I did learn a bit but I feel his attitude of if you don’t attend my course you will all die was ott , we have cleaned many many thousands of panels and non of us have ever received so much as a tingle, however Ime not saying you cannot get a shock solar Steve kept saying that one cleaner nearly died by being g electrocuted but when I pushed him he would never give a name , at the time if you googled it nothing came up world wide , I think he was scaremongering and trying to dissuade ones from cleaning them to gain more work for himself , he has single-handedly ruined the market he offered us 16 pence a panel , I told him exactly what he could do with his panels , I have taken the decision not to do any more large solar farms as it’s not cost effective we earn far more doing domestic/commercial window cleaning , the most we do now is ones on houses I have a minimum charge of £60 for the first 16 panels then £3 per panel after that , removing licken from panels can be hard work evan with hot water , you must not use chemicals on the panels according to the manufacturers we dealt with , if you want tk clean them then just have a good look before you start for any damage , my guys hate doing them and so do I , there are some people on the other forum recone they earn good money doing them but you need to be able to clean at least 800 panels per day per man best I ever did was 1200 and it was still no where near what I could earn on Windows and was boring repetative work and used tones of water , my advice for what it’s worth would be focus on building a decent window round
  12. 4 points
    ks789

    Canvassing - how do you guys find it

    Theres no such thing as peoples 'areas'. Its a free market economy. There is a lot of competition out there, its true, but yeh, just pick up custom where you can, and like you say, if they already have a cleaner, fair enough, your not poaching. However, if they are rubbish and get dumped down the line, the customer is entitled to pick who they choose to replace them. maybe he was the cleaner himself, or friends/relative of him. Just drop your flyers through the doors, people move in and out etc, they wont have everyone on their books. cast your net wide mate, hook em up.
  13. 4 points
    steve garwood

    St. George day!!!!!!!!

    Happy st. George’s day guys! 🍺
  14. 4 points
    davewindowcleaner

    Career change. Is it to late

    Never too late mate I know a old guy who got bored being in retirement so he became a window cleaner in his late 60s. I don't think he is married and found in retirement very lonely. He started cleaning his friends neighbors / windows and his little rounds just grew and grew by word of mouth. He doesn't do wfp.
  15. 4 points
    Davy G

    Career change. Is it to late

    No mate. You're just the right age to start I'd say. You will have gotten well used to getting up in the morning and putting in a committed day's work. You'll know how to handle money and how to meet bills. I'm 63, been doing wfp for 5 years, having done several different types of work in the past. I started out working on my own, with my wife managing. The last 2.5 years working with my wife and son as equal one third partners , wife still managing and keeping the books. This works very well for us.
  16. 4 points
    Pjj

    Career change. Is it to late

    I have a motor trade background, and been window cleaning now 20 years , I have no idear how much competition there is where you live , but if you are prepared to work hard I don’t see why in time you cannot be successful, you do need to be motivated to be your own boss and get customers . Is it an option to go part time with your currant job and try doing one or two days a week and build on that with the window cleaning ??? If you know anyone in your area maybe you could go out with them for a day or two just to learn a bit . I was older than you when I started window cleaning so you arnt too old 😂😂😂. Have a read on hear with regards to start up use the search function , there is a lot of very sound advice and some very experienced people on here that will give you good advice , just ask . If you have no knowledge at all with window cleaning then try and learn by going with someone, I know some on hear will disagree and say why should they help someone for free , I just wish when I started that I had known of forums like this it would have saved me a small fortune and saved me from making some of the basic mistakes I made . You can earn a decent living doing this but don’t give up your main source of income without having any customers or kit or experience as Ime guessing you will have bills to pay and it takes time to set up a round and earn a reasonable amount , don’t take that as a negative but it’s an important point to remember , a lot start up this time of the year but don’t last long , to succeed you will have to be reliable, honest, sell yourself well , do a good job , and work hard but if you are motivated enough and prepared to give it a go Ime sure you can make a go of it
  17. 4 points
    Incheck

    Gutter vac update

    Great news guys, just got a decent upgrade to my skyvac atom that i’ve been waiting to get for sometime. Local windy was selling a twin motor gutter sucker, 3000 watt. Good price too, pretty nifty too, used it on my garage gutters this morning. Sometimes waiting for the right opportunity really does pay off!
  18. 4 points
    Part Timer

    Suns out and so are the chancers

    Mine's in and tax calculated, if you keep well on top of your paperwork then you'll be running a tighter ship and know where you stand and can therefore plan your finances. Most new companies fail because of cash flow, the majority of these is because they have no idea of where they stand.
  19. 4 points
    Incheck

    Suns out and so are the chancers

    I think we’ve all learned the hard way at some point or other. Reality kicked in for us at 6 months when we were basically on the verge of going bust. Drastically raised prices, by 50% for new customers, immediately. then made another mistake by not raising prices for 3 years. They have gone up the last two Aprils and will be doing so for all consecutive aprils. I dont want to be in that position again. most newbies are gone after 18 months
  20. 4 points
    Part Timer

    Softwash Course city & guilds

    I agree with a lot of the sentiment, where I would disagree is if @scottish cleaning servicewere to apply to a large company, that has a very inquisitive H&S Dept, that want to see and check all qualifications, to do some work for them and supplies, possibly, a certificate that might be worthless, or even fraudulent, then he has been seriously let down. Yes he has learnt something, and yes he knows a lot more than he did before, but I believe he wouldn't have paid the price he did if it didn't have the C&G certification with it.
  21. 4 points
    kevinc250

    Softwash Course city & guilds

    personally I see all this as, @scottish cleaning service did you enjoy the course? did you find it informative? and did you feel that it was worth the cost and got value for money? (disregarding all this cg thing) if you can answer yes to all three of those then for you it was money well spent on your behalf, and hats off to you, I have done the same course with mick a few years ago (not a cg one) and previous courses and, as with all courses you take from them what you want and then progress from there. the point I am trying to make is training, in whichever form is better than none at all and don't take to heart all the negative comments you are now more aware of surfactant based biocides than you were before-good on you✊
  22. 4 points
    Part Timer

    Public liability IOnsurance

    This isn't aimed at you as we've never dealt, I was "insured" for the first 5 years without realising I wasn't covered for windows being worked on. I asked to be insured to clean windows and was sold a policy that meant I was basically insured for everything bar window cleaning. Now I know you said you should read your policy but as my request was very basic, insurance to clean windows, I didn't check small print. The get out clause, "you should always read the policy" is a cop out and in my opinion any insurance company that sells a policy that doesn't insure the glass you're working on, should be charged with miss selling a financial product. Can you imagine selling a carpet cleaner insurance that didn't cover them for cleaning the carpet they were working on.
  23. 4 points
    jack b

    Window Cleaning in Winter

    Hi Liam, Not sure where you are hearing that comment but they all want it done throughout the year down here. Windows get dirtier in the winter with all the muck flying about. It's an all year round job, make no mistake my friend. Seasonal windies are often those looking for a bit of holiday cash but the serious window cleaner treats it as his sole income and works all year round
  24. 3 points
    Davy G

    Pricing a job what's the easiest way???

    In a nutshell, as was well said by BigFoot . Your wife does need to understand you're running a business. My price would be absolutely minimum of £12.50. Probably a couple of quid more.
  25. 3 points
    Cookie

    Canvassing - how do you guys find it

    Just remember when canvassing that for every "No" you receive, you are one "No" closer to a "Yes". Just stick at it.... you'll get there eventually.
  26. 3 points
    Pjj

    Canvassing - how do you guys find it

    Thats very poor pricing only between £7-8 per job try and have a minimum charge say £10 , I think you are way to cheap and that’s why you are getting every job you quote , I know it’s hard when starting out but don’t go in to cheap or you will get to the point of not wanting to do the under priced work
  27. 3 points
    HWCS

    Canvassing - how do you guys find it

    My wifes leafleted the whole town now and ive picked up 50ish people from in a month by just facebook group, and leaflets, im working on a 6week rota, with a cpl on 4wk and a cpl on 8wk. Did 4 quotes tonight and got all 4 jobs, 2 already have a window cleaner but they dont like wfp cleans and their guy refuses to do them trad, so i dont feel bad taking his work. Im gonna start canvassing the whole town next week hopefully ill have a full 5day 7hr round in no time atall. Just gonna be totally upfront and honest, if they have a cleaner ill bid them good day and leave them a business card just incase 😉 240 customers is my goal, grossing me £1700/2000 a month.
  28. 3 points
    Green Pro Clean Ltd

    St. George day!!!!!!!!

    Happy St. Georges Day Happy Shakespears Birthday. And above all.... happy anniversary to my wife whom on this day five years ago became a British Citizen.
  29. 3 points
    Master Jedi Alejandro

    Bank Holiday (Good Friday) day off?

    Went for a drive with the family up round the Trossachs and a steam boat tour along Loch Katrine. Then over to Callander for some cracking fish and chips. Getting into Callander we drove past two window cleaners working on a B&B. They weren't half scrubbing those windows, must have been 30 seconds a pane at least! Felt sorry for them, if they bettered their technique perhaps they wouldn't have to work a bank holiday! 😂
  30. 3 points
    BigFoot

    Career change. Is it to late

    Not too late. Work hard and the rewards are there.
  31. 3 points
    Cookie

    Window cleaning (more than just window cleaning).

    Absolutely agree with the sentiment of this post. Without a doubt the best part of the job is having a banter with customers (since window cleaning in itself is pretty boring). Also when I meet some of the lonely, housebound, elderly customers with various health problems etc... It actually puts you own problems into perspective. It's quite humbling sometimes to think that the window cleaner arriving to clean their windows is actually the highlight of their day.
  32. 3 points
    Incheck

    Pricing a job what's the easiest way???

    I wouldn’t panic wee man. It’s easy to get carried away with trying to earn an hourly rate. £20 an hour can be as worthy as £40 an hour if you know how to stretch money and use it wisely. Obviously if you’ve got lots of kids, two dogs, two vehicles and 4 bedroom house, have a taste for expensive clothes ,or smoke, eat take aways & go out for weekend meals/go on holidays abroad regularly, then your living costs are going to be astronomical. If we assume that most people are aiming for £40 an hour targets, that would mean, if achieved, 8am-5pm would be £360 per day Over a 5 day week thats £1800 per month £7200 over an 11 month year £79200 i’m sure the whole country would be window cleaning If that was the reality 😊
  33. 3 points
    Incheck

    Pricing a job what's the easiest way???

    It’s nothing to argue with as a lone operator. a lot of guys on here aim for £40 we are a pair and base at £40 per hour. Sometimes we exceed 50 an hour especially if its a big ad on job. Over a 9 hour day we should” be £360 per day working as a pair. But this is very rarely the case as we pile through work so fast and need so much of it. Almost never hit our targets. Say my brother is ill, i’ve done over £250 on my own doing windows a few times but it was bloomin hard graft i’m not gonna lie. What i have found is that when work was priced based on £30 an hour we wern’t reaching that rate. Works now based at £40 phr and sometimes we’re over, sometimes we’re under. we do hit a lot of roadworks and bumper to bumper traffic as work is not compact and we are based in the middle of a city, so this never helps. My aim is basically, just earn, as much as poss. Facing a lot of competition though not gonna lie this aprils been a tad quieter than previous years.
  34. 3 points
    Incheck

    Suns out and so are the chancers

    It brings some “officialness” to it all. in the event of non payment...if you file a small claim against e.g. first name only...it’s not a good start. It’s also good for tracking payments. If they forget to put their address as a reference when paying (as they often do) and you’ve got 6 people with the same name, you know which one it’s coming from. Also if they’ve changed telephone number or address and then contact you, you can have some incline as to whether you’ve worked for them before or not. i find that the more information you have at the start the more time it saves later on down the line.
  35. 3 points
    davewindowcleaner

    Bank Holiday (Good Friday) day off?

    I will be working on monday morning doing the oap Windows. The kids are already driving me mad and I can't wait to get back to work.
  36. 3 points
    ks789

    Bank hol power drinking!

    Forgetting it all for a while now, switch off pc and time for the odd keg or two, catcha all laters chaps 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺, and more.😄
  37. 3 points
    Tuffers

    Bank Holiday (Good Friday) day off?

    Just finished. Took 3 hours. I remember the the first clean, it hasn’t been cleaned in 12 years and it took me 6 hours 🙄
  38. 3 points
    Tuffers

    Bank Holiday (Good Friday) day off?

    I was going to do a full day on residentials then changed my mind. I’m currently cleaning a leisure centre. I’ll be done in an hours time. Off till Tuesday then 🍺
  39. 3 points
    P4dstar

    Bank Holiday (Good Friday) day off?

    Full day today, most of the day Monday. Saturday & Sunday off is enough for me, I go to work for some peace during the half term 😂 Wouldn't have done Monday but the customers who are due are all friendly people who I won't be in the way of.
  40. 3 points
    Iron Giant

    Suns out and so are the chancers

    The taxman doesn't want his money upfront, my tax year is the standardised tax year April to April my accounts go straight into my accountant on the 6th or as near as and within a week I know what I will be paying the coming January and then the July, based on what your profit is you should have some idea what your tax liability is going to be, 8 months ago I knew I was potentially going to have a big tax bill so I had a chat with my accountant and started saving quite a bit more money each month to get me ahead for this year and next, it's all about planning ahead
  41. 3 points
    Dave B

    Back pack trolley - water shortage hack

    Backpack only ever on full for me with 4 jets in my brush and can still do 2 x 3 bed semis with 1 fill if maintenance cleans Just takes experience to get the speed
  42. 3 points
    Pjj

    Window Cleaning in Winter

    Totaly agree none of my customers complain about working in rain as I point out when quoting work we work in all weather all year round , if they hesitate I suggest they find someone else , any who say not today get instant dump unless there is a genuine reason , like building work going on etc
  43. 3 points
    Davy G

    Another reason Why I enjoy my job

    I can identify with this. I've not had an easy ride either. I've always been very individual in my thoughts and interests, and I found some work colleagues would be jealous for no good reason, especially as I had no interest in football, getting pickled, or Eastenders. My interests were sea angling and kayaking. I worked for many years on pipelines and water mains. Always tried to help people up when I could. But for instance when I put down a deposit for a starter home as a young man in 1985 some of my peers would hardly talk to me. "Who does he think he is, buying a house on a labourer's wage" was what they were saying behind my back. I only found that out ten years after when I bumped into one of the guys who had been a lorry driver with our company and he told me. I'd always got on well with him and we were delighted to meet again after so many years. He said though, that a lot of them shortly after decided that if I could do it on a labourer's wage they should also be able to do it on driver's, machine operator's, and gang leader's pay and most of them did. I didn't know for ten years as I'd left for another company. To be honest I found that there was no one better to hold a working class man back than his fellow working class colleagues. I actually found most of the bosses to be fair minded once they got to trust me. I always spoke to them with respect for them and for me. Oh! And yes working for myself is great. Power to the people, is right. 👍🙂
  44. 3 points
    Cookie

    Suns out and so are the chancers

    He won't last long. Give it six months & he'll realise he's earning less than the minimum wage....
  45. 3 points
    Pjj

    Softwash Course city & guilds

    Ime a qualified first aid instructor and beacause that comes under the education department you now have to have a teaching qualification, the minimum they will accept is a “ petals course “ , I don’t know if it’s the same for all courses . With regards to training most of us train people , especially those that work for us , it’s as far as I know legal to set yourself up and run a training course and Evan issue your own certificate of competence but it’s not worth the paper it’s written on as it’s not approved or recognised by any training agency , providing the person doing the training is doing it correctly and safely and has practically been doing the job then they should know what they are doing and be able to train people how to do it . When I bought my first wfp system the company I bought it off offered a days training as part of the deal , it was ok but after 18 years using wfp I now realise how poor the training was I could now do a far better job as I have 18 years experience doing it , but don’t have any qualifications for cleaning people’s windows , I have had several from this forum come out with us to learn how to use wfp, gutter vaccing, etc , I don’t charge them just show them how to use certain bits of kit , I view this as helping fellow window cleaners , from my experience , but I cannot issue them with any certificates.
  46. 3 points
    Iron Giant

    Softwash Course city & guilds

    The last word honest 😁 I don't want this to appear as having a go @scottish cleaning service and yes he may feel he has got a lot from the course and it was worth the money, but I would like to think that as much as we members help each other we will also look out for each other and in part this what this post is about or has become on the whole from beginning to end us, lads, watching out for each other.
  47. 3 points
    Part Timer

    Public liability IOnsurance

    Yes, if you're not worried about the things you said you should get £1m cover for around £70, 2-3 hours work for a years peace of mind. That would be my next phone call if I were you.
  48. 3 points
    THL4KEL

    Softwash Course city & guilds

    From past experience I would not expect a certificate to be issued on the day of a training course. The trainer/assessor would have to send the coursework/test paper back to C&G and then a couple of weeks later the certificates would be mailed back to the test centre who would then mail the certificates out to learners/attendees.
  49. 3 points
    Iron Giant

    Softwash Course city & guilds

    This is for everyone to take notice of as a moderator of this forum I want everyone to be aware that this course isn't what it seems and I have been informed this course is NOT CITY & GUILDS ASSURED, ENDORSED AT ALL
  50. 2 points
    doug atkinson

    Making pure water on the fly?

    It really depends if you want it for 1 operator or 2 operators. Work out what flow you want at the end then you can work out what R/O system your require. I made this for a company wanting to clean Yacht's and works well for them. It's a 4021 with pre-filter The IPC eagle I have seen one of the first ones sold in the UK and it is still going. They have changed the design as the booster was a honda petrol engine. The person who has it runs two poles no problem. It's a very good design. With your PSI that is a very good start as in the UK some can be as low as 20 psi which is a huge problem in performance.
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