3 predictions for the future of window cleaning...

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  1. TolishAPurd

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    1) Rounds are going to be worth big bucks. With so many people wanting to enter the trade and go WFP, I think many are going to be forced to buy existing rounds out of necessity in this saturated market. Supply and demand will push the price up big time, IMO.

    2) The prices will get pushed down by new WFP users charging silly prices. WFP has given people the chance to make good money in the time spent, so IMO new users will come in and undercut in a bid for survival whilst they try and build their rounds up, safe in the knowledge that they will still be on a reasonable wage.

    3) Window cleaning will get rocked by something like EasyWindows, or AldiGlassCleaned, or JustaLidlGlassCleaned. It might be Poles, Romanians etc. or it might just be big business, but I reckon there is room for something to take window cleaning by storm. Picture the huge truck pulling up with the 10,000 gallon tank on board and poles and hoses everywhere, while they do every house on the street for 30p per window. Prices so cheap it would be stupid to not have a window cleaner.

    What do you reckon? Any of your own?
     
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  2. Diwrnach

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    Don't like WFP Tolish? :p
     
  3. MrBump

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    1. Doesn't affect me, but would be good I guess.

    2. Sadly quite likely, but hopefully not... Although hasn't it always been the case anyway? I hear on here all the time, one guy charges £2 per house and another £20 - but its usually the trad guy who's cheapest I thought.

    3. Can't see this happening. With window cleaning comes an element of trust needed, custies want to know whos trampling all over their property and having access to seeing inside etc, even with wfp this isn't entirely lost. You won't get that with big business like that of car wash centre with 10 guys on one car type cleaning. Maybe the odd numpty might like that type of budget service, but I reckon the majority of the kind of people that actually want their windows cleaned are the type who want to know the guy doing it, whether for trust reasons or just because they like supporting a local guy/business or maybe with older folk its how its always been done.
    Big business would be easier to sell as a one-off, but would quickly get a bad name for one reason or another imo and the average windie will prevail.
    Not everything is down to price, many would rather support a local.business at a tenner rather than support big business with a fiver. Especially with a service. Let's hope it doesn't happen, it would be carnage if it did!
     
  4. TolishAPurd

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    No mate, on the contrary, I think its great in the right hands. Its nothing to do with WFP other then the fact that the future is all moving towards it so I think it will have the most influence over the course the industry takes- even all the newbies are buying the gear before they have rounds. I'm just looking at it as the game changer it is. Like how every industry from the dawn of time has changed and evolved and the effects good/bad that it has left behind. In ten years time I wonder if we will look back on old threads and sigh about how much WFPers used to be able to earn before RyanSquirt (TM) took over the streets.

    Just one of those food for thought threads.
     
  5. TolishAPurd

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    1) But it will effect you one day mate- it'll be your retirement fund that pays for your whores n viagra :thumbsup: ....maybe thats just my plans.

    2) You're right about the trad prices. Its why I think it may happen to WFP. Things have a habit of going full circle.

    3) My thinking is that it might be so cheap that it'll be like putting your bins out. People could be so used to the window cleaner coming and cleaning on a certain day that paying anything else would just be dumb. Reminds me of supermarkets overtaking the corner shops. As much as I get on with Apu, I much prefer going into the faceless supermarket and getting nice fresh items instead of the dusty cans and milk thats about to expire. Not saying the service we offer is naff but imagine if it was done on a huge scale with beautiful big trucks that did hot washing as standard and had all the staff in nice uniforms etc. We could be made to look like a tired corner shop of sorts.
     
  6. MrBump

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    That's true, it could happen I guess and I certainly prefer the bigger selection and better price of supermarkets too. But we are a service so hopefully it's slightly different. You can fly easy jet and many do, but many don't and then there's business class, private jets etc. Cheap coffe or starbucks etc or local cafe etc. And which supermarket, lidl, tescos, waitrose, ocado etc. Custies like choice. The only benefit I can see is if the whole street does sign up cos its cheap, at least they are on the windie bangwagon so if the big business ever stalls there are more potential custies out there.

    You can't run a business with lots of labour, good equipment, fancy vans etc for cheap money forever, it will crash. If there was a big investor they could do that though to get everyone on board and drive out the small businesses (or get them to be employees) and then drive the prices back up before the business goes under.

    It won't affect me though as when I get my 22's I'll have a fancy van, uniform is on its way and I will tell all my custies that hot water can crack glass and damage seals in the winter :D Don't be the tired old cornershop, be the organic local friendly upmarket free range market shop :thumbsup:
     
  7. TolishAPurd

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    Exactly what I was thinking;we could end up being thetrendy shop all the students and hippies got to with our couscous, and feta cheese at highly inflated prices. Being a tradder I reckon I could hire myself out for nostalgia parties, or maybe do cleaning work for museums to keep it authentic.
     
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  8. peter rogers

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    there is a romanian crew going round south belfast with a mini bus van and bout 10 ladders on a trailer i guess they doin it cheap

    wont be long to they catch on to efp and then offer gardening etc indoor cleaning also the women do taht
     
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  9. boarcity

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    #9 boarcity, Aug 25, 2015
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    i dont think the turk/lithu wogs will get a toehold in window cleaning. i say that cos in the 8 yrs iv been a windie iv seen at least 3 of them set up and come and go-one had a 740 volvo estate, 4 up in it, all scowling faces, pound to a pinch theres a machete under the seats

    only the other week i was sitting in my van perusing the diary waiting for my workers to arrive ,suddenly approached by a Pole ,tap tap on window ,all smiles,i thought he wanted a light but oh no -hes wanting to canvass for me-i was polite,gave him a biz card and told him to call me up later ,

    he never did call and now when i see him he gives me the death stare ,glazed eyes- is he another doper on jimson weed at 8 a.m.? , its possible ,one things for sure his eyes say trouble - see you simply cant help em!

    Back in 2011 i even employed one too as a windie for 6 months , rogue almost dragged me under - i know its a generalization but theyre a slimy mob- this doesnt sit well with brit customers who are "cancel happy" at the best of times


    the trust just isnt there,the different culture and window clean dont mix well. oil and water
     
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  10. Green Pro Clean Ltd

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    For years Tolish I have been an advocate of the 'smart van, right tools uniforms and smiles' but I don't see it happening on a scale that you speak of. Bumpy is right, it is a trust game, home in Jersey there was a Portuguese crew, large company doing almost all the commercial and at least several hundred domestic per month.

    Domestic customers did not like them, just used them as that was the only option in the area, only reason domestics did not want them was 'only one of them could speak English' and trying to find him was a nightmare.

    When we started touting their customers were biting our hands off just cause they understood us.

    I think 2, 3, 4, vans with 2 operators in each, uniformed so the custys always know who but never a return to the prices you talk of.

    As for worth big bucks, it's getting there, I just sold a days work £300 for £1600 cause it's too far frm my base camp these days. Depends on quality of round being sold though.
     
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