I need some viro-sol or Ubik and I know from experience how good vitro is and take everyone's word that Ubik is better. Thing is I don't buy it in bulk but might think about that another day and the postage on 5 litres is extortionate so I wonder if there is something I can buy locally that could be on a par with viro-sol. I know screwfix do a no nonsense degreaser cleaner for about 7 quid for 5 litres, has anyone tried that or do you have any recomendations that I can maybe buy locally. I've tried stardrops and it really doesn't cut the mustard (or staining). Any thoughts as it may help others.