Can A Brush Be Too Light

Discussion in 'Water Fed Pole Cleaning' started by bluemonkey, May 20, 2013.

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  1. bluemonkey

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    can a brush be too light, as i got some light brushes but i feel they dont clean as well as some of my heavy ones, does any one else find this
     
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    How do you think they make the brush lighter?

    Less stock, less bristles, less cleaning power.

    I still use a extreme for 99% of my work
     
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    i got an extreme, just sometimes it feels a bit too less
     
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    Well today I took off the extreme mixed and put on a extreme soft. Seemed to clean better. Just a bit slower.

    Alex has for some new brushes out this year. So can't wait for them.
     
  5. Richard

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    [SIZE=medium]At the expense of losing cleaning bristles bluemonkey, yes; 300g brush or a 200g brush 100g difference in weight is nothing, since a window cleaner can easily apply 20 x that difference of 100g in weight (2kg easy work) through pressure when cleaning with a great brush, and 60 x (6kg hard work) when cleaning with the worse type of brush. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]Some of the worse and most common problems brushes have that are used for window cleaning are - not enough bristles, no easy spread of the bristles on the glass, a poor spread on the glass with lots of gaps between the bristles and an oversized brush stock. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]You are probably using brushes with 1 or more of these common failings. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]Richard[/SIZE]
     
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    Just get your hot system you won't care then as the lighter the better, let the water and brushes do all the work.
     
  8. Richard

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    [SIZE=medium]Extreme brushes will clean just as well as any other brush on the [/SIZE]market, they just take a lot longer to do it, if you stick with Gardiner’s brushes use the superlight avoid the extreme brushes unless you don’t mind losing a lot of time, very slow brush to use, very small amount of bristles in technically a very large stock for that amount of bristles. Personally I would lose 1-2 hours per day and easily a full days working time over a week.

    [SIZE=medium]As for poles, stiffer more rigid pole bluemonkey, the sooner you can push out any flex the pole has, then you have immediate and more control over the brush, easier and faster to clean. All applied pressure then goes directly through the brush head, so any scrubbing you also need to do is much more effective. [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]Go for the most rigid carbon fibre pole; ignore any slight weight difference between poles.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]Richard [/SIZE]
     
  9. bluemonkey

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    what would you recommend richard

    also what is your view on dual trim
     
  10. Alex Gardiner

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    I suppose the comments posted above about the Xtreme brushes would have to be classed as a subjective matter of personal opinion not statistically tested fact and based on user working method and personal preference.

    I work with all different types of brushes, both within the Gardiner range and those made by other firms.

    In our work van which brushes do I and my sub-contractors end up going back to each time after testing other brushes? The Xtreme Medium Mixed. Why would we do this if it slowed us down? We get through a lot of work when out for the day and our one aim is to get this work down as efficiently as possible without wasting time. We find that the Xtreme brush (in our personal opinion and subjective findings) is the fastest brush to use and allows us to work and clean noticeably faster than other brushes (including the standard Super-Lite brushes).

    So can a brush be too light? Not really as long as the brush type, bristle type, stock shape, cleaning ability & brush speed suit your cleaning method and work type.

    This is why we have been working hard to reduce the weight of the Xtreme range even further. We have a new Xtreme II brush which is about to come into stock and this features 35% less weight (105g) , but with improved cleaning ability. In testing that we have been carrying out over the last 3 or 4 months with these brushes they have easily become our new favourite brushes.

    However having said all of the above, defending lighter brushes, brush preference has always been a very subjective and personal thing. I have always noticed that a brush that one person loves another person just cannot get on with. The best advice I can give you is to try out lots of different brush types and brands. I personally tried about 15 different brushes out as a WFP window cleaner before I began supplying - this was purely for my own personal use and trying to work out what I really liked. The brush you end up with will need to suit not only your weight preference, but also your cleaning taste and the way you work.

    Of course when you switch to hot water use the whole game changes and so do your brush requirements!
     
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