Alright guys and gals, Back from up North duck. I know theres many threads on this and have read a load but just wanted some clarification. When doing a first clean I want all the frames and sills looking pretty good as the last thing I want is a bad rep from day one plus I want the job to look good, and I would price up to reflect this, is that normal on a first clean? Now I have been advised that I can get a spray bottle (or one of those weed killer bottle things where you pump it up) stick some TFR in it squirt it at the windows and frames from the ground and then scrub away, if they was pretty minging. Would that be any good? it can't be that easy. And also what about black marks/spots on the frames and sills? surely they would need a good scrub with this virosol or ubix I keep reading about and would that mean getting the ladder out or could you squirt it up there and if it hits the glass will it be ok? I just wanna get out there now but don't wanna go and do a **** job and want to have the right stuff. 1 week of training from tomorrow on family and mates houses then i'm gonna bash peoples doors in. I don't even have a bloody ladder. Advice on here has been top notch. I just need someone to say you need a bottle of this and do this with it and a bottle of this and do that with it. Have to say I enjoyed being out working in Grimsby even though it wasn't long. Kinda enjoyed the trad work as well got a nice rhythm to it. I could get addicted to that as i'm a bit strange. So many hurdles to go feeling like colin jackson today. Guybrush.