Cleaning these walls, how much and best way?

[slippy]

How much would you quote for the walls on these flats?  Also, is a pressure washer the best way to clean them?  I did find on a similar wall the paint came off if the pressure washer was too close,but cleaned from a distance 

 

[Pjj]

Softwashing easiest way 

 

[Tuffers]

Toothbrush with Colgate on it will get them walls nice and white in no time ?

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

A weak SH solution.  Apply first coat.  Stiff brush to agitate. Rinse and repeat. 

Many seem to think it's as simple as spraying hypo and leaving it but the scrubbing is the real key. You'd get those clean with soapy water and a stiff brush if you really wanted to. 

As for price.  Half day £280

 

[slippy]

A weak SH solution.  Apply first coat.  Stiff brush to agitate. Rinse and repeat. 

Many seem to think it's as simple as spraying hypo and leaving it but the scrubbing is the real key. You'd get those clean with soapy water and a stiff brush if you really wanted to. 

As for price.  Half day £280

  Will try what u said.

What's SH solution?  

£280?  That much for scrubbing walls? 

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

Pressure washing them will work just fine also.  HOWEVER.... AND THIS PART IS IMPORTANT. 

You need to do a survey first.  As you should be doing on ANY job.  

It's not just there's some dirt on the wall i'll clean it off...... as you your self pointed out.... what if the paint is deteriated?  Some concrete walls I have seen over the years are crumbling beneath the paint so perhaps a power washer is not the answer but untill inspected you dont know. .

Then there's the fact that if you're still not confident that you know how to do it properly and safely then you should just tell the owner.... 'Not for me thank you.... not something I can do'   

A customer will prefer an honest refusal to a poorly cleaned and damaged wall. 

 

[slippy]

Pressure washing them will work just fine also.  HOWEVER.... AND THIS PART IS IMPORTANT. 

You need to do a survey first.  As you should be doing on ANY job.  

It's not just there's some dirt on the wall i'll clean it off...... as you your self pointed out.... what if the paint is deteriated?  Some concrete walls I have seen over the years are crumbling beneath the paint so perhaps a power washer is not the answer but untill inspected you dont know. .

Then there's the fact that if you're still not confident that you know how to do it properly and safely then you should just tell the owner.... 'Not for me thank you.... not something I can do'   

A customer will prefer an honest refusal to a poorly cleaned and damaged wall. 

They're pretty new walls I think.  Anyhow, to survey them, do you just press in on parts of Wall to see if it goes in a bit,  therefore crumbly inside?   The problem with the pressure washer was on the tops of the walls where the dirt was very ingrained so had to go very close to remove it and this took some paint off not render.   That wall is getting repainted anyhow.  

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

A survey is just a visual inspection to check for any visable defects in the wall and the overall condition.  

If you're cleaning it with the aim of it being ready to repaint then the painter will appreciate you having removed any loose and flaking paint anyhow. 

 

[slippy]

A survey is just a visual inspection to check for any visable defects in the wall and the overall condition.  

If you're cleaning it with the aim of it being ready to repaint then the painter will appreciate you having removed any loose and flaking paint anyhow. 

What defects are you looking for in particular? 

 

[Green Pro Clean Ltd]

Please don't take this as rude but if you cant answer that question yourself you need to leave the job alone. 

I have already answered in the above comments. 

 

[CleanerWindows]

Please don't take this as rude but if you cant answer that question yourself you need to leave the job alone. 
 
I have already answered in the above comments. 

And that my friends is when MrGreen can't help any further without taking up his working day.

You will probably do better getting more information from the web or when we have finished for the day.

And don't take that the wrong way as MrGreen said. You might be a bit out your depth without looking into this further.

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[slippy]

Where do u guys buy your chemicals?  Hypo and other softwashing products.  Mask etc as well.  Just youtubed softwashing doesn't look like rocketscience but  h&s is important.  Also the previous gardener at the block of flats I do work on killed all the grass when cleaning the patio.  He got sacked. I guess he got hypo on the grass. 

 

[Mikejeffs]

They're pretty new walls I think.  Anyhow, to survey them, do you just press in on parts of Wall to see if it goes in a bit,  therefore crumbly inside?   The problem with the pressure washer was on the tops of the walls where the dirt was very ingrained so had to go very close to remove it and this took some paint off not render.   That wall is getting repainted anyhow.  

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[adamangler]

Just say no to the job and get some more window work. 

I never did softwashing but did a lot of pressure washing, carpets , gutters etc. 

Stopped doing them a few months ago to solely concentrate on windows and not only do i now earn more money I do significantly less fannying about. 

Trying to do a bit of everything only pulls you in too many directions.

 

[slippy]

Just say no to the job and get some more window work. 

I never did softwashing but did a lot of pressure washing, carpets , gutters etc. 

Stopped doing them a few months ago to solely concentrate on windows and not only do i now earn more money I do significantly less fannying about. 

Trying to do a bit of everything only pulls you in too many directions.

I know what you mean.  But I do the maintenance on a block of flats next door to this job every week for £130 (good money for me).  I am hoping this job  lands me regular work with this block of flats too. I just don't have the numbers for customers in window cleaning. Bournemouth and Poole are saturated with window cleaners and the money earned isn't that high. 

 

[slippy]

Just say no to the job and get some more window work. 

I never did softwashing but did a lot of pressure washing, carpets , gutters etc. 

Stopped doing them a few months ago to solely concentrate on windows and not only do i now earn more money I do significantly less fannying about. 

Trying to do a bit of everything only pulls you in too many directions.

A weak SH solution.  Apply first coat.  Stiff brush to agitate. Rinse and repeat. 

Many seem to think it's as simple as spraying hypo and leaving it but the scrubbing is the real key. You'd get those clean with soapy water and a stiff brush if you really wanted to. 

As for price.  Half day £280

That's what u did and they came up nice

Brush and washing up liquid then rinse. 

I sprayed hypo 4 to 1 with Surfactant on just the remaining lines (as in bottom photo). Couldn't shift those faint lines though 

 

[Dave B]

How long did you leave the hypo to dwell?

Did you re apply to the stubborn stains?

Why scrub with fairy first?..should have sprayed the whole wall.. agitated and left alone for up to an hour

 

[slippy]

How long did you leave the hypo to dwell?

Did you re apply to the stubborn stains?

Why scrub with fairy first?..should have sprayed the whole wall.. agitated and left alone for up to an hour

25 mins

Didn't reapply.  

. Was worried about the plants and the brushing alone seemed to get rid of the green algae stuff. 

So spray the whole wall next time with hypo and use the stiff bristled brush on it afterwards to get rid of those stubborn lines ? 

 

[Dave B]

Apply with an old wfp brush with fan jets and scrub while applying

Leave 30 minutes ish then re apply to stubborn lines etc

Leave another while then rinse

Should all go then