Diy Brush

Discussion in 'Water Fed Pole Cleaning' started by Belfastcleaning, Jul 14, 2012.

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  1. Belfastcleaning

    Belfastcleaning Grand Master
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    Anyone make Their own brushes? I have been keeping an eye out for a good looking brush head, haven't seen many tho.. But was going to try this for the first DIY brush...

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  2. rcproperty

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    yer i make all my brush heads! i'm trying to find time to get a video sorted and put up of one being made!
     
  3. spruce

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    In the early days when the best Vikan automotive brush weighed a ton, we bought Bentley brushes from Morrisons and fitted them with jets. They were lovely and light but didn't make good WFP brushes. They were too flocked and trapped too much dirt. They were also stiff and the bristles didn't splay, especially in the winter. I still have a Bentley brush on the van that I cut the centre bristles off by about 1/2" (if I remember correctly) hoping to get a better clean. I never tried it as Gardiners just launched their Super Light range.

    They were great - I bought a small selection of them. Now they are our brush of choice, we have no need to take a step backward. Messing around with brushes was rather distracting, time that was better spent focusing on the job and earning. Yes it may save you a couple of quid per brush, but it could end up costing more in wasted time.

    I'm still using the flocked Super Light I first bought, and although it's looking a little tired, it still has nearly all its bristles and still does a good job. I went though 2 or 3 Bentleys a year and although they cost about £3.00 each, they still had to be modified. It would have cost me more in Bentley's and time modifying them than the price of the Gardiner's brush IMHO.

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  4. Richard

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    A good wfp brush will earn can earn anywhere between £10,000 £20,000 before it should be replaced, not because the brush cant be used any more, a quality made brush will last many years, but because it will start to lose some of its ability and this affects cleaning time; your time will be much more valuable than the cost of a replacement brush stock.

    Some of the worst brushes can up to take 3-4 times longer to get the same results over other brushes; still you can save £20 or even £50

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  5. rcproperty

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    ahhh the salemans voice strikes again! lol only messing richard, with the brushes i make and use, its still cheaper for me to use them than spend on a brush over £40!
     
  6. Richard

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    Your right rcproperty, when I post about wfp brushes in part it is always going to be sales pitch. But I can honestly I use my brushes because they can be used faster than anything else available.

    It is cheaper to spend anything less than £40 on a wfp brush, window cleaning isn’t about selling a product; window cleaning is a face to face type business – providing a service – that is charged accordingly by how long a job takes.

    If I was to use one of the worst brushes that is marketed and sold for wfp window cleaning, over the course of a year I would lose at least the equivalent of 3 months time or income, but it would also be cheaper for me to use them when compared to spending over £40 on a brush!

    It’s a fine line for me to post about my brushes I wouldn’t want to sell a brush to someone who couldn’t exploit their use; the faster cleaning my brushes can do, does mean they can provide a much higher hourly rate. But they won’t be for everyone and you will always get some people good at saving money rather than making money.

    Richard
     
  7. Belfastcleaning

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    I don't want to make a brush to save money, I just want something to do!!

    I bought a gardiners sill brush just for fascia cleaning, cost just over £40... Has made me around £400 so far...

    I also have 2 gardiners super lite dual trims, 1 stiff 1 med mix.... When I was ordering there is just so many bloody options... Right just give me that one!!!! For some reason I just don't feel like they are any good?

    Im new to wfp so I'm taking ages anyway.. Duno if im scrubbing too much, not rinsing enough, rinsing too much....

    Richard- what is it exactly that makes your brushes better than others? I already know about the money and quicker, is it the bristles?
     
  8. rcproperty

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    i have spent about £20 on my brushes and for the year sofar it have made me over £9,000, and all happy customers, so why should i spend over £40 for one that dose the same job, that will only eat more into my profit and less money i will make!
     
  9. Richard

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    Yer could be, I don’t want to turn this into how much people can earn. So for an example only - a lot of small commercial work I do,I can charge very competativly giving the customer a great service and better price, this is important; with this work I can charge as little as £20 through to £35 maximum and average £70 per hour. If I were to use a un-suitable brush the work would still get done the customer will still be very happy but I cant expect to maintain that hourly rate with a slower brush, why would I even want to use a slower brush? So I can save a £100 per year on brushes.

    I offer 3 very different brush(es) bristles/monofilaments and a ‘real’ Hybrid Brush, I bet with most window cleaners there is a good chance they might have purchased a number of brushes, beliveing them to be different, when in fact the actual diffrences are minimal because they probably have the same or similar types of bristl/monofilament.

    Richard
     
  10. Paul

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    What would you suggest Richard I have brodex brushes and they are **** they hold all the little bits in the brissles then drop them onto the glass and it's really peeing me off and taking a lot more time to clean because I'm chasing bits around the glass and have to rinse for longer
     
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