Facelift 325 set up. How to start

[bowz]

How do you set up the Facelift 325?

 

[Iron Giant]

@Den would be the man, didn't you get any instructions or isn't there any uploads on YouTube

 

[spruce]

@Den would be the man, didn't you get any instructions or isn't there any uploads on YouTube

I'm not sure exactly what the o/p is asking, tbh. If his question also includes fitting the tank in his van, I doubt any supplier would include fitting instructions for DIY installation, as the risk of comeback would be too great.

In my opinion, the very question asked by @bowz tells me that he should get it fitted by someone who knows what he is doing. Fitting and securing a tank in the back of your van @bowz is very important. Everything will be fine until you need to brake in an emergency, or you have an accident. It's when this happens that you find out you got it wrong. Getting it wrong could cost you your life.

There was a minor bumper bashing accident a few years ago at a junction in Norfolk. Unfortunately, a window cleaner in a Caddy van was involved. His tank moved forward and impaled him on his steering wheel. He died. He was only young.

Depending on your van, you also need to fit the tank correctly, so it doesn't overload either axle or both axles. I always use my Peugeot Boxer van as an example. It has a payload of 1300kgs. I have a 650 litre tank fitted. If I fit it across the width of the van behind the front bulkhead, I will overload the front axle. So I either have to fit the tank length ways or width ways further back toward the rear axle. On my original 2 Citroën Relay vans I had the tank length ways, but I got a lot of 'dead space' in the 'corner' behind the driver which was difficult to access. Fitting it a little forward of the rear axle so given me enough space at the back between the tank and rear door to house a couple of hose reels, and opened up the space between the tank and the front bulkhead which is much more easily accessible.
Each van I bought, I fitted a factory supplied bulkhead I got off a supplier from Ebay. The factory unit is very strong when compared to an accessory you can buy made out of tin cans.

 

[spruce]

I honestly hope this window cleaner never gets involved in an accident.



This is a DIY botch imho.

 

[Iron Giant]

I honestly hope this window cleaner never gets involved in an accident.



This is a DIY botch imho.

@steve garwood 20 years ago

 

[scottish cleaning service]

@steve garwood 20 years ago

I would have thought his van insurance would be null and void due to the tank fitting.

 

[Iron Giant]

I would have thought his van insurance would be null and void due to the tank fitting.

Now or 20 years ago

 

[scottish cleaning service]

Now or 20 years ago

After a crash because that's when they look into things. Head on crash and tank comes through the front with occupants having no chance of escape. Seen it with metal drill pipe, took the driver's head off.

 

[spruce]

After a crash because that's when they look into things. Head on crash and tank comes through the front with occupants having no chance of escape. Seen it with metal drill pipe, took the driver's head off.

I still think that the reality of carrying a tank full of water is going to be unsafe in a head on collision at faster speeds and could well mean our death. The reality is that crash-tested tanks are only certificated at 30mph hitting a solid block. Hopefully a head on collision slightly above 30mph with another vehicle might be less devastating as the other vehicle isn't a solid block.

We can do our bit to prevent an accident by being more aware of other driver's actions. In the 1980's both myself and my wife did our advanced driver's course. It was the best thing we ever did. Patience is important when driving a wfp van, a quality my son doesn't have when driving his van around.

 

[Part Timer]

I still think that the reality of carrying a tank full of water is going to be unsafe in a head on collision at faster speeds and could well mean our death. The reality is that crash-tested tanks are only certificated at 30mph hitting a solid block. Hopefully a head on collision slightly above 30mph with another vehicle might be less devastating as the other vehicle isn't a solid block.

We can do our bit to prevent an accident by being more aware of other driver's actions. In the 1980's both myself and my wife did our advanced driver's course. It was the best thing we ever did. Patience is important when driving a wfp van, a quality my son doesn't have when driving his van around.

Unfortunately patience isn't a virtue I possess, especially behind the wheel of any vehicle

 

[Pjj]

Yes

I still think that the reality of carrying a tank full of water is going to be unsafe in a head on collision at faster speeds and could well mean our death. The reality is that crash-tested tanks are only certificated at 30mph hitting a solid block. Hopefully a head on collision slightly above 30mph with another vehicle might be less devastating as the other vehicle isn't a solid block.

We can do our bit to prevent an accident by being more aware of other driver's actions. In the 1980's both myself and my wife did our advanced driver's course. It was the best thing we ever did. Patience is important when driving a wfp van, a quality my son doesn't have when driving his van around.

yes you are right spruce but most tanks are designed so that they rupchure and the shock load is removed so it doesn’t continue forward most with lids built in they pops off allowing the water to go up to the roof of the van removing the inertia and forward movement, but this only applies to professional set ups not a tank ratchet strapped up against a bulk head

 

[spruce]

Unfortunately patience isn't a virtue I possess, especially behind the wheel of any vehicle

My wife neither.
Driving a bigger van means I have reduced speed limits to adhere to. I'm so used to driving around locally at 50mph or less, that I drive at these speeds in the family car.
I get moaned at continually for driving like an old f..t. I then cover myself by commenting that I wish they would ban all old age pensioners from the road.

ps. I'm an old age pensioner. ?

 

[scottish cleaning service]

My wife neither.
Driving a bigger van means I have reduced speed limits to adhere to. I'm so used to driving around locally at 50mph or less, that I drive at these speeds in the family car.
I get moaned at continually for driving like an old f..t. I then cover myself by commenting that I wish they would ban all old age pensioners from the road.

ps. I'm an old age pensioner. ?

You sound like a taurus. ?

 

[Den]

How do you set up the Facelift 325?

I didn’t get spreader plates with mine just tec screw that they attached it to the pallet., four Mounting brackets each bracket as 2 holes so you need 8 tensile nut and bolts plus four spreader plates for under the van.