Gutter vac upgrade

Discussion in 'Gutter & Fascia Cleaning' started by Iain kinnell, Feb 11, 2015.

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  1. Iain kinnell

    Iain kinnell Member
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    Hi all any recommendations for a gutter vacuum that can go 3 storeys in height.
    I done a 2 storey in December with my omnipole junior which did the job.
    However I have had 2 quotes to do at care homes and one is a 3 storey.
    All advice and recommendations welcome.
    Also any advice in getting commercial gutter work as these have come through a friend who has a large window cleaning contract.
    Thanks
     
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  2. Smurf

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    Myself I prefer to stay well clear of 3 storey guttervac jobs now only because I can and don't want to be going up ladders etc if a problem occures.
     
  3. Jimroot

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    Check out the litres per second flow rates and quoted ranges, the junior will be a lot less than a more powerful vac.

    Like Grand Master Smurf, I too will avoid three story as I don't want to travel that high to fix a self made problem :)

    Maybe invest in a mobile tower and a helper?
     
  4. Iain kinnell

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    I must admit I wouldn't fancy getting up the ladder that height, have to ring the fire brigade lol.
    I found another machine but the hose was 38mm instead of 50mm so more blockages??
     
  5. Jimroot

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    Yeah I guess more blocks but more suction per cubic mm (?), I've got a 51mm entry and hose, but check the internal diameter of the poles too as that's less.

    Prob factor in the cost of hiring a ladder/tower and a mate should you need to in the event of having to climb up. Like a risk/cost assessment and add that to the quote.

    Say it costs 200 to fix a problem that might occur 1 in 4 times, add 50 to the quote perhaps.
     
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    One of my very first guttervac jobs was on an old victorian building. The type that has steps to the front door over an open basment area below. One corner was full of sods that would not come out no matter how I tried using hooks to try and break it up first & try to suck the sods out. I spent ages trying but gave up in the end and that was using a 4200 watt guttervac. I had cleared the rest of the front guttering but because I could not clear out that coner the chap said "I'm not paying you" :(

    I learnt very quickly that some jobs need to be done by hand properly. Especially in corners with tiny gaps with sods matted together and tightly packed under flashing.



     
  7. Jimroot

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    Hope you shoved all the **** back through his letter box smurf. Should have paid you a percentage.

    Do you think a stiff carbon pole with hook on would help? The harris poles are floppy at 5m

    I've seen some three story turf gutters but I wouldnt quote them. Or the main road ones with hardly any pavement. Sod that
     
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    That one was on a step hill close by a busy road. I got very close to lossing control of the guttervac pole when it got taken by a gust of wind that nearly hit a passing double decker bus.... I shat myself then decided this guttervac marlarky was not a very clever idea :D
     
  9. Rascal

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    I do three storey properties quite often and to this day I have never had a problem. I think I have been quite lucky! I do have the ladders to get up to 10m to fix any problems if they occur but that would only be if I knocked a joint loose or something, and so far it hasn't happened, and when it does it will probably be the last!

    Also there is quite a bit of difference in height on 3 storey houses. Old victorian buildings like smurf is on about can be a few metres taller than some newish build block of flats. I turned up to one recently that was described as 3 storey 2 bed. I get a bit complacent sometimes and in my head it was a small terrace with loft conversion. It turned out to be 3 storey victorian with basement, gutters at about 40'. 4 flats in total. I could see the downpipe was blocked as the wall was soaking. I took one look called the customer gave him what for for grossly underdescribing the property and moved on to the next job. To be fair I didn't even look at it on Google which was my fault.......

    Anyway to answer your question I have a numatic 2400w and works fine with 30' of poles and 5m of hose. You can pick up cheap 3000w vacs but would need to convert for 50mm hose somehow.
     
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    I will only take on the odd so say easier 3 storey or taller 2 storey gutter job now. That is why it's important for me to do a full gutter camera survey and risk assessment so I can see what I'm up against first before deciding if it's worth the hassle or not.

     
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