Im on the brink of giving up window cleaning :(

Discussion in 'Traditional Window Cleaning' started by jordan, Jun 11, 2014.

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  1. jordan

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    Hello everyone once again JORDAN has a big problem i started window cleaning 6 weeks ago
    I have 50 customers which is great i have had 3 customers complain saying as soon as the sun comes out there windows look terribly smeary !(i am literally begging for the answer)
    1 customers complained so i went back did it again (which took 2 hours to make sure it was right i checked it then left)
    went there today looks sh@t again!
    I will now go through everything i use and my method!
    water=hot water
    liquid=morning fresh washing up liquid( i know its not the best but surely its not going to make smears)
    ive changed my rubber endless times !
    So i start with a bucket of hot water add some liquid not loads but enough to get it a bit bubbly on the windows
    i start by using a cloth wiping frames and glass then i use a scouring pad and scrub glass and frames to make sure its clean
    then i use my applicator get in the corners clean it ENOUGH
    then i use my blade left to right or top to bottom as there smallish residential windows
    i then dry frames and detail with chamois(i dont use chamois on middle of glass just detailing)
    THATS ALL I DO PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME THE ANSWER I HAVE TRIED USING LESS MORNING FRESH LIQUID
    could it be the morning fresh?
    remember this is 3 customers and ive checked after they have complained and they look really smeary
     
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  2. boarcity

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    youre probably spending too long at each window . trying too hard . you Must work quickly when blading the glass . first SCRUB well with applicator in several directions or you wont have lifted off all the dirt into the solution , then blade off and touch up quickly and thats it .


    it wont be too much or too little washing up liquid or the brand cos its not critical.

    dont worry - easy to say but thats what you must not do,worryin wont get u anywhere
    just press on and within another month you will get confident .

    i use cold water year round
     
  3. Tuffers

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    I use cold too, unless I get a fussy bugger who wants me to use their hot water (god knows why as it's cold by the time the applicator hits the glass, but do it to please them). Maybe your chamois is leaving the smears? Have you got a scrim or microfibre you could detail with? I'm not sure where you're using the scouring pad, it reads as though you're using it on the glass :eek:.

    Don't give up, you'll suss it :thumbsup:
     
  4. cheapncheerful

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    yeh ditto tuffers "i use a scouring pad ":eek: i hope its a window safe type....

    most of all dont give up just try something different...we all make mistakes...i have cleaned windows all my life and yet today when i went inside i spotted two marks outside so nobody is perfect..

    try good ole fairy first as i know it doesnt cause problems all though i have used whatever i find under the custys kitchen sink as its free and never had any problems....

    its a shame you are not near anyone on here because i am sure they would offer to help you ...i certainly would...

    on the problem windows just spray with window spray and wipe off with a clean cloth for now until you find out what you are doing wrong...and keep reading on here...most of all ...dont give up...i make mistakes at lots of things but ...i would never give up....

    i would never do a runner:whistle: who me....
     
  5. mrtaytay

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    Dont give up yet jordan. You are bound to have a few set backs to begin with and you have done really well to get 50 customers so far.

    I am not sure why you are using a scouring pad on the glass. The applicator is all you need to clean glass and there is normally an abrasive pad on the end of the applicator which can be used for removing any stubborn marks such as bird poo. Hot or cold water will do the same job and the amount of detergent shouldnt cause smears as long as you are using the squeegee correctly. If you are doing straight pulls then I would suggest that, first of all, you wipe the edge you are pulling from with a piece of dry towell or a micro fibre cloth......this will stop water being pulled across or down the glass, which could be causing the smears. Once you have squeegeed then detail just around the edge. I use a large microfibre glass cloth. Others will use scrim. Its personal preference. As I said, just detail the edge....leave the rest of the glass alone.

    There are loads of good videos on youtube about squeegee technique.

    Keep your chin up Jordan.....you will master it and things will get better.
     
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    Hot water is your first issue. The aim of the game is to get the water off before it evaporates, so if you're putting on hot water on a hot day, you are making life very hard for yourself.

    Try ecover and vinegar mix instead of morning fresh. Its good stuff and may just help you. That said, there must be bigger issues here as I'm sure most windies can get a good clean out of any old liquid regardless.

    Scrap the chamois and go for a bone dry scrim instead.


    That would be my method anyway, everyone has different methods and so long as they work its fine, but since what you are doing is not working, its worth trying different stuff. Good luck with it fella.
     
  7. Tuffers

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    ^^^ great advice mrtaytay. I've seen cleaners buff the glass with a scrim after blading it! WTF is that all about? Let the blade do the work Jordan and only use a cloth on the edge (using just your finger tips in the cloth) of the glass.
     
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    ahh, but i have to point out after the storm of slime, as i named it i lost a lot of confidence and started to scrim after blading as i was seeing blade marks....normally i would never ever touch the window after blading as static can attract more dust..

    thank god its gone now and hopefully wont come back for a while....coming on here saved my life jordan as i thought it was me or my equipment, but others posted it was funny stuff..

    oh its great to just blade and go now...
     
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    Jordan, dont give up and try your best. I started in november and just feel now im getting quicker with the squeegee action, i still get the rubber flippin and leaving soap behind, most annoying, still trying to work out angles to hold squeegee. I get annoyed:mad: by little marks left behind even though ive scrubbed like a mad man. I use a slightly damp glass polishing cloths that take them off. Some windows are easier to do than others, If its the same three customers and the others are fine, maybe somthing weird going on. As already suggested get the right cloths.
    Ive started using Facelift Razrblade rubber-http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/SKU5339.html amazing stuff was informed by well seasoned windy cleaner that it wears well compared to pulex, it also flys along the glass when glass is soaped up. I use ecover. i tried a new squeegee recently with pulex it was like trying to get mud of the glass compared to facelift. but I did buy some pulex as it was only 20p:eek: for 14" strips fromhttp://www.windowcleaningstuff.co.uk/

    Dig in Jordan, I still worry about some customers the night before I go, but you gotta go. Chin up and all the best:thumbsup:
     
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