Is 70years old , too old.

[Iron Giant]

he seemed to enjoy the company.

But did anyone enjoy his

 

[Iron Giant]

7 days a week of work?
What a waste of a life
I’m 55 and I’m down to 4 full days now. that’s plenty, I have other more enjoyable stuff to do.

I'm 49 years old and have been down to a 4 day week for over 6 months, more to life than working, got to enjoy life while we can

 

[steve garwood]

Find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life they say. Scottish was always on 7 days, he seemed to enjoy the company.

Just my opinion, but anyone working 7 days a week when they don’t need the money is a bit of a saddo.
So many things in this life better than working

 

[P4dstar]

But did anyone enjoy his

Thats where it all falls to pieces

 

[P4dstar]

Just my opinion, but anyone working 7 days a week when they don’t need the money is a bit of a saddo.
So many things in this life better than working

I feel like that personally but everyone is different. Each to their own I say.

 

[Col]

Turned 60 the other week.
39 years on the glass and 36 years self employed.

I work 6 mornings a week.
Weather permitting.

Leave the house around 8.45 am and miss the worse of the rush hour traffic and aim to be home around 1.30 pm each day.
Mostly Trad which i prefer but have van with WFP and each week changes with booked in jobs and a few days regular weekly and monthly jobs.
Saturday mornings are easier for city centre jobs for parking and i work the odd sunday morning.
Some customers i have i have known for over 30 years and now clean their childrens houses and in some cases their grandchildren.
Did my dinger in when younger and chased the pound and still remember the 12 hour shifts every friday with going collecting in the evenings.

My biggest fear is having to give it up and spend restless nights trying to get to sleep thinking what the hell i am going to do with myself the next day.
Keeps me fit and with walking my dogs a good way to keep active in mind and body and a good way to avoid the wife and probably the secret for a long and happy marriage.

Age is just a number a long as my knees hold out.

 

[adamangler]

Im down to 3 days a week since new year. Im 43, decided enough was enough slogging through each day miserable with this job. The winters are long and depressing and the body is feeling the toll of 10 years lifting a pole up and down... tennis elbow, constant hand and wrist pain and the shoulders...

I feel a lot better working a 3 day week, its given me the energy to get back to the gym and start exercising again, i couldnt be bothered after a days work in the past.

Money really isnt that important when you are just plain fed up, no doubt i suffer from bouts of depression but the solitarty nature of the job and the weather and monotony had burned me out.

 

[Pjj]

Im down to 3 days a week since new year. Im 43, decided enough was enough slogging through each day miserable with this job. The winters are long and depressing and the body is feeling the toll of 10 years lifting a pole up and down... tennis elbow, constant hand and wrist pain and the shoulders...

I feel a lot better working a 3 day week, its given me the energy to get back to the gym and start exercising again, i couldnt be bothered after a days work in the past.

Money really isnt that important when you are just plain fed up, no doubt i suffer from bouts of depression but the solitarty nature of the job and the weather and monotony had burned me out.

Sounds like you could do with a change of job ? Don’t understand why you have so many physical issues using the pole I’ve been using WFP for 22 years 5 days a week and don’t have any of those issues , does your technique need adapting?

 

[Iron Giant]

Im down to 3 days a week since new year. Im 43, decided enough was enough slogging through each day miserable with this job. The winters are long and depressing and the body is feeling the toll of 10 years lifting a pole up and down... tennis elbow, constant hand and wrist pain and the shoulders...

I feel a lot better working a 3 day week, its given me the energy to get back to the gym and start exercising again, i couldnt be bothered after a days work in the past.

Money really isnt that important when you are just plain fed up, no doubt i suffer from bouts of depression but the solitarty nature of the job and the weather and monotony had burned me out.

You mentioned in the past maybe last year or longer than that, that you ain't too happy with window cleaning it might be time to consider wrapping it all in, a lad I knew a good few years ago would nearly always be complaining about his business and been fed up surprisingly I spoke to someone the other week who said he had wrapped it in a few years ago,
the
depression I get it, I struggle with my mental health at times and it's no picnic being out at work in crappy weather, for the last few years I decided to buy some earbuds and I listen to music all day long at work this has definitely helped with how I feel at work, 25 years of working on my own it isn't for everyone, but I'd never go work for someone and get low paid and have to work 5 days a week

 

[adamangler]

Sounds like you could do with a change of job ? Don’t understand why you have so many physical issues using the pole I’ve been using WFP for 22 years 5 days a week and don’t have any of those issues , does your technique need adapting?

Everyones body is different I guess. I've done manual labour since I was 16 before manual handling guidelines where a thing we were just flogged like dogs. I just think I've took a hammering or maybe its arthritis.

It's definitely not just me I used to work with a lad who had constant shoulder pain and he was 10 years younger than me.

Just the other day I was talking to a window cleaner doing next doors and he said he had the same issues with his wrists and elbow.

 

[dazmond]

At 43 your not old Adam but it sounds like your body is failing you already. I agree that smart working is the way forward when your doing an active,outdoor job but if your working 3 day weeks now and suffering it's time to think about selling up and moving onto something else...

The key here is you hate cleaning windows,you always have,you admit you don't like talking to your customers either....

I've got 8 jobs to clean today 5 houses,2 children's homes and a car showroom. I'm gonna start at 930am and I'll be finished for 3pm,£289....To me that's heaven!

Yesterday was even better! I did 4 hours work at £85 an hour so £340.(3 offices,narrow boat clubhouse,4 large houses)

Where else can you earn £600+ for 9 hours of actually work/cleaning

No work colleagues that irritate you,listen to radio/music/audiobook while you work,fresh air and exercise....its a fantastic job IMO

By 4pm I'll have my feet up with a brew and plenty of energy for my gym session at 8pm. I'm also 10 years older than you(53).

 

[dazmond]

No ladder climbing or collecting anymore like the so called ' good old days'.....window cleaning is so much easier in 2025 than when I started in 1993.

 

[steve garwood]

At 43 your not old Adam but it sounds like your body is failing you already. I agree that smart working is the way forward when your doing an active,outdoor job but if your working 3 day weeks now and suffering it's time to think about selling up and moving onto something else...

The key here is you hate cleaning windows,you always have,you admit you don't like talking to your customers either....

I've got 8 jobs to clean today 5 houses,2 children's homes and a car showroom. I'm gonna start at 930am and I'll be finished for 3pm,£289....To me that's heaven!

Yesterday was even better! I did 4 hours work at £85 an hour so £340.(3 offices,narrow boat clubhouse,4 large houses)

Where else can you earn £600+ for 9 hours of actually work/cleaning

No work colleagues that irritate you,listen to radio/music/audiobook while you work,fresh air and exercise....its a fantastic job IMO

By 4pm I'll have my feet up with a brew and plenty of energy for my gym session at 8pm. I'm also 10 years older than you(53).

Just a post full of boasting .

Thought Scottish had come back for a minute

 

[P4dstar]

Everyones body is different I guess. I've done manual labour since I was 16 before manual handling guidelines where a thing we were just flogged like dogs. I just think I've took a hammering or maybe its arthritis.

It's definitely not just me I used to work with a lad who had constant shoulder pain and he was 10 years younger than me.

Just the other day I was talking to a window cleaner doing next doors and he said he had the same issues with his wrists and elbow.

You've gotta look outside the box on this one. Dietary changes, get your vitamin levels checked and take supplements. There are people who claim to have cured arthritis and even types of cancer with the Keto diet for example. It has pushed me to try it and it has cured my dermatitis. My hands used to be so sore and cracked I couldn't hold the pole some days. Not saying that specific diet is for you, I did it because it reduces inflammation. Worth considering some holistic stuff and health changes though.

 

[spruce]

You've gotta look outside the box on this one. Dietary changes, get your vitamin levels checked and take supplements. There are people who claim to have cured arthritis and even types of cancer with the Keto diet for example. It has pushed me to try it and it has cured my dermatitis. My hands used to be so sore and cracked I couldn't hold the pole some days. Not saying that specific diet is for you, I did it because it reduces inflammation. Worth considering some holistic stuff and health changes though.

Our diabetic nurse practitioner recommended the Keto diet for me. So far, reducing carbs has helped me control my blood sugars along with a daily Metforim tablet. It saved me from Insulin injections they were going to start me on straight away.

So pasta, rice, biscuits and bread are totally off the menu as is chocolate. Morning Granola cereal breakfast has also gone, just a few nuts replaces that.

We will see if the carb reduced diet has made an impression on my prostate cancer in the next few months.

 

[tench0771]

I no a chap 82 still going just

 

[dazmond]

Just a post full of boasting .

Thought Scottish had come back for a minute

I forgot to mention having an appropriate sized van for your needs,a diesel hot water system ,electric reel and xtreme poles all help with window cleaning too and just makes it easy and enjoyable!

I'm proud of my round and van......

Scottish is really irritating everyone on CIU but don't tar me with the same brush!(I don't do odd jobs for customers like he does)...he was sawing edges off customers tiles the other week in between window cleaning!

 

[dazmond]

You've gotta look outside the box on this one. Dietary changes, get your vitamin levels checked and take supplements. There are people who claim to have cured arthritis and even types of cancer with the Keto diet for example. It has pushed me to try it and it has cured my dermatitis. My hands used to be so sore and cracked I couldn't hold the pole some days. Not saying that specific diet is for you, I did it because it reduces inflammation. Worth considering some holistic stuff and health changes though.

The 4 pillars of health are....

1 diet
2.exercise
3.good quality sleep
4.keep stress down to a minimum

Prioritise all 4 as much as possible and you will build a strong,resilient mind and body

Adam admits he lives off junk food most of the time...

Most people who adhere to the 4 principles above very rarely have mental health problems esp if they stay away from alcohol,cigarettes and street drugs

 

[P4dstar]

Our diabetic nurse practitioner recommended the Keto diet for me. So far, reducing carbs has helped me control my blood sugars along with a daily Metforim tablet. It saved me from Insulin injections they were going to start me on straight away.

So pasta, rice, biscuits and bread are totally off the menu as is chocolate. Morning Granola cereal breakfast has also gone, just a few nuts replaces that.

We will see if the carb reduced diet has made an impression on my prostate cancer in the next few months.

The bit that always troubles me is the need to throw medication in. Metformin is such a generic tablet. My wife used to work in a pharmacy, it was one of the highest stocked drugs. Until someone says it you assume that the doctor is so clever in choosing a particular type of medication, as if he or she opens up a book with thousands of options and finds the specific treatment for your exact symptoms. In truth they have a handful of staple drugs which the pharmacy refer to as “generic old people medication” and everyone gets a mix of those, often chopped and changed until they hopefully find the right balance. It’s not actually based on the persons need. They got my mum to take a statin. She was dead less than 30 days later. I’m not suggesting the statin killed her but it certainly didn’t help. While she sat dying in her hospital bed I did the research and read the studies (which in truth I didn’t understand as much as a doctor would) to see if the known side effects in any way mirrored her symptoms. They did not but there was evidence to suggest it intersected with her other medication and kick started problems. She died of “heart failure” but had other ailments that had occurred in the time she was in hospital including a blood clot in her stomach which does also lead me to question the impact the 5 vaccines she took had on her.

The problem is doctors don’t have the time to sit and read the thousands of studies that come out and get to know the drugs they’re prescribing so they rely on the soundbites about it. Often a pharmaceutical rep will come in and tell them about a new wonder drug and they will prescribe it in place of an existing one. This than throws a patient out of balance as it interacts with other drugs. That is a large part of why you see the golden oldies always in the surgery.

Apologies, I’ve gone on a rant there. I’m actually really impressed with your diabetic nurse for also bringing dietary changes into it. And I’m impressed with you for trying it. So many people are told about these types of things but don’t actually make the change!

With regards to granola try this stuff from Holland & Barret. They’ve got it in a few different flavours. Mix it with some natural yoghurt and it makes a lovely breakfast. I have found that dark chocolate (70% stuff) has become much more appealing now I can’t have normal chocolate.

You keep fighting the good fight Spruce. We all need you round here mate!

 

[P4dstar]

Scottish is really irritating everyone on CIU but don't tar me with the same brush!(I don't do odd jobs for customers like he does)...he was sawing edges off customers tiles the other week in between window cleaning!

It’s actually quite sad but he irritates most people. Poor fella just wants some people to chat to. The only issue I ever had is he can sometimes be giving very poor advice.

 

[P4dstar]

The 4 pillars of health are....

1 diet
2.exercise
3.good quality sleep
4.keep stress down to a minimum

Prioritise all 4 as much as possible and you will build a strong,resilient mind and body

Adam admits he lives off junk food most of the time...

Most people who adhere to the 4 principles above very rarely have mental health problems esp if they stay away from alcohol,cigarettes and street drugs

Yup, I only know of one person who is an exception to that rule. Generally those things are a recipe for a good solid foundation. I do think however, once you’ve started to break they can take a long while to actually work. If you’ve spent years nailing junk food, playing computer games all night (or replying on the window cleaning forum at 4am ) then you’re likely to need time for your body to recover. Similarly people believe they like that sort of lifestyle, particularly the partying and drinking/eating aspect. When you break it down even the actual actions at the time aren’t sometimes enjoyable. Maybe the first bite of junk food but not the feeling of being bloated by the end of the meal. The initial few beers are great but you lose control relatively quickly. I believe it’s 80% diet.

The only other thing I would add is keep yourself on as few medications as possible. I’m forced to be on blood thinning medication because I had a blood clot in my lung with no obvious cause. I imagined however to get the dosage taken from 20 to 10mg and with the reductions I got off the generic medication they gave to protect my stomach.