650 litre tank big enough

[leeroy711]

Not sure weather to get a 650 litre tank or go for a 800 litre will be two of us doing 8 hour days don't want to be running out as some of my work is a bit of a drive so nipping back home to fill up won't always be a option. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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[spruce]

What van have you got?

 

[leeroy711]

Hi spruce I have a vivaro 1.9

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[leeroy711]

I'm not sure on the payload on it to be honest sure its over 1000kg I'm new to it all

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[luca]

Not sure weather to get a 650 litre tank or go for a 800 litre will be two of us doing 8 hour days don't want to be running out as some of my work is a bit of a drive so nipping back home to fill up won't always be a option. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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I have no idea of your experience.. it may be 20 years more than ours but if you are pretty good 650L are a decent amount of water.. I changed all vans from 500 to 650 and we almost never run out and they turn over massive money. If your van can take it though go bigger I guess but I was iffy getting to 650... had to put the guys on diets haha

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[chris clean]

This might be a stupid question sorry if it is!! But how much does say a 350L tank or 500/800L whatever weigh? Cheers

 

[leeroy711]

I'm trad at the min luca so no experience with wfp yet. I was thinking of tradding the bottoms and wfp the tops to start with. Don't suppose you know if a vivaro could take a 800 litre? Last thing I want is to have a accident and be over loaded. If not we may need to be on a diet too lol

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[TJTOPCAT]

1 litre of water weighs 1kg in weight.

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[chris clean]

Thanks @TJTOPCAT

 

[Part Timer]

2900 lwb Vivaro should be OK for an 800l water tank. The 2700 swb won't be though as tank of water and frame etc is about 1000kgs. This wouldn't leave enough for 2 men and other gear. Let alone diesel and Van filtration.

650l tank with 2 men will last about 6 hours of continuous work in my experience.

 

[leeroy711]

Thanks TJTOPCAT and part timer, mine is the 2700 swb, if I got the 650 if need be I could have some 25l barrels but surely I should have enough if I'm tradding most of the bottoms. I spoke to pure freedom and they said there most popular 2 man system was the 650 litre

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[Part Timer]

That has a 1100kg payload so should be OK for a 650l tank. I saw a 650l tank being installed in a Transit Compact. If you're tradding then that will comfortably last all day.

 

[Rob_Gleam window cleaning]

I've got a 650ltr two man facelift RO/DI system in my swb ford custom an it does two of us 8hrs a day. We do between 50 an 60 properties a day an we've never run out. Hope this helps you decide.

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[leeroy711]

Cheers mate 650l I think then, what's best way of transferring pure from 25l barrels into van tank without spilling as I could always chuck a few of them in if needed

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[leeroy711]

Thanks rob mate, I only thought bigger as a local guy round me says he uses around 500l a day on his own!! I did think that was a lot, cheers for reply

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[luca]

I'm trad at the min luca so no experience with wfp yet. I was thinking of tradding the bottoms and wfp the tops to start with. Don't suppose you know if a vivaro could take a 800 litre? Last thing I want is to have a accident and be over loaded. If not we may need to be on a diet too lol

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Definitely don't need 800 if your trad just moving into it... don't get excited haha!! 650L will do you and worse ways you just change the tank if you need to in future... minor procedure!! Sure you'll use more water but even if your new you should easily do £400 + with 650L on regulars. We used to do £400+ with 500L tanks if that puts a perspective on it?! Not sure money is a good measure for such a wide ranging forum that covers so many different areas but it's the only way I really work it out... sorry if doesn't make sense.

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[luca]

Thanks rob mate, I only thought bigger as a local guy round me says he uses around 500l a day on his own!! I did think that was a lot, cheers for reply

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500L a day on your own?! **** that!! He's either **** or lying or gonna be washed out soon... I wouldn't wanna work that much every day!!

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[leeroy711]

Yeah I get you Luca thanks for advice good way at looking at things. I'm going to go with 650 see how I get on. So much to learn making the move on to wfp but I'm sure it will be worth it!! I did look at him when funny he was showing me his system and said I use all the 500L a day thinking it was a lot of water for one man and he's being wfp for about 10 years now!

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[Rob_Gleam window cleaning]

Hey Lee, I've been in business 20 years this year an done all mostly by trad up til bout 8 years ago when got a static tank in me garage an did a few tops by trolley an pole. But changed fully over to van mounted Wfd system early last year, best thing I ever did mate!!! You will never look back, I'm telling ya. It's so much better and the results are amazing every time. Just remember bud it's all about the rinse an you won't go far wrong. Make that move soon an good luck m8 [emoji846][emoji106]

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[spruce]

500L a day on your own?! **** that!! He's either **** or lying or gonna be washed out soon... I wouldn't wanna work that much every day!!

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In the early days both the lads had 500 liter tanks in their vans. There was the option of fitting 400 liter tanks but others experiences indicated that these were occasionally a tad too small for a days work . So a larger tank was fitted to account for any abnormal use.

For example; we have a large commercial job that comprises of one window after another. Its done once a year and we will empty a 500 liter tank a day with one operator as the pump is running most of the time. Last year we used about 900 liters a day for 5 days just working off my van.

So the size of tank fitted and where you work will have a profound effect on the amount of water you use a day. We find we use much more water when we clean windows on the coast than when we clean a little inland which is not directly effected by the salty sea spray. We also only have one IBC tank as storage so the lads couldn't fill their vans at the same time. A bigger tank gave us the option to be more flexible with fill times as they would have a little in reserve.

What I don't understand is why you think that cleaner is lying and then express it in expletives when you don't know who he is or why he said that. I personally don't think there is any need for that. If someone asked me for advise on what size tank they should fit, I would recommend the biggest they can. The model and payload of the van are important factors to consider. If the van will 'support' a 500 liter tank I will recommend that. There isn't much of a price difference between the cost of a 400 and 500 liter plastic Wyedale tank. So having a larger tank with a DIY fitted system makes sense to me.

If you have a van with a payload of 600kgs then you need to look at smaller tanks as a 500 liter tank will full will overload the van.

My son and I mainly work off my van these days @leeroy711. We don't work long hours due to my health and his responsibilities picking our grandson up from school. We probably use 350 to 400 liters a day on average between us.

There are several other 2 man teams that use 650 liters tanks in our area quite successfully. On occasion they may have to top up during the day, but they know which days these are.

The recommendation is to plan your route and then start at the furthest point and work back toward your water source. If you have to top up then it will be toward the end of the day so you won't have too far to travel back to base. If you pop home for lunch/coffee then take the opportunity to top the tank up.

As @luca says, tradding some windows will reduce your daily water usage. As in my cases, you cut you cloth accordingly as the saying goes.

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[9Nroberts4]

Get yourself a tigger from sureclean systems Trigger > Sureclean Systems best thing I've invested in. Saved me atleast 1/4 of a tank each day. I've got a 650L in my 06 Vivaro and I've got about 100/150L left over some days

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