Ladders Or No Ladders!

Discussion in 'Traditional Window Cleaning' started by steclowe, Jun 17, 2013.

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  1. steclowe

    steclowe Newcomer
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    Hi again,

    I have posted on here before, asking for your advice and thoughts as I am currently in the process of getting into the Window Cleaning game and am at present doing my research and learning the trade through practice, practice and a little more practice but I have another question.

    I have noticed that some of you Trad guys are no longer using ladders and are using a Trad pole instead for all of the high windows!

    Do you guys NEVER use ladders anymore or are they still used on occasion?? I only ask because as you know, Ladders are a large part of the outlay when setting up and if you can do as good a job without them, then I would hate to waste money!! - I'm more than happy to buy some if its what is needed to do a good job, just wondered what you guys think!!

    Many thanks
    Steve

    Also, if using ladders, do you use anything like the Rojak Ladder Stopper??

    Thanks again!
     
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  2. Bernie

    Bernie Active Member
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    Hi Steve I'm new to it aswell part from a little bit I done over 20 year ago and all seems diff now lol anyways I asked same sort of thing and was told to do a good trad job u really need to go up a ladder. And as I come off a set a few year bk I'm not going to rush back up a set lol so in going for wfp or wagtail the tops and trad the bottoms.i think the wfp looks ok...but deep down to me a window cleaner should av a blade n mop in he's hand. But I guess it's better then the risk of a full n being out work for how ever long or even worst.
     
  3. steclowe

    steclowe Newcomer
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    Thanks for that Bernie, I was thinking along the same lines to be honest, wagtail the tops and trad the bottoms!!! - Guess as long as you do a good job and the customer is happy it doesn't really matter!!!
     
  4. Bernie

    Bernie Active Member
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    Yep think a good job is all that's going to count really mate. Have a look on YouTube at Christopher dawber....Mr wagga Lol He's the muts nuts with a wagtail.
     
  5. steclowe

    steclowe Newcomer
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    Thanks again Bernie, just had a look at Mr Wagga lol - Very impressive!!
     
  6. David@Aqua

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    Hi all
    I am a traditional window cleaner but have started to use wfp tops and trad bottoms, i think all window cleaners should have a set of ladders, What if you need to clean some bird muck of the glass or gum or somet you cant get off with an applicator, Wfp or a scrapper you will look silly not being able to clean the windows, and they are essential for gutter work or uPVC cleaning, I would not use a wagtail contently for tops maybe the odd window and shop front that are to high.
     
  7. Bernie

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    I see what your saying David but if you cant get it of with a scrapper what else u ment to use lol and a scrapper can be used with a pole.and if you do gutters can't you just use a gutter vac.? And frames and sills can be done from the ground first cleans may work out a bit more hard work n time but where there's a will theres a way lol but don't get me wrong ur prob right bout having ladders. But I think you can get away with doing the tops first clean with a wfp even if you have a bucket with some ecover to dip ya brush in it just for a scrub over. Then if custy wants trad on the tops next time you could use a wagtail.i don't no if right or wrong but is the way I'm planing anythink to stay of ladders hahaha
     
  8. steclowe

    steclowe Newcomer
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    Thanks David@Aqua, what you say does make a lot of sense!

    Many thanks.
     
  9. David@Aqua

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    Sorry
    With a scraper on a pole or on the upvc you will have to get up close and personal and if he was able to just get a gutter vac he wouldnt be asking if ladders are a need be I would personally get them, I do gutter, Fascia & soffit cleaning & uPVC cleaning and you need ladders for this, going back to original post i have a pair of ladder mats from screw fix, It levels the ladder and gives you grip another point I had tried using wagtail on a few of my customers and sometimes it did not do the job
     
  10. steclowe

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    Thanks again David@aqua, your points do make a lot of sense, I think I will be investing in a set, I cannot afford, nor do I want to invest in WFP at the moment as Bernie and a lot of others suggest although I can see Bernies point as well!!
     
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