Hi lads, here's my final post here, (not that anyone's bothered) decided to go into the office sandwich delivery business. Much more user friendly (you dont get wet, meet nice people, and make a bloody good income, plus some of the customers are very nice to look at) The money to be made at catering is quite astounding, the mark up is unbeleivable, people are just too lazy to make there own food. Early starts but an early finish, this isn't work, it's a pleasure to actually go to work. Window cleaning is a tough way to make a living, it's a rather thankless task, and can be soul destroying at times, I'm pleased to be leaving it. If you dont enjoy what your doing it becomes a chore and a drain on your life (and I never really enjoyed it) If you enjoy what you do for a living you NEVER work a day in your life, somebody said that to me years ago and it's a fact. I haven't been posting for long but I have enjoyed reading other peoples, best wishes to everyone, have a good life, and thank you for all the advice people have gave me. Thanks again. Geordie Sam. Howay the effing lads.