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Discussion in 'Water Fed Pole Cleaning' started by Richard, Sep 23, 2012.

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  1. Richard

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    I got a call from a window cleaner that only ever used artificial flagged or flocked brushes; he recently tried my brushes, and now can’t understand why he ever used flocked brushes in the first place. I did explain the difference.

    Never use a flocked /flagged brush for window cleaning, you will lose all scrubbing ability on the tips of the brush filament, they also retain dirt a lot more dirt and they do from the moment they get soiled - ultimately they are slower to use – they will still clean, but its not worth the extra time it cost.

    I make window cleaning brushes and I will never make a flocked brush for wfp window cleaning. There is absolutely no need to do so, some of my Red Polyester Monofilament Brushes can have over 45,000 filaments and each filament tip still has the ability to scrub.

    Brush bristles or filaments clean along the length of the filament as well, not only the tip of the filament; that’s how flocked brushes get a window clean; it does most of its cleanings by using the filament beyond the few millimetres of the flocked/flagged tip.

    If you disagree (he agreed), just clean windows with the flagged part of the brush; see how long it takes you. I guarantee as soon as you come across anything that is remotely stubborn that is on the glass (which wont take very long, first job should do it) you will give up straight the way and use the better part of the brush, which is what you do anyway when you use a flocked or flagged brush. Just keep in mind that the tips of a flocked brush for window cleaning are pathetic for this type of cleaning

    Richard
     
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    Each person has different prefrences. My peronnel preference is a Viakn flagged brush. Some people in fact prefer the Vikan cill brush which they use each day.

    They have used other brushes but prefer the cill brush.
     
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    I find the flocked brushes have more scrubbing power,.. but they do hold onto the dirt more & that slows me sown. I defo prefer mono-filament brushes for everyday work.
     
  4. Richard

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    Hi doug,
    I know people still use flocked brushes; they are still for sold by wfp suppliers. The tips of the brush are pretty pointless for wfp window cleaning and the brushes overall take longer to clean - with any type of artificial filament -, even an absorbent filament. I recommend using a brush with finer monofilaments; at least you have a tip that is useful at the end of the brush.

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    They would have practically zero scrubbing if its a non absorbent filament with a flocked tip, nowhere near enough for wfp window cleaning. Below the flocked tip you would get the brush scrubbing.

    Richard
     
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    sorry but thats bull! if they dont work they wouldnt of designed them or sell 1000's of them!

    they do hold a little more dirt in them but if you keep your brush clean its no problem.
    when you use them right they work well.
     
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    It’s not bull; people buy them for window cleaning because there on sale from wfp suppliers and they probably want to try something different anyway. There also sold by people who don’t make the brushes and these type of brushes/filament are made for a different purpose, wiping more than scrubbing (for window cleaning). Flocked filaments in size are microns in diameter and if there non absorbent plastic they have little to zero scrubbing ability.

    Don’t take my word for it, it’s easy to test, try to remove something stubborn off the glass using only the flocked part of the brush. Or carry on believing what you have been led to believe, personally I don’t know one window cleaner that uses them.

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    I can’t listen to it, its nonsense, the first brush he didn’t even tell what type of filament. Then told you switch off!! if you use it already

    The next few seconds he said there are two types of brush – mono & flocked – what a load of nonsense.

    I’m not surprised it been put up by one of his toadies, as far as I am concerned you can keep buying them brushes smurf.

    Best of luck to you, (I’m not as blue as you.) (Joke)

    Richard
     
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    Just an observation in life. People can only sell what they've got to sell. If it's a kitchen, theirs is the best. If it's double glazing theirs is the best. If it's a car, theirs is the best. etc, etc,etc
     
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