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I tradded for 25 years and wfp is definitely better for 1st cleansOn first cleans trad is better
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absolutely fantastic!! what an awesome answer. you are so right. thanks for your comment!I trad and pole, I like them both.
I feel pole is superior in terms of overall clean, everything including frames, doors etc is very very clean.
I do like to trad though, and have just upgraded my dogeared wagtail of 4 years to a liquidator fliq which I'm having a little trouble with but its awesome around the edges.
Traditional feels more hands on and the results are instant, I like to soap the glass and feel more confident in the finish-I never have to wander about the work I have just completed with traditional work.
with wfp work I feel like I'm overdoing things for sure, especially on first cleans. I just never know when I have done enough! there's no real way to tell if the glass and frame you have just cleaned is going to dry clean?
I have been experiments of late with varying amounts of scrubbing/rinsing and going back to see the results and have confirmed I have been doing too much. I frequent the forums asking questions and never really get a definitive answer, only different opinions. So I feel the only way to know is through trial and error/research and development.
I think if I could find a way to trad the "ups" and clean the frames properly with a pole (tradpoling) then I could do away with all the wfp problems such as hoses, water purification, battery charging, carrying dangerous amounts of weight in the van, freezing water, freezing pipes, freezing hoses, customers that don't like wfp, leaks in the van, leaks through customers windows, expensive equipment, etc etc etc then I would love the simplicity of tradional only.
I make it sound like I hate wfp but I don't, it was my saviour really as I'm terrified of heights and never got used to ladders after 2 years in so wfp was most welcomed by me and I'm sure if I stopped using it before long I would miss certain aspects. Leaded windows are best done wfp as are multiple small panes of glass, I have one job that has 48 12" panes x 10 so 480 (ish) panes of glass that take me 12 minutes with the pole, cant imagine how long with squeegee! And I just love the way really filthy windows and frames just get washed away of dirt with wfp, I'm sure I couldn't get things that clean with a cloth squeegee and mop..
I suppose its neither/or really, they're both strings to the bow!
What a great answer. I'm just getting into wfp but I already I can see the pros and cons of it. I always intend to run it alongside trad, the best of both worlds and like you say another string to the bow!I trad and pole, I like them both.
I feel pole is superior in terms of overall clean, everything including frames, doors etc is very very clean.
I do like to trad though, and have just upgraded my dogeared wagtail of 4 years to a liquidator fliq which I'm having a little trouble with but its awesome around the edges.
Traditional feels more hands on and the results are instant, I like to soap the glass and feel more confident in the finish-I never have to wander about the work I have just completed with traditional work.
with wfp work I feel like I'm overdoing things for sure, especially on first cleans. I just never know when I have done enough! there's no real way to tell if the glass and frame you have just cleaned is going to dry clean?
I have been experiments of late with varying amounts of scrubbing/rinsing and going back to see the results and have confirmed I have been doing too much. I frequent the forums asking questions and never really get a definitive answer, only different opinions. So I feel the only way to know is through trial and error/research and development.
I think if I could find a way to trad the "ups" and clean the frames properly with a pole (tradpoling) then I could do away with all the wfp problems such as hoses, water purification, battery charging, carrying dangerous amounts of weight in the van, freezing water, freezing pipes, freezing hoses, customers that don't like wfp, leaks in the van, leaks through customers windows, expensive equipment, etc etc etc then I would love the simplicity of tradional only.
I make it sound like I hate wfp but I don't, it was my saviour really as I'm terrified of heights and never got used to ladders after 2 years in so wfp was most welcomed by me and I'm sure if I stopped using it before long I would miss certain aspects. Leaded windows are best done wfp as are multiple small panes of glass, I have one job that has 48 12" panes x 10 so 480 (ish) panes of glass that take me 12 minutes with the pole, cant imagine how long with squeegee! And I just love the way really filthy windows and frames just get washed away of dirt with wfp, I'm sure I couldn't get things that clean with a cloth squeegee and mop..
I suppose its neither/or really, they're both strings to the bow!
Long time tolish :1f603:
I went back to a trolley mate as i got fed up draling with hoses etc with the lack of access and loads of alleyways etc round herePretty much mate. Been working from a trolley which is a PITA but sorting out a van mount this week as fed up now.
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I'm in the process of sorting a new tank out to fill my drums from but this is my newest basic trolleyI've spent a lot of time thinking about it mate, and I reckon I'm going to have to use a trolley for quite a few of mine too. Just means I'm going to upgrade the trolley though as fed up of dragging the backpack on a set of little wheels. A trolley that uses a barrel strapped to it seems a lot better than refilling the backpack each time.
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