My first day wfp.

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  1. whostolemyhair

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    Hi, after 25 years trad ( im 41) i did my 1st day wfp today. To start, i went in at the deep end, a 1off clean! It took me 90 mins as I did each window 3 times. Hose wouldn't follow me instead preferring to get stuck on everything it could, hose to reel connection leaked etc etc etc (£20 house, underpriced but I explained I was changing to wfp so she was a guinea pig house so it would be done at a discount) When I went back to check it later in the day I could still see spider or fly muck or whatever those 10mm x 5mm patches of muck are. I'm using a gardiners dual trim sill brush (seem to have left half the bristles stuck in vents etc) which came well recommended. A boars hair brush may be better for my changeover from trad cleans from what ive read on here, anyone know where i can get one? I then did an 80 window bungalow care home. I felt more confident with this as I did it every 5 weeks trad and do the frames well each time. I went over each window 3 times, up n down side to side up n down and was pleased with the way they were looking until I had finished the whole lot then went back to the start to have a look at the dry windows. I found a lot of spot runs a few inches wide right down the windows. They had come from vents above the windows which I had given a really good clean but obviously not as good as I'd thought. I think I'm going to find vents a problem as I've a lot of houses with them and can't really miss them as windows must look bad with mucky vent areas and the rest of the window clean. What do you guys do with vents?
    All in all it was a fairly good start, not as good results as I would have liked but I can see how good it could or will be when I get into it. Worked 9 till 2 as that was all the wfp work I had to do today. I earned the same as I would of trad which I thought was very good considering it was my 1st go and I saw that it would definitely be a lot quicker than trad after a couple of cleans. Used 400l of water though which was a lot more than I thought I would. I was thinking my flow was fairly slow but obviously not. Good job I didn't have anymore work to do as I only have a 450l tank!
    I'm a wfpoler...woohoo!! Now where's some scummy doley tradders to look down on! (o8
     
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  2. badbusdriver

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    Well done pal, sounds like you have had a frustrating day, but it will get easier, and faster!.
    You have hit the nail on the head regarding vents, they are a real problem when you 1st start, esp with initial clean.
    My method if the windows are very dirty is to work on 'sections, which would be all the windows on the top floor at the back, then the sides, then the front, then repeat downstairs. 1st, spray water all over the windows in the 1st section. 2nd, give each window in the section a good brush, paying particular attention to the top of the frame. 3rd, give another brush followed by a good rinse down. Repeat on each section. It is time consuming, but it will save time in the long run giving them a really good clean 1st.
    On your existing customers which you have done trad, you could do an abbreviated version, just concentrating on the tops of the frames to get the vents rinsed out. Once they have been done, your subsequent cleans will keep the dirt from builing up in them, so will be much faster.
    I currently use a 500l system myself and have been working wfp only since june '09, most of the wfp guys on here use smaller systems than that, so you should manage fine with 450l once you have got used to it. :)
     
  3. chip

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    i found the change tough, sleepless ***hts (that takes some doing with me! ) but it gets better. with vents, if you clean them everytime you'll be ok, it's just that first one can be a mare, but what i've found, is when you clean around a vent try not to squirt water up it, can be done by turning off the flow, but i have jets slightly angling down.
    it's funny, but you just get a feel for it, i know when i started seemed to spend forever on a window and rinsed like mad and still dried bad, can now do a 1st clean much faster, less water better result! no can figure!
     
  4. simon

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    thats all good advice mate & well done, my first sill brush was a gardiners dual trim & i thought it was excellent after vikan & brodex brushes but i've just got a gardiners flat trim stiff bristle one & i find it much better especially for 1st cleans
     
  5. This method has helped me loads with first time cleans. As BBD said structure the order you clean the windows, on first time cleans and maybe for the next time after depending on how dirty they are, concentrate on the top frame and the top 4" of the glass for each window. Clean the rest of the frame or glass if it's particularly dirty but mainly concentrate on the top frame and top 4" of glass. Once you have done all the windows go back to the first one which hopefully should be dry, if not wait till it's dry. Place your brush on the bottom of the pane on either corner ensuring your brush is bent towards the floor and then clean the glass and the rest of the frame making sure you do not touch the top frame or the 4" of glass that should be clean. This way you should be 100% certain of no spotting or drips. After the second time you should be able to just clean them the normal way. It's the long way round but I've never had a complaint yet. I hope this helps. J
     
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    Good job buddy, it's hard when you first start it but you will soon get into it and it will become alot clearer and easier to use. First cleans are a pain (depending on how dirty the property is) but the second clean should leave it spotless! The Gardiners Dual Trim brush is amazing, I wouldn't swap it for the world.

    James.
     
  7. whostolemyhair

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    Thanks for that, good tips which I will use, appreciated.
     
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