2 Man setup query

[Pure Clean]

Hi Guys!

I am looking to upgrade to a 2 man setup and I have a few queries.

I have searched the forum for help but still need some clarification.

As far as I can tell, the best setup is to have 2 pumps, 2 flow controllers 2 hose reels and 2 sets of resin vessels.

I also need a splitter. I was recommended this one from cleaning spot: http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Brass-multi-function-manifold-BMFM.html#SID=63

The other parts are below:

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/11L-Vessel-complete-empty-PVME.html#SID=29

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/100psi-Shurflo-Pump---Varistream---Strainer---Fittings-Package-PACK.html#SID=12

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Metal-hose-reel-HMR2.html#SID=247

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/100m-Microbore-Reinforced-hose-11mm-x-6mm-Y6100.html#SID=15

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Deluxe-brass-waterstop-connector-with-rubber-RBWC.html#SID=63

Would you recommend these parts or is there something better or cheaper.

Where is the best place to split the main hose?

Do I need a second leisure battery?

Am I missing anything?

A step by step guide would be helpful but I doubt there is one.

Thanks in advance.

 

[spruce]

Hi Guys!

I am looking to upgrade to a 2 man setup and I have a few queries.

I have searched the forum for help but still need some clarification.

As far as I can tell, the best setup is to have 2 pumps, 2 flow controllers 2 hose reels and 2 sets of resin vessels.

I also need a splitter. I was recommended this one from cleaning spot: http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Brass-multi-function-manifold-BMFM.html#SID=63

The other parts are below:

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/11L-Vessel-complete-empty-PVME.html#SID=29

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/100psi-Shurflo-Pump---Varistream---Strainer---Fittings-Package-PACK.html#SID=12

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Metal-hose-reel-HMR2.html#SID=247

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/100m-Microbore-Reinforced-hose-11mm-x-6mm-Y6100.html#SID=15

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Deluxe-brass-waterstop-connector-with-rubber-RBWC.html#SID=63

Would you recommend these parts or is there something better or cheaper.

Where is the best place to split the main hose?

Do I need a second leisure battery?

Am I missing anything?

A step by step guide would be helpful but I doubt there is one.

Thanks in advance.

Here's my old van. The current van uses the same pipework as I transferred everything to the new van.

We produce water in the garage and store it in an IBC tank. The water goes through the membrane and then through the di vessel before going into storage. We then transfer water to the van's tanks at 0ppm. This saves having to have di vessels in each of the vans.

It's worked like this since 2006/7.

So instead of the expensive Hozelok splitter, I have used cheap 1/2" male barb t pieces which I bought at B&Q.

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[Pjj]

Not sure why you want a splitter ?? One pump per hose so where do you want to split it ? Just do it the same as if it was a one man system 

 

[Action Window Cleaning]

You need the splitter when water leaves the tank to feed both pumps.


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[Pure Clean]

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Here's my old van. The current van uses the same pipework as I transferred everything to the new van.

We produce water in the garage and store it in an IBC tank. The water goes through the membrane and then through the di vessel before going into storage. We then transfer water to the van's tanks at 0ppm. This saves having to have di vessels in each of the vans.

It's worked like this since 2006/7.

So instead of the expensive Hozelok splitter, I have used cheap 1/2" male barb t pieces which I bought at B&Q.

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Thanks Spruce. It looks good. Do you have both pumps coming off the one battery?

I still need to know the best place to add the splitter. Would it be straight after my non return valve which is about a foot after the main tap coming out the tank?

I also need to be sure what parts to get. Some clarification would be helpful please.

 

[spruce]

Thanks Spruce. It looks good. Do you have both pumps coming off the one battery?

I still need to know the best place to add the splitter. Would it be straight after my non return valve which is about a foot after the main tap coming out the tank?

I also need to be sure what parts to get. Some clarification would be helpful please.

1 of these is what you need

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tee-Hose-Joiner-Plastic-Barbed-T-Bar-Connector-Pipe-Fitting-Air-Line-Water-WHITE-/140824638852?var=&hash=item20c9cd7584:m:mkP9bj6jzE3FPcdj61p2Flg

You have a choice of T for either 12mm or 13mm id hose. It depends what hose you are using.

Mine is secured with O clips. The size depends on your hose.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DOUBLE-EAR-CLAMP-O-CLIPS-AIR-SILICONE-FUEL-HOSE-PIPE-END-SIDE-CLOSING-PINCERS-/200963346839?var=&hash=item2eca595197:m:mX1LBhs5zI7P4HC3GkYFh-A

All you are doing is joining another hose into your existing hose. I once read that it works better if both lengths of hose from the T piece are of equal length to each pump. The T piece would be after your non return valve (tank outlet, non return valve, T piece, pumps.)

I have a single 110 amp leisure battery. 2 pumps are fine working from that. But you will need to bench charge it every night. A local pal of mine has a twin operator system running off a single 85amph battery. He has 2 actually, a leisure and a starter battery. He leaves 1 at home on charge and takes the other, swapping them over each morning. He's been doing this for years now. His batteries last about 3 years, give or take a couple of months.

Remember, each standard wfp van mount pump will use about 4.5 amps an hour when used with a standard Varistream or Spring controller. We believe our pump run about 50% of the time doing residential work, so in our case working, working 8 hours we estimate a current draw of +- 18 amps. So a fully charged 110 amph leisure battery will have 92 amps left in it at the end of the day with a single operator. 2 operators will draw approx 36 amps leaving 74 amps in the battery. This is why it needs to be charged each night.

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[Pure Clean]

Thanks once again Spruce. You have been very helpful.