Rip Another One Bites The Dust

Discussion in 'Chit Chat & Introductions' started by crystalview, Dec 21, 2012.

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  2. crystalview

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    Very sad.

    It can happen so quickly.

    Both guys died, it seems from the head injuries sustained. Is there a case maybe, for some sort of safety helmet for working on ladders??

    I don't know of any particular solution, but this is a window cleaning forum. Designed to discuss serious and important issues related to our working environment. It's not just a case of bringing home the money, but also just about getting home safe and in one piece.

    Can we, please, not have any condescending remarks like "that's why I don't use ladders" etc.
     
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    Someone else might Smurf but I'll leave it where it is, I think it's more of a chat topic.

    Very sad though as always and yes I think helmets are a good idea although second one there just shows that the equipment you're using ie your ladder should be in good condition first and foremost.
     
  6. Vince Green

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    But thats just the point, it is precisely why I don't use ladders. These accidents have been happening for years but have not been reported nationally because there were not any forums like this to spread the information wider that the local papers.

    Its happened on my patch twice that I know of, I now clean the house where one man fell, apparantly getting back onto a ladder from a flat roof extension. Another called Gary I never knew but he broke his leg very badly so I'm told.

    Many years ago I used to work with a man called John, his son was a junior footballer and a bit of a rising star. John as proud dad used to take him all over the place to play. Years later I heard the son was killed falling off a ladder while helping a mate paint a house.

    These things do happen, when these things have been debated on "other forums" there has always been a lot of "nobody's telling me what to do" attitude which I have never really understood
     
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    Think most have experienced a near miss, actually fallen from a ladder or know ppl that have. I still do ladder work and as long as ppl follow simple rules on ladder safety, use best practice and fit safety devices to help stabilise the ladder then the risk is minimised.

    And yes wearing head proctection I think is a good idea

    Ladders do not kill but complacency can.
     
  8. All Round Cleaning

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    This is the sort of thing that we should show to customers when they moan about the cost of window cleaning and the changing to wfp .

    I know people die in various trades year in year out but this day in age these accidents are preventable .
    I come from a heavy engineering , fabrication , welding industry and I can say that in the engineering industry especially
    Big companies that I have worked for H&S is not to be sniffed at .
    The last company I was at there was zero tolerance it was do it by the book or not at all .
    No ladders at all only mobile work platforms and hop ups .

    Anyways that's enough rambling on .
     
  9. Gmeister

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    I agree I think customers should be shown these type of news feeds I wonder how it would go down I might just try it...
     
  10. Vince Green

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    When the ladders debate started a few years ago it caused furious arguments on CIU (which was the forum I was on then) and I never could see why. If it really was simply a matter of the cost to go to wfp then maybe. But wfp is actually quicker and less tiring so you earn money quicker. Plus many houses can't be done trad.

    Helmets are not going to save you in all falls, maybe not even many falls, and there are worse things than getting killed believe me.
     
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