This weekend I was speaking to a windy roughly 20mins away from me. As normal chat goes spoke about tips business. but this stuck in my mind: I asked about how things are going for him, rounds, custies etc etc. He said hes packing it in, I asked why.... He said there are to many Windys in this area, said theres people doing it for nothing nower days. I ask if he had been recruiting custies on new ground(first thing I have learnt on here is work aint gonna come to you, you gotta go get it). I asked then asked about canvassings and why dont he do it? he replied with theres no point far to many windys or people just dont want there windows cleaning, he then said do you clean your own windows, I then said course i dont, my wife does it lol! but on a serious note I said to behonest I dont, but will be cleaning my own soon. I asked about why not get into other lines of work with the window cleaning, like cleaning Solar panels? gutter hoovering & cleaning? conservatories? he said: Solar Panels no point the companys who fit them send there own cleaners around a few times a year, gutter hoovering and cleaning not really heard of, and conserv's said that might be a good idea if he was staying in the business, I ask are you packing it all up? he said yeah he thinks so, just money is never a defo, the winters are too long, which i replied try going 6months in the artic circle in Norway them Nights/winters are long! all in all this guy had loas all hope, he had the WFP, a nice van, but just lost all motivation. I just think to myself, we live 30-40mins from west of London. 35-45mins away is Slough, Stains, Reading, Guildford etc etc... big towns and cities with buildings going up everywhere how can it possiblie be this bad??? I asked about buying his kit and he said hes already got someone lined up, so was this bloke feeding me shite? or was he rubbish at his job, thats why he dont have as much work as he wants? I got to admit sometimes i get down hearted, me thinking what if this/that and the other, but i try not tho think that in all honesty!? but i guess if you never try i guess you never know? do you guys get like this bloke, cos in all honest if i looked and sounded like this he might be in a bad way? but if things are that bad, I would get me shoes on, iron the trousers get the company T-shirt on, print leaflets and get my ass out there canvassing and looking for work!!!! What do you guys say about this whole talk?