Tank Fitting Advice please???

[Poles Apart]

Right I've got a Citroen Berlingo Multispace with 595 kilos max payload, I only use backpacks but I'm fed up of filling and emptying 25L containers so want to fit a tank (prob 210 Litre upright) in the rear of the vehicle then fill up using a bilge pump. Now I don't know what I'm doing but my plan is to secure it behind the rear passenger seats using the seats as a safety baulkhead then secure it through the seat securing brackets and floor lugs with heavy duty ratchet straps is this okay guys? Thanks, oh I'll paint the floor with that rubberised wot dya call it as well.

 

[Poles Apart]

Protektakote

 

[staneland01]

I've just done a setup on my van and my fathers. We used the cleaning warehouse.

They sell retaining frames for tanks at under £150 which is a bargain! Mines a 500 and my father has a 350 tank. You would need to bolt it to the van base, then you can easily bolt di vessels to it and build shelving above it using channel nuts that slot into the steel unistrut.

We got the protectakote from them aswell at a competitive price.

I wouldn't feel safe strapping 200kg to my seats because under a crash that equates to a lot of pain.

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[peter rogers]

go 300 tank and a retaining frame pay a mecanic 50 quid to fit it and safe as 300 tank plus frame plus water be weighing in at 360 roughly plus u 100kg theres 460 u still got weight space /emoticons/biggrin.png

 

[dredge3]

Good straps will hold it fine. Not sure if your seats will. I have done it with my transit, but they are more solid. You can still feel it under heavy breaking. A bulk head is a better idea

 

[Poles Apart]

Thanks for the advice, would prefer straps though it doubles up as a family vehicle and is used for camping holidays so tank needs to be removed easily.

 

[Jimroot]

Sounds like a smaller tank would be safer Poles apart

 

[Poles Apart]

Sounds like a smaller tank would be safer Poles apart

I think 210 litre is plenty as I don't use that much and if it's a vertical tank it gives me the versatility to add some containers for busy days.

 

[Poles Apart]

I think with the tank up against the back seat and held down with ratchet straps it's not going anywhere, don't know weather a flat tank or vertical tank is safer, if it was flat I'd go bigger maybe 300?

 

[Jimroot]

My guess would be a baffled flat would exert less forward inertia as there would be less mass per section in the forward plane. I imagine safe driving is important too in these considerations

I'm going to get a small upright and strap it too

 

[dredge3]

Yes flat is safer.

Downside. Harder to get all the water out.

Takes up more space

 

[Pure Clean]

I've just done a setup on my van and my fathers. We used the cleaning warehouse.They sell retaining frames for tanks at under £150 which is a bargain! Mines a 500 and my father has a 350 tank. You would need to bolt it to the van base, then you can easily bolt di vessels to it and build shelving above it using channel nuts that slot into the steel unistrut.

We got the protectakote from them aswell at a competitive price.

I wouldn't feel safe strapping 200kg to my seats because under a crash that equates to a lot of pain.

I really like the look of your van setup staneland01. In particular, the pole hoops and your shelving.

I could do with a better look though as I will be setting up my new van next week.

Is it possible for you to take more pictures all around the back of your van and upload them to this post?

Thanks.

 

[heyoh]

Very nice setup there @staneland01 :thumbsup:

 

[spruce]

Jeff Brimble used a Multispace for years.

http://www.electricwindowcleaner.com/contac.htm

He will always help with advice.

 

[staneland01]

Sure thing @Steven i will pop some pics on later

 

[Pure Clean]

Thanks staneland01, much appreciated.

 

[staneland01]

View attachment 4659 Hi @Steven i have uploaded a load of pics of my setup. The pole supports are ro clamps and have been secured with threaded rod and nut plates. They are just cabble tied up on the struts at the moment because it was a bit of a nightmare trying to put rivnuts above my head. Cabble ties keep them solid though!

I have a tub of supplies and my toolbox on top of the tank with a bit of wood to stop them slidding off. I got a 3m length of stainless cable tray which I have wrapped around my retaining frame. Pump bolted really easy onto that, looks smarter than ply I think aswell.

The cable tray I had left I used for two shelves bases. I edged with batening and then painted with spare Protectakote I had left. The brackets are heavy duty ones from homebase @£6 each but proper solid.

Any info when you do your setup let me know

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[staneland01]

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[Pure Clean]

Thanks very much staneland01, these photos and info are very helpful for my setup. I get my new van tomorrow and will be setting things up next week so if I have any questions I will let you know.

There is one question I do have right now and that is the actual fitting of the tank. I have bought a 650L tank from Pure freedom and a frame from the cleaning warehouse.

I understand that this needs to be bolted down to the chassis but I am a little bit apprehensive about doing this. I do have a friend who is an engineer who will help me but I would like to know the best way to go about this.

My new van is a Peugeot expert 2.0 HDI 120.

Thanks in advance.

 

[staneland01]

Hi @Steven. I took my van down to my local mechanics who lined it up right and drilled the holes for me (£50) then I protectakoted the back. The day after I put the frame in and bolted it down (2 man job). The mechanics could only drill straight through with three of the holes so they put rivnuts for the other 3.

If your doing it yourself just make sure you locate the fuel tank and don't drill through anything

 

[Pure Clean]

Thanks once again for your help staneland01. I will proceed with caution.